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Since I have moved, I have not had a satellite dish to play with, so I turned my hobbies to SW and getting what TV I can get "free" of course. 
I put up my new postage stamp size OTA antenna
for receiving all the local channels in HD. It's not very big, and I am 25 -30 miles away from the towers, but it has a built in amplifier, and does an outstanding job for me.
I hooked that up the next morning after I moved in, and got my TVs all hooked up to it, and hooked up my computers and my original HDHomerun tuner for recording that I have always used.
Within a week I had cable internet installed, and being one of this "family" of like minded people, I just had to see what was available for free. Needless to say, it was worthwhile.
So I began thinking about a second HDHomerun just for recording "free" channels. I found one on Craig's list for $40.00, so I picked it up.
Got it hooked up to the HDHomerun, and then the fun started. There was very little help on the internet for getting clear QAM channels on the HDHR. I already know how to use DVBViewer on both satellite, and for OTA, and that is my program of choice for recording. So, I started experimenting.
I posted this at the DVBViewer forums, and on the Silicondust forums.
I'll copy from there, and then the tweaked improvements on the settings.
First post with some success:
Second Post with preliminary settings:
Final post with tweaked settings:
I had not changed my program from version 4.0 on my other computers simply because I had such a hard time making it work originally, and didn't want to fix something that wasn't broken.
The newer version of DVBViewer is very nice, and I have already switched one of the other computers over to the new version. I will follow up with the final computer today or tomorrow.
I just wanted to let you all know that I am still in the FTA hobby in one form or the other.
I put up my new postage stamp size OTA antenna
for receiving all the local channels in HD. It's not very big, and I am 25 -30 miles away from the towers, but it has a built in amplifier, and does an outstanding job for me.
I hooked that up the next morning after I moved in, and got my TVs all hooked up to it, and hooked up my computers and my original HDHomerun tuner for recording that I have always used.
Within a week I had cable internet installed, and being one of this "family" of like minded people, I just had to see what was available for free. Needless to say, it was worthwhile.
So I began thinking about a second HDHomerun just for recording "free" channels. I found one on Craig's list for $40.00, so I picked it up.
Got it hooked up to the HDHomerun, and then the fun started. There was very little help on the internet for getting clear QAM channels on the HDHR. I already know how to use DVBViewer on both satellite, and for OTA, and that is my program of choice for recording. So, I started experimenting.
I posted this at the DVBViewer forums, and on the Silicondust forums.
I'll copy from there, and then the tweaked improvements on the settings.
First post with some success:
Second Post with preliminary settings:
I got it to work finally.:
If anyone is interested, it is kind of a process to make it work. At least it was for me.
1. The setup in the HDHomerun. Part of that entails a registry setting.
2. Backup your registry, close all open programs, open regedit, navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Silicondust\HDHomeRun\Tuners\XXXXXXXX and set the BDAPIDFilter entry to "Enabled" (no quotes, case sensitive). Repeat for the -1 tuner. I got that off the silicon dust forums.
3. To get the normal ATSC OTA channels to come in, you need to set the main application in the HDHomerun setup to ATSC Remap and scan in you channels there.
4. Set the tuner in DVBViewer options/hardware to only have two boxes ticked, and they are the has CI module, and open whole transponder.
5. Scan in your OTA channels inside of DVBViewer using ATSC and the ATSC transponder list.
6. Go back into the HDHomerun setup, and change the main application to ATSC QAM remap.
7. Go into DVBViewer, and set the tuner assigned to your QAM HDHR tuner as preferred, and tick the two boxes as above.
8. Scan in the channels within DVBViewer using ATSC as the source, and using the ATSC Cable Std.
At that point, everything should work.
I tried having both tuners set to normal, and it would switch back and forth, but the switch was slow, and sometimes the video wouldn't come in.
So what I am doing for now, is if I want to watch OTA, I go into the options/hardware settings, and set that tuner as preferred, and the others to "Do Not Use".
If I want to watch cable, I go back into the options/hardware, and set that tuner as preferred.
Hope this helps someone else in the future.
It only took me since yesterday to figure it out.
Thanks to those who responded here.
Final post with tweaked settings:
I followed Griga's direction above, and unticked the CI Module, and unticked the Open Whole Transponder box.
I did however tick the box by the Stop Stream While Tuning.
I did not change the registry setting that I had enabled in the previous post.
DVBViewer will not scan in channels with the tuner being used is set to normal. I had to set the other tuners to "Do Not Use" in order to get the channels to scan in, while setting the tuner being used to "Preferred".
DVBViewer will change back and forth between OTA and QAM with both tuners set to normal, but the channel switching is very slow, and sometimes only the audio comes in. I get much better performance with setting the tuner that I am using to Preferred, and setting the other tuners to "Do Not Use".
Part of that may be due to the speed of this computer. It is a P4 3.2Ghz with 2GB of RAM and SATA hard drives. It does have an Nvidia GeForce 6200 video card with 128Mb of video RAM running Windows XP SP4.
DVBViewer scanned in all the clear channels, but scanned in a few with audio only. I used the channel editor and set the Video PID to be the ame as the PCR PID, and the channels came in and displayed fine.
I am very pleased to have it working in DVBViewer.
I used the same Transponder list, and set the tuners the same way in Transedit with no results.
I had not changed my program from version 4.0 on my other computers simply because I had such a hard time making it work originally, and didn't want to fix something that wasn't broken.
The newer version of DVBViewer is very nice, and I have already switched one of the other computers over to the new version. I will follow up with the final computer today or tomorrow.
I just wanted to let you all know that I am still in the FTA hobby in one form or the other.
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Two HD Homerun tuners and Happauge DVB-S running
Just my 0.02 cents on how I'm using my HD Homerun tuners with Windows 7, EYETV and VLC
I've been running HD Homerun tuner 2nd Gen and the newer Dual ATSC tuner on Comcast QAM signal for about 6 months now. I have the 1st tuner on OTA antenna "Channel Master grid", and the 2nd tuner on the Comcast QAM. Separate COAX runs by the way to ease the install pains. I'm sharing the OTA coax with the KU dish on diplexer. Between OTA and QAM signals, I'm seeing close to 60 channels, lots of bull crap channels on the Comcast side, mostly QVC type, local city/government, lots of Spanish stations. I'm about 30 miles from one of the OTA antenna farms in my area, so good reception. I'm letting Windows 7 Media Center manage everything for me pretty much on default settings. On the HD Homerun setup, the HD Homerun picks up and sees both HD Homerun tuners as separate device addresses, you have to figure out which one is running as OTA and which one is running on QAM signal in your HD Homerun software, once you figure that out, Windows Media Center pretty much does all the work for you pulling in every channel it sees. Windows Media Center will prompt you on both on the OTA and QAM by your ZIP code and which cable operator your using by your zip code for the program guide. In my case I have Comcast, but it also gives your options for the other carriers in your area. In my case I had Comcast, Surewest, AT&T and one other local ISP to choose from for station guides. With the Nova-S Happauge PCI card in the mix, My KU dish is on the 97west bird. WMC also supports that card very good. some of the KU stations will show up in the WMC program guide, some dont have any program guide. I think the program guide setup looks to be a nightmare to figure out, I was also able to get my HD Homerun tuners to work with VLC Media player, I didn't know what I was doing, but I manage to figure it out and was able to play back some stations.
Just a side note, the new HD Homerun tuner I bought from eBay, came with the EYETV software for the MAC, I happen to have a Hackintosh on stand by not really doing anything, with the EYETV software installed, you can stream live TV to your iPhone or iPad in my case. This software is really nice, some what easy to setup and configure. The iPad EYETV app is $9.99 "used to be free few months ago" The company Elgato which makes the EYETV software also supports HD Homerun boxes, and they also sell a DVB-S USB tuner, but only works in Europe from my understanding. Silicon Dust needs to make a DVB-S HD Homerun tuner as well for the FTA guys.
I just picked up a Roku XS box not too long ago, that's another can of worms, and story I'm finding out with the hidden Roku channels you can subscribe too.
Just my 0.02 cents on how I'm using my HD Homerun tuners with Windows 7, EYETV and VLC
I've been running HD Homerun tuner 2nd Gen and the newer Dual ATSC tuner on Comcast QAM signal for about 6 months now. I have the 1st tuner on OTA antenna "Channel Master grid", and the 2nd tuner on the Comcast QAM. Separate COAX runs by the way to ease the install pains. I'm sharing the OTA coax with the KU dish on diplexer. Between OTA and QAM signals, I'm seeing close to 60 channels, lots of bull crap channels on the Comcast side, mostly QVC type, local city/government, lots of Spanish stations. I'm about 30 miles from one of the OTA antenna farms in my area, so good reception. I'm letting Windows 7 Media Center manage everything for me pretty much on default settings. On the HD Homerun setup, the HD Homerun picks up and sees both HD Homerun tuners as separate device addresses, you have to figure out which one is running as OTA and which one is running on QAM signal in your HD Homerun software, once you figure that out, Windows Media Center pretty much does all the work for you pulling in every channel it sees. Windows Media Center will prompt you on both on the OTA and QAM by your ZIP code and which cable operator your using by your zip code for the program guide. In my case I have Comcast, but it also gives your options for the other carriers in your area. In my case I had Comcast, Surewest, AT&T and one other local ISP to choose from for station guides. With the Nova-S Happauge PCI card in the mix, My KU dish is on the 97west bird. WMC also supports that card very good. some of the KU stations will show up in the WMC program guide, some dont have any program guide. I think the program guide setup looks to be a nightmare to figure out, I was also able to get my HD Homerun tuners to work with VLC Media player, I didn't know what I was doing, but I manage to figure it out and was able to play back some stations.
Just a side note, the new HD Homerun tuner I bought from eBay, came with the EYETV software for the MAC, I happen to have a Hackintosh on stand by not really doing anything, with the EYETV software installed, you can stream live TV to your iPhone or iPad in my case. This software is really nice, some what easy to setup and configure. The iPad EYETV app is $9.99 "used to be free few months ago" The company Elgato which makes the EYETV software also supports HD Homerun boxes, and they also sell a DVB-S USB tuner, but only works in Europe from my understanding. Silicon Dust needs to make a DVB-S HD Homerun tuner as well for the FTA guys.
I just picked up a Roku XS box not too long ago, that's another can of worms, and story I'm finding out with the hidden Roku channels you can subscribe too.
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I read through both your write up here and on the dvbviewer forum about configuring the HDhomerun on transedit. I cannot seem to replicate your results. would you mind taking a look at these screen shots and let me know if they are what i should be putting?
Thanks
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN
Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN
Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
Browns lead the AFC North 
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke
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Don't you mean phone sex operators
Is That why you keep SXM ???Don't you mean phone sex operators
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango
The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
I forgot you can pay that with Ford Pass points, I won't be due again till Feb, but I'll have to remember to try it ... Not sure what needs to be done, but I do have a substantial amount of points currently.Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango
The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
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when i say cancel. they give the moon and stars!!! iv'e gotten free radios and a free month once since it was my bdayIs That why you keep SXM ???
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America’s Fastest-Growing EV State Isn’t California—Not by a Long Shot
New data shows electric vehicle adoption is increasingly driven by state policies, electricity prices and charging access—not federal incentives
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The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.
It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.
So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.
US EV sales are rising again. Here’s why the recovery is set to last.
Even though sales tanked last year after the end of federal incentives, the American EV sector is on the mend as drivers face sky-high gasoline prices.
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
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USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy
Ethanol Free Stations
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy
Ethanol Free Stations
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Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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