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For the past couple of days I cannot get the program grid to show up using either Dishonline or Dish Remote Access. Is it broken again, or is it just my system?
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isaacmorseMI
Not looking too good. Here is a traceroute and a ping.

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Isaac>tracert dishonline.com

Tracing route to dishonline.com [174.129.23.207]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 6 ms 5 ms 12 ms 96.101.16.1
2 6 ms 9 ms 5 ms ge-2-40-ur01.lawton.mi.michigan.comcast.net [69.
139.240.221]
3 13 ms 15 ms 14 ms te-0-3-0-3-ar01.taylor.mi.michigan.comcast.net [
68.85.222.10]
4 17 ms 18 ms 15 ms pos-0-6-0-0-ar01.pontiac.mi.michigan.comcast.net
[68.85.222.38]
5 27 ms 28 ms 27 ms pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net [6
8.86.90.221]
6 25 ms 26 ms 72 ms xe-9-3-0.edge1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.71.248.21]

7 25 ms 28 ms 26 ms vlan52.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.138.190]
8 40 ms 32 ms 33 ms ae-6-6.ebr2.Washington12.Level3.net [4.69.148.14
5]
9 34 ms 35 ms 34 ms ae-5-5.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.143.221
]
10 33 ms 39 ms 35 ms ae-62-62.csw1.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.134.1
46]
11 38 ms 35 ms 35 ms ae-1-60.edge1.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.149.1
3]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms 216.182.224.53
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Isaac>

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Isaac>ping dishonline.com

Pinging dishonline.com [174.129.23.207] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 174.129.23.207:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\Users\Isaac>
J
Can't see what's on my DVR, even though it shows a status of "online". Was going to do a little housecleaning, but I guess it can wait.

edit: My DVR contents show up normally in DRA.
TG2
TG2
Not looking too good. Here is a traceroute and a ping.
C:\Users\Isaac>tracert dishonline.com

Tracing route to dishonline.com [174.129.23.207]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
C:\Users\Isaac>

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Isaac>ping dishonline.com

Pinging dishonline.com [174.129.23.207] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 174.129.23.207:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\Users\Isaac>
Unfortunately .. its not that simple. Start by using the full host name ... www.dishonline.com

C:\Documents and Settings\TG2>tracert www.dishonline.com

Tracing route to a743.b.akamai.net [157.238.91.49]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

Akamai is a front end technology for load balancing, redirection, etc.

*after* getting the initial data information and streams .. you may be on any one of a few servers..

Dish Remote Access best showed this because when you had your web page in front of you, you would see dishXX.sling.com in the URL .. the XX would be one of 1~16 (at last check 16 was the highest responding host)

There's a free tool out there called Active Ports (microsoft has TCP View with part of the PSTools/Sysinternals they took over) ... Active ports does as the name suggests shows you active TCP/UDP ports, the programs they are assigned to, the IP's connected with, etc.

After the initial web hits and redirections.. you get content from multiple locations, your DVR, Amazon, data gets reported back and forth to everything from msg.sling.com to some IP that resolves into Melita.com (foreign cable/iptv stuff?) I suspect if I watched long enough I'd also see the streams that id hulu and other content aggregation providers.

So ... while the initial "dishonline.com" gets you an ip .... its not definitive, nor is that the place you're going to go or get communication back from. Sometimes a redirector can flub.. and you'd be typing dishonline.com ... not getting anything.. but manually putting the www. in front of it you'd get there..

All of this points back to the problem... that with Dish Online ... there's not a good hard resource to track or follow as to whether it should be working or not..


the connection to actually *watch* something doesn't go the same way as Dish Remote Access does.. its reporting back to other odd ip's in different locations, and intermittently to msg.sling.com...


EDIT: I would also recommend .. that if your real intent is to watch live tv or something from your DVR .. you would be much better off, using Dish Remote Access instead of Dish Online.

Lately the divide between the two is even worse. With DRA .. you see the authentication, etc.. and within 20 to 30 seconds you have audio/video and if a DVR'd item, usually within 10 seconds of the actual audio/video, you have your dvr item playing (before then, you are connected to the Sling, but it shows the last set live tv station your TV2 was on)

With Dish Online ... since this past week, I'm noticing ... Audio starts within 10 seconds.. then I get this "loading video" whirly bob thing ... all the while the audio is going ... 30 seconds passes and *maybe* at that time the video starts .... then 10 to 30 seconds later (if you were originally coming to watch a DVR'd item) then your dvr'd item starts.

That can be nearly TWICE as long as DRA takes..

DishOnline = _FAIL_
TG2
TG2
Can't see what's on my DVR, even though it shows a status of "online". Was going to do a little housecleaning, but I guess it can wait.

edit: My DVR contents show up normally in DRA.
When ever you have this problem.. close down all other browser windows .. log into Dish Online .. Log OUT of dish online .. then re-log in .... after logged back in, go to "View DVR" if contents still haven't loaded ... hit refresh... wait.. .. if needed, hit it a second time wait.. and a third time if needed. I've never needed to go beyond 3 refreshes after logging out and back in. It seems the "Logout" actually helps the account get back to basics again (ie. re-reading the DVR's contents). If logout/login refresh/refresh/refresh doesn't work.. make sure you submit the problem via the "report problem" / "Feedback" links at the bottom of most pagets.
Mike_H
They have some web issues for sure. Disholine working fine right now. Though when I say fine, I mean I can watch a show. Mine says loading dvr info constantly never changing, been like that forever.
TG2
TG2
They just had another major hick-up ... the amazonian cloud wasn't processing logons..


C:\Documents and Settings\TG2>nslookup secure.dishonline.com
Server: cdns01.comcast.net
Address: 75.75.75.75

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: prod-secure-1111791664.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com
Address: 50.16.247.61
Aliases: secure.dishonline.com


Gateway Timeout

The proxy server did not receive a timely response from the upstream server. Reference #1.2593xxxx.xxxxxxxxxx138.22c2aad3


EDIT: well.. I got in.. and then tried to navigate to the "EPIX" network and got another gateway timeout ... these gateways, in case anyone is wondering aren't gateways in the user home, its gateway to the content or content provider.

See this is the other problem with having DishOnline .... once they do away with Dish Remote Access ... users would be completely stuck with no access what so ever, simply because dish is making dishonline a central failure point.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
Foxbat
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.
Bobby
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.
Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.
Bobby
Regular$5.839​
Premium$6.299​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?
Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Crazy Little Thing Called Love - Queen
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Where's My Thing? - Rush
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Good Golly, Miss Molly - Little Richard
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· posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.
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Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.
navychop
Nature will develop better idiots.
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Nature will develop better idiots.
God help us.
Scott Greczkowski
I guess this is what the downtime was about.

IMG_0607.webp
Scott Greczkowski
Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share
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Jimbo
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

Walmart isn't the only one ...
Juan
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price
harshness
Walmart isn't the only one ...
I've been seeing this more and more on Amazon. Sometimes it seems there is no way they could have arrived at the number.

What rankles me even more is Costco changing units of measure between similar products, so you have to convert them to compare prices.
Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
​
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
​
Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
​
Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
264​
2​
1449​
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SD mpeg4​
145​
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194​
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SD mpeg2​
433​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
38​
-2​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.
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I don't get my hopes up for anything with Travolta these days.