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The old C-band dishes have a scaler ring around the lnb. The newer offset dishes do not have a scaler ring. Does anyone know if a newer lnbf will work on a prime focas dish with no scaler ring? Rebuilding my birdview 8ft solid dish with single adjustable length arms to the lnbf making a lnbf mount to the adjustable arms but with no scaler ring. In my younger days I think I remember the scaler ring was to help with ground noise or interference. I can't remember anymore. Do you need a scaler ring on a prime focas dish? This is to be a KU dish only.
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Tron
As FaT Air said, the scalar rings in Ku-Band LNBFs are built in. They are behind the weather-protective cap, and can be seen on the Invacom LNBFs because the protective cap is transparent.

There is a diffence in scalar rings (C or Ku) designed for prime focus dishes versus those designed for offset dishes. Scalars for offset dishes are conical, and the scalars for prime focus dishes are flat. The scalars built into almost all Ku-Band LNBFs are conical (for offset dishes). There are a couple of Ku-Band LNBFs that have flat scalars and are designed for use with prime focus dishes; The SL1P FaT Air mentioned is sold by SatelliteAV.
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Thank you Radio, Fat Air and Tron for responding to my post. I thought there was a difference between C and KU lnbf's but could not remember what it was. As soon as Tron said conical it hit me and I started to remember what the difference was. Have been messing with dishes for about 20 years now I am forgetting many little things as I age. Have read many post on birdview dish modifications but do not remember reading where a prime focus lnbf is needed. I have added the read sensor and put some thin washers in the under sids or the lower side of the dish mount as in central florida I need 4.6 degree declination instead of five. I think the lower side is correct to reduce the declination and the upper side to increase it. Someone may comment on that as I may not remember correctly as I had to reassemble the dish last week and could not remember where I put the washers last time the dish was used. I started to build a mount for one of the lnbf's I have and then something told me to check before I go to far with the lnbf mount build. You guys have saved me a lot of time and work as I started to put an offset lnbf on the dish. I will now look for a prime focas lnbf and start the mount build all over again. Also I read about the 36 to 1 and the 70 to 1 motor for the birdview dish. Can someone fill me in on the difference between them and how to tell which one I have?
phlatwound
You are correct, adding washers between the bottom plate of the mount and the dish will decrease your declination.

And there should be a tag or label on your motor that indicates the drive ratio, I have seen 37:1, 70:1 and 110:1.
Anole
I would recommend you get one of our excellent FTA moderators to change the topic of this thread to something mentioning the word: Birdview
Then, post some pictures, and you'll get all the Birdview help you need! :)

Also, search for Birdview threads; many members have posted a boatload on 'em.
Pendragon even got into the club, and his recent thread might add to all that's gone before:
http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/264831-Pendragon-vs-the-Birdview

edit: as for an LNB to bolt to the Invacom AF-120 feedhorn, I'm currently exploring how to graft on a SatelliteAV PLL Ku (after a trip to a machine shop). :)
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Thanks for the suggestion Anole. I am working on doing that now. Read a lot of the post on feeds and birdview the last couple of days. Hope Pendragon gets his spoon dialed in. Very insteresting post. I like to tinker with stuff also but on a smaller scale. I had some time today and looking for a good feed for my birdview to get it going again for ku only. Removed the c/ku corotor II and just want to go ku band only. I have a 12 ft mesh dish for c band up and running years ago and still looks good and a 12 ft. solid dish but now have nowhere to put the 12 ft solid dish. Massive mount, post and dish frame. Just playing around, I took one of my cheap $5.00 ku offset lnbf and popped the plastic top off to expose the scaler rings. Took my drummel with a cut off wheel and removed most of the conical rings and ended up with three flat rings on the scaler. Going to put it on the birdview to see what happens. Something that did amaze me is I put it back on my 120cm offset dish and found no difference in signal and quality than before I cut it up. . I thought I would see some reduction in signal and quality but did not. I also put a corotor II scaler ring around the lnbf holding it in place moving it around on the offset dish and it did not seem to make any differencd no matter where I put it. Very unscientific experment but expected to see a difference in signal and quality but did not happen. I am just in the learning stage but like to play. That is what the hobby is for isn't it?
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Not alot of dish customers any more
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I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
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"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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White Wedding - Billy Idol
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White Christmas - Elvis Presley
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Dirty White Boy - Foreigner
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Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley
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Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson