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digiblur
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I'm looking at putting a camera system into a location, it is residential for the most part. Just not occupied all the time, it does have an internet connection but we would like to have it store the video on a hard drive there. I would like the ability for the system to send us notifications via the internet and also be viewable via the internet over Android and Windows PC's.

I was looking at something like this... looks like it comes with 4 cameras expandable to 8 cameras.

Newegg.com - Night Owl Poseidon-45 8 Channel H.264 Level Kit Solution

Anybody have any recommendations? There are just SOOOO many choices out there. I don't want to buy some piece of junk that is hard to operate. And also worried that the cameras are garbage.
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mike123abc
AVTECH AVC798AD 16 Channels Real time 480FPS H.264

That is a link to the last 2 DVRs I installed. They have an iphone app. It is $500 for a 16 camera DVR without drives. You can put 2 2TB drives in it.

They have 8 & 4 camera versions too.

For cameras I usually get 700TVL IR Vandal Metal White Dome Camera 3.6mm, EFFIO 1/3" SONY ExViewHAD CCD

They have a very nice super sharp picture.
digiblur
For cameras I usually get 700TVL IR Vandal Metal White Dome Camera 3.6mm, EFFIO 1/3" SONY ExViewHAD CCD

They have a very nice super sharp picture.

Looks like that camera isn't carried any longer. Wish I would have snagged a couple when they were up there, website seems kinda iffy to me at first, which is why I didn't buy them up. Any other recommendations? Have you bought anything from that website before?
Pepper
Any of these are IP cameras? I've been tasked with researching this for my workplace and would rather not have to run a bunch of new cabling.
mike123abc
Looks like that camera isn't carried any longer. Wish I would have snagged a couple when they were up there, website seems kinda iffy to me at first, which is why I didn't buy them up. Any other recommendations? Have you bought anything from that website before?

I buy from them a couple times a year (I bought 10 about 6 weeks ago). He direct imports the stuff from China so his inventory goes in and out. You can email him to see when they will be back in stock. Usually once a month he gets a shipment. It looks like they are out of stock ATM.
digiblur
I buy from them a couple times a year (I bought 10 about 6 weeks ago). He direct imports the stuff from China so his inventory goes in and out. You can email him to see when they will be back in stock. Usually once a month he gets a shipment. It looks like they are out of stock ATM.

Do you have some pics or video clips of them? They look like a great price for the camera.

Do they work good at night outdoors in very dark places?

I was confused on how you add the cable on the same order but they sell the same length of cable separate for more money but they say free shipping on cable of ordered along with a camera. So I wasn't sure of the cable I would get if I put the add word in the box when ordering the cable.



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digiblur
Any of these are IP cameras? I've been tasked with researching this for my workplace and would rather not have to run a bunch of new cabling.

Some are. You can use cat5 cabling and get the baluns to convert the video from bnc to cat5. Very cheap and simple.

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mike123abc
Do you have some pics or video clips of them? They look like a great price for the camera.

Do they work good at night outdoors in very dark places?

I was confused on how you add the cable on the same order but they sell the same length of cable separate for more money but they say free shipping on cable of ordered along with a camera. So I wasn't sure of the cable I would get if I put the add word in the box when ordering the cable.

At night they use the infrared LEDs to give a black and white picture. Probably good for 15 feet or so.

If you put add in the size cable you want they will add it. It is a fairly amateur web site, the guy (Keith) essentially figures it out or will email you.

I will see if I cannot find some video, essentially viewing remote is very compressed (CIF or 1/4 resolution then compressed with H264). The DVRs are up in the ceiling at the stores, to keep them from being messed with. The DVRs record full resolution, so when we have an "incident" we burn it to DVD. It does not happen very often (thankfully).

I have put these in 9 restaurants, with up to 16 cameras per restaurant. Of course that is over the years and different cameras were used as we went along, but essentially they were all ordered from this web site (we buy DVRs from another site as mentioned above). We replace/add cameras as needed, and this is the current camera we use when doing replacement/additions. We like the dome ones better than bullet ones since they hold their position far better. We use them indoor and outdoors. We also like fixed over varifocal since that is another thing that always seems to get out of adjustment. Restaurants are fairly abusive environments and they hold up well. The main problem we usually have is grease buildup on the camera that has to be cleaned off every now and then as the picture will get blurry.

It is night and day though on old cameras vs these newer ones. The old ones were 480-540 lines when they were put in, good for 10 years ago. These new ones look far better.
digiblur
At night they use the infrared LEDs to give a black and white picture. Probably good for 15 feet or so.

If you put add in the size cable you want they will add it. It is a fairly amateur web site, the guy (Keith) essentially figures it out or will email you.

I will see if I cannot find some video, essentially viewing remote is very compressed (CIF or 1/4 resolution then compressed with H264). The DVRs are up in the ceiling at the stores, to keep them from being messed with. The DVRs record full resolution, so when we have an "incident" we burn it to DVD. It does not happen very often (thankfully).

I have put these in 9 restaurants, with up to 16 cameras per restaurant. Of course that is over the years and different cameras were used as we went along, but essentially they were all ordered from this web site (we buy DVRs from another site as mentioned above). We replace/add cameras as needed, and this is the current camera we use when doing replacement/additions. We like the dome ones better than bullet ones since they hold their position far better. We use them indoor and outdoors. We also like fixed over varifocal since that is another thing that always seems to get out of adjustment. Restaurants are fairly abusive environments and they hold up well. The main problem we usually have is grease buildup on the camera that has to be cleaned off every now and then as the picture will get blurry.

It is night and day though on old cameras vs these newer ones. The old ones were 480-540 lines when they were put in, good for 10 years ago. These new ones look far better.

Seems like they are pretty close to this camera:

EYEsurv ESCEB650-1

Yeah, the 15 foot wouldn't cut it for this application at night. We need about double that. The little cameras that came with the system seem to do well above 35 feet, actually impressed with their night distance.

Weird, I can view remotely in full resolution, I can even pick a list of files that I want to download from the DVR and it downloads the AVI's right to my PC I'm on. Glad I didn't get that DVR ;)
mike123abc
Seems like they are pretty close to this camera:

EYEsurv ESCEB650-1

Yeah, the 15 foot wouldn't cut it for this application at night. We need about double that. The little cameras that came with the system seem to do well above 35 feet, actually impressed with their night distance.

Weird, I can view remotely in full resolution, I can even pick a list of files that I want to download from the DVR and it downloads the AVI's right to my PC I'm on. Glad I didn't get that DVR ;)

We have slow uplink at the locations so the settings pretty low (less than 256kbit). In store I can get full resolution over the ethernet.
dfergie
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Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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Bob Evans Sage.
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Bob Evans Sage.
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
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Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
amazon maybe :what
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
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Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
id'e rather make my own vs store bought.
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owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
Especially when I can get a two pound roll of Jimmy Dean from Sam's Club for $7.38.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Smoke! Smoke! Smoke! (That Cigarette) -- Tex Williams
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Don't Do Me Like That - Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
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I LIKE It LIKE THAT-The Dave Clark Five
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Five O'Clock World - The Vogues
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All Around The World - Oasis
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Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.



View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4


Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.


View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
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Some wild inflation and significant uptick in earthquake activity in the caldera. Magma intrusion, could lead to new fissure(s). Or not.

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Summary: A shallow intrusion of magma is occurring within the summit region near the existing eruption location in Hawai'i Volcanoes National Park.

Activity Summary: Earthquake activity has increased in the summit region of Kīlauea beneath Halemaʻumaʻu crater and the south caldera region. Ground deformation patterns recorded by summit tiltmeters suggest that magma is intruding beneath the ground in this area, in an east-west orientation, near the western or southern part of Halemaʻumaʻu crater.

Increased earthquake activity began this afternoon, September 30, 2026, at approximately 2 p.m. HST, underneath Halemaʻumaʻu. Since then, about 40 earthquakes have been detected and activity is still on-going. The largest event, so far, a magnitude 3.4 earthquake, occurred at 9:52 p.m. HST, 1.4 km (0.9 miles) beneath the surface in the northeast part of Halemaʻumaʻu. Starting around 8 p.m. HST., summit tiltmeters began to show extremely rapid changes consistent with crack growth in an east-west orientation possible near the current vent area, suggesting that magma is intruding in this region.

Historically, east-west trending fissures have erupted in the southeastern part of Halemaʻumaʻu and extending through the Keanakākoʻi crater area all the way to Chain of Craters Road near Lua Manu. The last east-west fissure in this area erupted in September 2023 and extended from the middle of Halemaʻumaʻu to the eastern wall just beneath the Keanakākoʻi overlook. An event of this type is also possible under current conditions.

Currently, there are no signs of a change at the surface as the existing eruptive vent complex in Halemaʻumaʻu, including the north and south vents, continue to intermittently spatter with strong glow and flames; however, conditions could change quickly. It is possible that this event ends without reaching the surface or it produces a fissure eruption in a new location within the summit caldera region.
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View: https://youtu.be/tv37YPVfHME


Gemini summary:

In this video from Shawn Willsey: Geology Explained, geology professor Shawn Willsey details rapid subsurface and surface changes at Kīlauea volcano in Hawaii:
  • Signs of a Magma Intrusion (Dike): Summit tiltmeters recorded an unprecedented, rapid inflation spike of around 45 microradians [04:00 Opens in a new window ], accompanied by a dramatic surge of over 100 shallow earthquakes within 24 hours (peaking at a magnitude 3.4) [01:44 Opens in a new window ]. The deformation indicates that magma is intruding in an east-west orientation beneath the southern caldera/Halemaʻumaʻu region [01:16 Opens in a new window ].

  • No Rift Zone Migration: Tilt and seismic data confirm magma is remaining confined to the summit area rather than traveling down the East Rift Zone [02:40 Opens in a new window ].

  • Structural Pathways: Willsey notes that pre-existing faults and fractures expanded during the 2018 caldera collapse [08:32 Opens in a new window ]. Because these fracture zones remain unsealed, magma can move and mobilize toward the surface much faster than before [10:17 Opens in a new window ].

  • Potential Outcomes: The intrusion could stall underground without erupting, or it could feed a new east-west fissure eruption inside the summit caldera, similar to the September 2023 event [02:47 Opens in a new window ].

  • Shift to Dome Overflows: Webcam footage from overnight reveals repeated pulses of fluid lava overflowing the spatter cone at the North Vent [11:42 Opens in a new window ]. Occurring roughly every 20 to 50 minutes and lasting several minutes each [12:36 Opens in a new window ], these cyclic overflows suggest Kīlauea may be transitioning away from high-fountaining episodes toward regular surface overflows [14:54 Opens in a new window ].

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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
KAB
KAB
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
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I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...
Anony55
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For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
Anony55
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.
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They tell you to trash it and not to sell simply because they're phasing them out, not particularly because someone might be "confused" into buying it and not be able to activate. They tell people that in every case where they're not acting to get a box back, either from a replacement or service cancel.
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Although my VIP211K hasn't been subscribed or connected to a dish in probably 5 years since canceling service, my 1 TB HDD full of programming still works fine.

Upon occasion I power it up to watch something I recorded as far back as 2010. The last time I had it going in September it even let me rescan the local OTA channels which I think it refused at some earlier time. I will use it until the day it fails but this topic makes me think some software download is responsible for current subscribers.
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