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bobvick

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Last reply Jan 1, 2012 · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

Help with motorized dish elevation

I am trying to get the elevation of my dish set correctly. I have a Hot Dish 90 that I am trying to mount on a SG2100 motor. I have the motor latitude set at 34, which is my latitude. When I go to dishpointer.com and look in the instruction book it tells me that for a SG2100 motorized system that I need to have the dish elevation set at 24.5 degrees. The problem is, the elevation scale on the Hot Dish 90 only goes down to about 25, from the best I can tell, and I can't get that low because of the bolt. What I am doing wrong? Does anyone have any ideas? I have posted some pictures below.

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bobvick

Oct 11, 2011

I tried again yesterday to get some satellite, some where. I was unable to find anything again. I was not able to work long and I did not have my TV set and receiver out with me. I had an idea, and I wonder if it will work. I thought about taking the dish off of the motor, and removing the motor from the mounting pole. Then position the dish (with no motor, just az/el mount it) for 87W. Once I have found 87 that way, (if I can find it), I wonder if I could measure the angle of the dish with a straight edge vertically up and down the face of the dish, and copy that number down, and then put the motor back up and position the elevation of the dish using that number I copied down when I had it as an az/el mount. I wonder if that would work?

Nosbod

Oct 13, 2011

I rechecked your pictures and I see your latitude based on your motor setting is approx 34 degrees. If this is accurate then based on my paper work your dish elevation should be some where around 50.47 degrees. Make sure you motor is in the center position and make sure the dish is aligned straight on the motor mount pole and the LNBF is 90 degrees to the dish.

bobvick

Oct 13, 2011

I would have gotten the GeoSat Pro dish if I had not gotten a deal on this from the guy I bought my first motor from. I had bought a Premium motor, and it did not work out like it was supposed to. Anyway, to make a long story short, he took the Premium motor back and then gave me a good deal that I could not pass up on the SG2100 and the HotDish 90. I have a Geo Sat Pro 1.2m from Brian, and it is MUCH nicer than this HotDish 90. Like I said, I would have rather had the GeoSat Pro 90cm, but I got to good of a deal on this in my particular situation.
But to reiterate, if you are in the market for a GOOD dish, get the GeoSat Pro. And I can not recommend SatelliteAV enough, great folks to deal with.

bobvick

Oct 13, 2011

Nosbod said:
I rechecked your pictures and I see your latitude based on your motor setting is approx 34 degrees. If this is accurate then based on my paper work your dish elevation should be some where around 50.47 degrees. Make sure you motor is in the center position and make sure the dish is aligned straight on the motor mount pole and the LNBF is 90 degrees to the dish.

If I am thinking correctly though, since this is on a motor, would I not need to take the offset angle of the dish away from the angle? The offset angle of the dish is 24.62, and the elevation is 50.47, so would I not need to set the dish elevation at about 25.85-26 as measured on an inclinometer on the face of the dish using a straight edge?

AcWxRadar

Oct 13, 2011

bobvick said:
I tried again yesterday to get some satellite, some where. I was unable to find anything again. I was not able to work long and I did not have my TV set and receiver out with me. I had an idea, and I wonder if it will work. I thought about taking the dish off of the motor, and removing the motor from the mounting pole. Then position the dish (with no motor, just az/el mount it) for 87W. Once I have found 87 that way, (if I can find it), I wonder if I could measure the angle of the dish with a straight edge vertically up and down the face of the dish, and copy that number down, and then put the motor back up and position the elevation of the dish using that number I copied down when I had it as an az/el mount. I wonder if that would work?

Bob,

I like this idea of yours. Set the HOT DISH 90 up as a FIXED POINT dish on the mast alone (without the motor). Dial in satellite 87°W and then place a straight edge down the face of the dish vertically. Use your inclinometer and read off the angle from the straight edge. This must be the same angle that the face of the dish will have when it is attached to the motor. So, when you attach the dish to the motor, you won't need to question what angle you should add or subract from what. It elliminates the need to know what the angle of the motor tube bend is (whether it be 30°, 35° or 40°).

When you attach the motor, with the motor elevation set to your latitude of 34°, just use the same straight edge and set your dish elevation adjustment to obtain the same angle as you recorded when the dish was set as a fixed point dish.

If you cannot adjust the dish elevation bracket to obtain the same reading because of mechanical limitations, then the dish is either assembled incorrectly OR, if it is assembled correctly, it just may not work with a motor in that configuration. In that case, you will need to "flip" the mounting hardware / bracket on the back of the dish so that it is up-side-down. That should expand your adjustment range so that it will work. Obviously, you will not be able to utilize the original elevation scale of the dish in any way that makes sense as it will be reversed now and when you are increasing the elevation, the numbers will actually be going down and only match up at one point where it crosses over. You won't need to be concerned with that, though. Just use your inclinometer and set the dish elevation that way and simply ignore the scale on the dish bracket.

If you are inclined to do so, while you have the dish set up as a fixed point dish, you could set the dish elevation at increments of 5° or less and mark off a new scale on the dish bracket. Then, you can read from this new scale and avoid the process of having to remeasure the angle with the inclinometer every time you want to tweak it. Once it is marked out accurately, you can always refer to it later with ease. Especially so if you have to invert the mounting bracket.

RADAR

Nosbod

Oct 13, 2011

No. You have an offset dish so you don't have to worry about declination that's why the dish is offset. The only adjustment you have to make is the elevation. You set the inclination on the motor to your latitude from your pictures that's 34 degrees. Set your dish elevation to 50.47. Point the dish true south and follow my previous instructions.

You don't have to be a mathematician here your over thinking the problem. Keep it simple.

jbebic

Jan 1, 2012

Hello bobvick, I have the same dish and the same question as you did. What was ultimately the resolution of your problem? Is it what nosbod suggested?

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Gary Toma

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Interesting. I remember that being HD-only for a bit a long time ago and then it was back to SD-only.

looking at the old maps, that was from March 2017 to June 2019.

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Last reply 11 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Price Increase on Owned Equipment?

Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.

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telstar_1

Today at 11:45 AM

Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees

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Today at 12:34 PM

telstar_1 said:
Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees

Possibly. In theory, $9 of the base pack has a rental fee built in. But now is this $5 a chance to get a little more? I don't know for sure. According to chat, it is a glitch and will be resolved in a timely manner, but we shall see. Part of my thinks there is a going to be a new charge, whether it is now or this fall. Here in Illinois, the law requires we are given 30 days notice of any fee changes, but I have not been given anything.

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These fees are why streaming has caught on so well across the country and DISH is losing subs each quarter. Soon won't be enough subs to be profitable.

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Does cable charge box rent?

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telstar_1 said:
Does cable charge box rent?

The cable company I was with years ago did charge $9.99 for a receiver.

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Mexico takes on South Africa to open the World Cup Final (it is called the Final... this just isn't the World Cup Final... Final). The tournament has been plagued with rife malfeasance as FIFA has been committing all sorts of fraud with the ticket sales. Hotel rooms have gone unfilled as the prices to attend a game and stay somewhere are through the roof. I swear this is impacting Mansfield, OH hotel rates which are higher than average for the Indycar race. And there is a broadening VAR presence which will ruin things as nothing worse now when scoring a goal and knowing you can't quite celebrate yet as they check to see if a player was offside by a pixel a half-hour ago.

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Channels on DIRECTV Satellite and not on Stream/Internet

So...DirecTV advertises the Choice package with 95+ bonus channels for Satellite customers. You don't want 90+ of the 95...

Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.

I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.

What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
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If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.

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MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.

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KyL416 said:
107 LIVE4K3 and 108 LIVE4K4 are now testing on the stream server

Happy to see that DTV Stream will finally line up fully with the DTV Satellite 4K content and Channel Guide.

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They turned them on today !

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They turned them on today !

I see in the 4K Channels Guide that the Telemundo WC games will be airing in 4K. I believe this is the first time ever we will have Spanish-language broadcasts in 4K (in the USA). Did not happen during the last World Cup in Qatar 2022.

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