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OUscotty

Last reply Sep 2, 2011 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Tailgating Emergency!

I've never owned Satellite signal so my apologies if I don't understand some of the terminology (I'm a network admin but have little experience in this area).

Ok maybe not an emergency but here's my situation. On my house I just moved into I have a DirecTV oval dish with the LMB(?) still attached to it. It has space for 5 little white transponders or LMBs or whatever they are called on it. Running off of it is two coax cables, one that was just wrapped up on the roof and the other which ran into the wall area somewhere in my attic.

I had a friend bring a standard receiver over (D12-100) and hooked it up to the coax running from the satellite. I get into the receiver and start doing a signal test. The satellite is set to 18 and SWM and I get nothing, 0% signal strength and all of the little 'transponder' things on the screen show 0. I switch it to "Multi-Switch" and I get 100% when I bring it up and an example line on 1-8 it shows 100 for 1 and 100 for 8 and similarly across the other transponders. However I can't get anything to happen with the satellite signal in terms of a guide or any channels. I also thought it was odd I could set the dish type to Round 18" and I would still get 100% signal strength on Multi-switch.

I don't really understand how this works but all I'm wanting to do is use the dish on top of my house, use someone's receiver and watch some games at the tailgate. Possible or no? What should I be doing to troubleshoot / get this working.

Thanks so much in advance.

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OUscotty

Sep 1, 2011

From a moral standpoint, I have no qualms using a satellite for tailgating. We have a tent with 'walls' and there's really not a huge difference between what we do and being at home so from a moral standpoint, my concious is clear and I doubt DirecTV would ever enforce that part of the service unless I'm charging entry into the tent

So I could try ordering a Phase III dish, then put a SL5 LMB onto it (complicated?)

I found this dish on amazon and it 'says' that with the Triple LMB it has that it can accept HD signals so I'm guessing if I got a compatible HD receiver for that dish I'd be good to go. Is there a receiver to dish matrix out there for DTV? I've been trying to locate one and can't find one that shows what receiver would work with what dishes.

http://www.amazon.com/PHASEIII-Dire...2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1314924178&sr=1-2

I really do appreciate your all's help, I'm learning a lot about something in which I have had no prior experience so I thank you for that.

Let's come at this from a different direction. Rather than you taking the lead on this, why don't you ask around who has Direct service and agree to give (or loan) them your dish. Let them do the setup. Taking their receiver along with them is accepted. Moreover, the person who already had the direct service will probably know what to do to set this up for tailgating. This seems like the simplest solution to your situation.

P.S. You will also need to locate a tripod stand for the antenna. Or you can work out a platform for the dish mast. (Using a tripod is much easier.)

I have thought about that however the guy with the DirecTV service is not very technical (at all) whereas being a network administrator/engineer I deal with this type of stuff frequently just not the satellite side of things in which I have 0 experience.

Jimbo

Sep 1, 2011

Getting this stuff before Saturday will be difficult.

harshness

Sep 2, 2011

OUscotty said:
So I could try ordering a Phase III dish, then put a SL5 LMB onto it (complicated?)

It is very complicated. First, you have to fashion an arm to mount the LNB on and then, through trial and error, you have to develop a system for aiming it (the Phase III lined up on 110W and the Slimlines point at 101W).

I found this dish on amazon and it 'says' that with the Triple LMB it has that it can accept HD signals so I'm guessing if I got a compatible HD receiver for that dish I'd be good to go.

The HD part of that went away a few years ago. They haven't changed the ad copy since then.

Is there a receiver to dish matrix out there for DTV? I've been trying to locate one and can't find one that shows what receiver would work with what dishes.

The matrix is that SD receivers can use the Phase III dish and HD receivers must use the Slimline (or AT-9 in a pinch) dish.

In the grand scheme, while bulkier, the Slimline is a whole lot easier to dial in than a cobbled up Phase III. This is especially important if you ever have cloudy days during the football season.

raoul5788

Sep 2, 2011

harshness said:
It is very complicated. First, you have to fashion an arm to mount the LNB on and then, through trial and error, you have to develop a system for aiming it (the Phase III lined up on 110W and the Slimlines point at 101W)

Fashion an arm? My understanding is that you must notch the existing arm to accept the lnb, that's it as far as adapting the dish. You do have to change the azimuth and skew closer to the Slimline numbers, but it's all trial and error when you don't have the proper meter anyway. Harshness, have you read the posts about how to do it or actually done it yourself? You are making it sound much harder than it is.

steecoe

Sep 2, 2011

It's actually very easy to use the phase III dish with an SL3 LNB. SOme people choose to make a notch on the LNB holder arm, I chose to grind off the nub thats on the LNB itself. As for aiming the dish, use the coordinates for the SL3 as a starting point & then peak the 101 until it's really nailed as high as possible & then adujust the tilt to find a good balance between the 99 & 103's. Be sure your mast is dead level & plumb & you shouldn't have too much trouble at all.

I have been running a fixed (chimney mounted) setup up like this for a couple years & only have trouble in the heaviest of rains or if the snow builds up between the dish & LNB..

BobStokesbary

Sep 2, 2011

Can we go back to the OP's opening statement here for a sec?

OUscotty said:
I've never owned Satellite signal so my apologies if I don't understand some of the terminology (I'm a network admin but have little experience in this area).. On my house I just moved into I have a DirecTV oval dish with the LMB(?) still attached to it. It has space for 5 little white transponders or LMBs or whatever they are called on it. Running off of it is two coax cables, one that was just wrapped up on the roof and the other which ran into the wall area somewhere in my attic.

All this talk about Phase III might be interesting to the advanced person, but not applicable to the OP's level of experience. That is why I suggested that he seek out someone who knows this stuff and has a receiver and just loan them his dish. Since it is Friday now, I would assume that he has figured out he will not have his solution by Saturday.

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meStevo

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Last reply 12 minutes ago · posted in The Sports Section

NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.

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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.

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Foxbat said:
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.

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Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.

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Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply 14 minutes ago · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/21/2026

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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
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Additional tabs provide:

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KyL416

Yesterday at 2:37 PM

WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
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KyL416

Today at 7:25 AM

HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Mr Tony

Today at 10:40 AM

KyL416 said:
HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.

KyL416

Today at 4:48 PM

KyL416 said:
Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS

They're finally live in the app's API, doing a check

PISTONS is not available in Detroit (WMYD/20), it is available in the rest of Michigan including Marquette who also gets the games on their MyNet station WJMN/3, along with the Toledo DMA and the northern portions of the South Bend and Fort Wayne DMAs.

THUNDER is available in OKC and Tulsa, so I wonder if DTV is just going to keep the OTA feeds of KSBI/52 and KQCW/19 and direct viewers to 675 for the rest of the games.
On stream it's in Choice for Oklahoma (inlcuding the Oklahoma portions of the Amarillo, Sherman-Ada, Wichita Falls-Lawton and Joplin DMAs) and Western Arkansas and requires Sports Pack for Nebraska, Kansas and Western Missouri, I'm not sure if it's the same for satellite.

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coolman302003

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KyL416 said:
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Some more TPN swaps

It appears we are not getting both home & away feeds out of market on League Pass for these teams either…

I've been watching the Spurs home feed on channel 676-1 (was part time San Antonio specific feed) out of market with NBALP for YEARS on satellite (through the multiple iterations of Fox Sports SW, Bally Sports SW, FanDuel Sports SW) Looks like that will not happen unless a deal is reached with DAZN. I do see the placeholder channel on 680 if it happens.

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply 31 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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dishdude

Monday at 5:05 PM

I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

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Today at 1:10 PM

dishdude said:
I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

I had both the 921 and the 922. I used to buy them from DishDepot.com in Florida and trade in my older owned receiver towards the newest receiver. The 921 was a reboot receiver and the sling part was hit or miss. I look back on all those receivers I paid for over 25 years and I think it was just TV. If I had that money back now I would be lot richer. My Owned Hopper 3 is sitting in a drawer in my office not being used.

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Today at 1:33 PM

That was part of the Ergen scheme, to sell the product as well as the service. And who didn't want the best box?

Maybe they went to the hopper because they were running out of 3-digit model #s- 1022 would have been kinda clunky. Folks would have tried to say "one-thousand and twenty two" instead of "ten-twenty-two".

Like some say "two thousand and twenty six".

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Today at 2:34 PM

That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.

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Today at 4:24 PM

922 was a train wreck. The end!

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922 was a train wreck. The end!

I know I regretted that purchase!

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A fine top notch TV show which is light years ahead!!

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N5XZS said:
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Mrs. Foxbat and I are enjoying another great season so far. We only had to turn on the captions a few times.

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Last reply Today at 4:53 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Newest NCIS recording doesn't allow auto skip

On Tuesday, I recorded the first episodes of the new season's NCIS shows on CBS (Dish provided, not OTA). The new New York series and Origins will both do Auto Skip, but the original, now season 24 does not. What's stranger, when I do a search for NCIS, Origins and New York show the current recording and the next episode it will record, but the original show only shows the current recording and some other channel showing the very first episode of season one. It makes no sense. When I set up the timers, I was able to use search for Origins and New York, but for the original, I had to scroll ahead in the guide until last Tuesday when the show was airing. Then set the timer from there. You can see its timer type is DVR where the other two are Seek. What am I missing?
Thanks!

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Nebugeater

Thursday at 9:12 AM

It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF

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Bobby

Thursday at 11:22 AM

Nebugeater said:
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF

And there is a difference between fast forward and skip forwad....

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tanman

Thursday at 11:25 AM

With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.

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Cold Irons

Thursday at 12:03 PM

tanman said:
With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.

Yep. We do this all the time, but we use the 30-sec skip forward button until the red kangaroo shows up. Love this feature.

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Jim5506

Thursday at 9:27 PM

I'm a bit confused about the recording methods.
Do you havePrime Time Anytime enabled, by doing that you don't have to set recordings for Prime time programs on ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox stations, it's done daily, 7 days a week.
And only 2 weeks recordings are saved, no deletions either.

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dennispap

Today at 4:53 PM

Jim5506 said:
I'm a bit confused about the recording methods.
Do you havePrime Time Anytime enabled, by doing that you don't have to set recordings for Prime time programs on ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox stations, it's done daily, 7 days a week.
And only 2 weeks recordings are saved, no deletions either.

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Last reply Today at 4:27 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

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Today at 11:20 AM

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