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I posted a similar thread over in the 4DTV forum, but I thought I might get more answers in the general FTA forum. I found a DSR 905 on E-Bay that I am looking at. Can it be used on the same dish as say, a Openbox S9 or Manhattan 1933? I have ordered a DMX741 C/Ku LNBF and I am going to use a GBox as the positioner. How will I go about hooking everything up so that the FTA receiver will move the dish with the GBox and the 4DTV will still get a signal when I want to watch something on it? Thanks in advance for your help.
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just my opinion
There are two approaches.
1. daisy chain the lnb signal through both receivers
2. use a power-passing splitter to feed both receivers
Either way, you really need to power off the unused receiver.
With method 1, the daisy chain, some members have reported troubles, confusion, problems, or failure to work properly.
I suspect that's because all receivers don't operate the same way when used in this manner.
Since I don't want to debug such a problem, I choose to avoid it.
Method 2 has been chosen.
You need a two-way, dual power passing splitter.
That means either receiver can power the LNBF.
The diodes protect both receivers, preventing current flow from one back through the other.
The 905, and all the 4Dtv family are unable to send diseqc or 22khz to select an LNBF.
(I doubt the 410 can, either)
There is no pay service on Ku, so the 905 needs to just default to the C-band LNBF.
But, if you want to reliably select the C-band or Ku-band LNB for the FTA receiver, you'll need a 22khz switch.
So, you use the following:
- 905 receiver, one input (may need to set to voltage control, and maybe reverse polarity?)
- FTA receiver, one input
- dual band LNBF, output for C-band, output for Ku-band
- dual power-passing splitter (three terminals, two in, one output)
- 22khz switch which only powers the selected input (not an eCoda, to the best of my knowledge)
Hook the C-lnb signal to the common splitter input
- one output of the splitter to the 905
- other output of the splitter to the OFF input of the 22khz switch
Hook the Ku-lnb signal to the ON input of the 22khz switch
- Off input of the switch to the splitter output, as above
- output of the 22khz switch to the FTA receiver
If the FTA receiver is powered off (OR on with the Ku LNB selected), then the 905 has complete control of the C-band LNB.
For the FTA receiver to control the C-band LNB, the 905 must be off, AND the FTA receiver turns off the 22khz tone.
For the FTA receiver to control the Ku-band LNB, the 905 can be on or off, and the FTA receiver must turn on the 22khz tone.
Sorry I didn't supply a picture , but it really is very simple.
Of course, you may not want to bother with the 22khz switch, and the flexibility it provides.
(which is: letting your FTA receiver run on Ku while the 905 runs on C-band)
There are two approaches.
1. daisy chain the lnb signal through both receivers
2. use a power-passing splitter to feed both receivers
Either way, you really need to power off the unused receiver.
With method 1, the daisy chain, some members have reported troubles, confusion, problems, or failure to work properly.
I suspect that's because all receivers don't operate the same way when used in this manner.
Since I don't want to debug such a problem, I choose to avoid it.
Method 2 has been chosen.
You need a two-way, dual power passing splitter.
That means either receiver can power the LNBF.
The diodes protect both receivers, preventing current flow from one back through the other.
The 905, and all the 4Dtv family are unable to send diseqc or 22khz to select an LNBF.
(I doubt the 410 can, either)
There is no pay service on Ku, so the 905 needs to just default to the C-band LNBF.
But, if you want to reliably select the C-band or Ku-band LNB for the FTA receiver, you'll need a 22khz switch.
So, you use the following:
- 905 receiver, one input (may need to set to voltage control, and maybe reverse polarity?)
- FTA receiver, one input
- dual band LNBF, output for C-band, output for Ku-band
- dual power-passing splitter (three terminals, two in, one output)
- 22khz switch which only powers the selected input (not an eCoda, to the best of my knowledge)
Hook the C-lnb signal to the common splitter input
- one output of the splitter to the 905
- other output of the splitter to the OFF input of the 22khz switch
Hook the Ku-lnb signal to the ON input of the 22khz switch
- Off input of the switch to the splitter output, as above
- output of the 22khz switch to the FTA receiver
If the FTA receiver is powered off (OR on with the Ku LNB selected), then the 905 has complete control of the C-band LNB.
For the FTA receiver to control the C-band LNB, the 905 must be off, AND the FTA receiver turns off the 22khz tone.
For the FTA receiver to control the Ku-band LNB, the 905 can be on or off, and the FTA receiver must turn on the 22khz tone.
Sorry I didn't supply a picture , but it really is very simple.
Of course, you may not want to bother with the 22khz switch, and the flexibility it provides.
(which is: letting your FTA receiver run on Ku while the 905 runs on C-band)
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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Ok, I'm bored .... actually - to be more precise - I'm bored of eating the same rotation of 9 or 10 meals that are currently my "go-to" meals. My wife works the long hours - I work from home as and when i feel like it ... which means i generally do most of the cooking ... and so by default - i also make out the shopping list ...
We cook at home 5 or even 6 nights a week - but we always seem to fall back on the same old tried and tested "quick and easy but tastes ok" meals. Week in week out.
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Now it's not that I'm not adventurous in the kitchen ... I'll try anything once or twice ... but we all do it. Unless your name is Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray .. we all eventually fall back on our 8-10 favorite "meals"
So i thought - if we shared some of our own go-to meals with each other ... we might be able to add a few "new" ones to our own arsenal of meals.
So again - I ask you ...
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Please give me something new to add to my rotation ... its our weekly shop tomorrow - so i want to pull together a few idea's and try and eat a meal each day next week that I've never had before .. or at least something that is not on my current "go-to" meal plan.
What meal do you always seem to fall back on in your house ? Maybe its something that I've never tried or not had in a while. I need inspiration !! I've got a blank shopping list in front of me - and nothing sounds good .. HELP !
We cook at home 5 or even 6 nights a week - but we always seem to fall back on the same old tried and tested "quick and easy but tastes ok" meals. Week in week out.
Pot Roast - mash and Peas.
Spaghetti
Chicken Pasta in cheese sauce.
Curry & rice
(these are some of mine)
Now it's not that I'm not adventurous in the kitchen ... I'll try anything once or twice ... but we all do it. Unless your name is Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray .. we all eventually fall back on our 8-10 favorite "meals"
So i thought - if we shared some of our own go-to meals with each other ... we might be able to add a few "new" ones to our own arsenal of meals.
So again - I ask you ...
What's for dinner tonight ?
Please give me something new to add to my rotation ... its our weekly shop tomorrow - so i want to pull together a few idea's and try and eat a meal each day next week that I've never had before .. or at least something that is not on my current "go-to" meal plan.
What meal do you always seem to fall back on in your house ? Maybe its something that I've never tried or not had in a while. I need inspiration !! I've got a blank shopping list in front of me - and nothing sounds good .. HELP !
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Smoked some salmon on the grill while enjoying some Blue Moon beer. Kinda cool tonight so I fired up the heaters. Here in FL, we fire up heaters once the temps get below 60 
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As for the salmon, I seared them first, then flipped them off to the side not over the coals and brushed on some lemon pepper marinade followed by some salmon seasoning. Threw some hickory chips on the coals and then closed the vents to about 10% airflow. Yum.
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America’s Fastest-Growing EV State Isn’t California—Not by a Long Shot
New data shows electric vehicle adoption is increasingly driven by state policies, electricity prices and charging access—not federal incentives
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The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
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It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll callThey ought to have fun with this…