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My old FTA receiver (Diamond 9000HD) recently died, and since I currently have a MythTV backend running on a repurposed Mac Mini (using Mythbuntu Linux as the OS, NOT OS X) and a HDHomeRun Dual that does a pretty good job of receiving and recording OTA programs, I am thinking about extending it to have FTA satellite reception capability. The problem is my satellite system is rather old (for example, the dish is an old 10' Winegard with the square pole, and the feedhorn has both C and Ku LNB's and the blue polorotor to switch polarities, etc. We're talking technology at least a decade old here, maybe more).

So my thought was to upgrade, but there are two criteria:

1. The Mac Mini doesn't have card slots, so I can't use any card based tuners.
2. I am an old fart cheapskate and damn proud of it, so I'm not going out and spending money with wild abandon on this project. In other words, NO I won't buy another computer so I can use a PCI card.

I mention #2 because when I read past threads this forum I notice that some people like to tell others how to spend their money and imply they're cheapskates if they don't use the best available. If you call me a cheapskate I'll take it as a complement and I still won't buy the most expensive part! But I might be willing to spend a few bucks extra to get significantly better quality, or to get something that won't die on me in the first year or two. Even I understand false economy.

So here is what I am thinking of doing (though probably not until the weather gets a bit warmer - mid-January is just not the time to do this sort of thing where I live):

- Using a TBS Technologies TBS5922 to get the satellite signals into my MythTV backend. The only thing that stops me is I cannot find a comprehensive review of this device anywhere. On the flip side I don't find any complaints, so I guess that counts for something, but I'd sure like to hear from someone who is actually using one of these, particularly if using it with Linux.
- Getting rid of my old analog receiver that I use to move the dish (is ANYTHING still in analog anymore?), and using a DiSEqC controlled dish mover such as the GBox V3000 Satellite Position/Controller, which has a great review on your site but Sadoun seems to be out of stock on them, or maybe a VBox 7 DiSEqC Positioner which Sadoun has in stock, but which I don't see reviewed.
- I'm also guessing it's time for a new feedhorn and would probably get a C/Ku unit like one of these for that purpose and use a 22KHz tone switch to switch between inputs. That way I don't have to deal with the polorotor anymore, plus I would imagine that LNB technology has improved quite a bit over the years.

But before I lay out that kind of money — and that is a significant amount for me — I'd like to know if there are any flaws in this plan. The biggest thing that concerns me is the TBS5922, because I have never used something like that before. They say it is compatible with MythTV so in theory it should work, but as we all know, what manufacturers claim and the reality of the situation is often somewhat different. I'm just kind of surprised that no one has reviewed it in the hardware reviews section because I would have thought there would be an interest in something like that.

For those that don't get why I'm interested in this, the beauty is that you can set up a MythTV backend system near where your signals come into a home or building, and then run the MythTV frontend software on any other computer on the local network (including a home theater PC that feeds your TV) and watch the received signals there. So as long as you have a connection to your local network, and assuming that your router (and switches, if any) are not ancient (and slow), you are not limited to watching TV only in the places where you have run coaxial cable. I've always found it's a lot easier to run networking cable than coax, and once the signal is converted to TCP/IP there is no further signal loss. It makes it possible to watch TV in places where that would have formerly have been impractical, plus MythTV has PVR capability built in. It just opens up a lot of interesting possibilities that did not exist heretofore.
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updatelee
I cant see why it wouldnt work, as long as the kernel supports it then mythtv should have no issues with it.

I can tell you that my Prof 7500 has never once ever been plugged into a windows computer, I use it in Linux exclusively.

The 7500 will work out of box, if you want to take full advantage of it then I recommend you use my patch and compile new kernel modules, totally optional but will give you access to more features like blind_search so that if you ask to tune 4040 H 30000 and the actual freq is 4045 H 29750 it'll determine that the info you entered is close and calculate automagically the correct paramaters and lock the signal. It will also give you access to some more features like blindscan and spectrumscan.

The TBS5922 will NOT work out of box, you MUST download the TBS drivers, compile and install. TBS uses precompiled libraries and will never be included in the mainline Linux kernel until they go open source which they dont seem too interested in doing. I even emailed them my open source patch to make the TBS6925 completely opensource with no precompiled libraries and they emailed me a semi rude email explaining that there was absolutely no benifit to open source and that nothing good would ever come of open sourcing the 6925. Dont get me wrong, I like their hardware, Id defn buy from TBS again, the 5925/6925 are excellent products. Its just with their mindset I'll be selective of what I buy from them.

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I cant see why it wouldnt work, as long as the kernel supports it then mythtv should have no issues with it.

I can tell you that my Prof 7500 has never once ever been plugged into a windows computer, I use it in Linux exclusively.
So far, so good, but then you say...
The 7500 will work out of box, if you want to take full advantage of it then I recommend you use my patch and compile new kernel modules...
The TBS5922 will NOT work out of box, you MUST download the TBS drivers, compile and install.
You're convincing me that I should probably just forget about this. The minute you mention the word compile, I see nothing but trouble. I can install software using the Ubuntu software center or Synaptic, and in a pinch I can even manage to install something using apt-get now and then. I've even managed to install something using dpkg once or twice. But with very rare exceptions, I've had notoriously bad luck with anything that has to be compiled.

It's usually a combination of two things: First, the people who want you to compile something typically assume you have done it hundreds of times before so they don't give you complete, step by step instructions. Well I have not done it hundreds of times and I need to be told every single step necessary in detail. For example, if the program comes in some sort of archive file, I need to know how to uncompress the archive, including the exact options to use.

The other thing is that on the few occasions that adequate instructions have been provided, what typically happens is that I get a whole bunch of error and warning messages and the program will not run, and I have no idea why. Sometimes it will print a message about an unmet dependency, and I have no idea what it's wanting me to do about it. Like I say, Linux people just tend to assume you should know these things, and since I did not cut my teeth on Linux when I was 10 years old, I have absolutely no idea what to do when something like that happens.

I had assumed that because the TBS5922 claims Linux and MythTV support, that there would be some way to just install the software, perhaps by adding a repository or something. If they seriously expect users to compile software, I hope they give very detailed instructions.

As you can imagine, I would have no idea how to apply your patch (which I assume you have posted somewhere?) and recompile. What software are you patching, anyway?

I'm just seeing way too much potential to dig myself into a hole that I can't climb out of on this (and getting stuck with a piece of equipment that I cannot make work). I'm going to have to give this a lot more thought, but right at the moment my inclination is to just forget about it.

Thanks for the information, it was quite eye-opening to say the least!
rv1pop
I know almost nothing about linux, but have seen a lot of posts by updatelee..... And he seems like a person who would not lead you astray, and, in fact, will walk you through EVERY step, Much like stargaze and the maps for 4dtv.

Just my thoughts, so continue the thread- it promises to be informative!

POP
updatelee
As long as your willing to post logs when you get yourself into trouble Im sure me and others here can help you out :)

Remember the 7500 will work just fine out of box, just wont have blind search or spectrum scanning. If those are features you want then you can attempt the compiling of the custom kernel modules.

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Just as an update, I found this page which describes installing and using the TBS 6925 PC Card with MythTV. But this is a card (and a much more high-end one at that) than the USB device I was looking at, and the repurposed Mac Mini I am using as a backend won't accept cards, and I am not sure if these instructions are applicable with the USB devices. There is an equivalent USB device at a similar price (the TBS 5925) but as far as I can tell the only thing you get in that card is the ability to receive 16PSK and 32PSK formats, and I don't think there are any Free-To-Air services using those formats in North America (am I wrong?), so I don't see any advantage in getting a TBS 5925 over the much less expensive TBS 5922 — am I missing something?

I still can't find any instructions anywhere about using a Prof 7500 with MythTV, nor anything that says its supported under MythTV, so even if I were deeply concerned about open vs. closed source (and frankly, I'm not as long as it works) I would still be more inclined to get the device that actually advertises MythTV support, and the TBS products do. I don't want to buy a card JUST because it is open source and then have to depend on one or two guys to keep it updated, or have to struggle to get it to work with MythTV (and just to be clear, I ONLY care that it works with MythTV and Mythbuntu at this point - I don't care if it works with 100 other types of software; I don't plan on using any of those). It would be different if there was some issue with TBS' reputation but so far I have yet to read anything truly negative about them.

Those USB DVB-S2 tuners are like the invisible devices as far as MythTV is concerned - if anyone has successfully used one with MythTV/Mythbuntu, they don't seem to be posting that information anywhere.
updatelee
The 6925 (and I think 5925 but cant confirm) support 16/32psk as well as ACM/VCM where other cards dont (there is an even more expensive commercial netup card that does as well I hear)

Have you tried Rick Caylor's site? There are lots of Linux users over there.

You can post on the TBS forum too, they have linux sections dedicated to each card they sell.

UDL
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
KAB
KAB
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
dfergie
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Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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Hmmm. Reason to get another toy for the KitchenAid.

Is it cheaper than store bought?

Is fresh or dried sage used?

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navychop
So do you use the plastic or metal sausage grinder? I'm assuming you use a mixer. I'm looking at attachments for my Kitchenaid.
dfergie
Have the beef version of the above mixed and covered in the fridge to soak up flavor, have a lb of ground pork will same with... (down to 2 rolls of previous chorizo batches)
dfergie
Mixed 1 lb pork same way, tested about 4 hours later, both good.
Meal prepped scrambled egg bowls with both and stashed in fridge, had beef version this morning… Good mix.
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So do you use the plastic or metal sausage grinder? I'm assuming you use a mixer. I'm looking at attachments for my Kitchenaid.
i have a cabelas carnivore 1 HP grinder worth the $$$ if you have it. i fried to many kitchenaids to count. ofcourse it was the el cheapo model
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made some chicken parm sausages and some bacon cheeseburger sausages and smoked whiskey bacon sausages
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Hmmm. Reason to get another toy for the KitchenAid.

Is it cheaper than store bought?

Is fresh or dried sage used?

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Who cares if it's cheaper than store bought. you do realize that ground beef is like hot dogs right lips and a**holes!!! you have no idea whats in it and what animal came from what carcass right :what. get a nice chuck roast!!!
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
Anony55
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.
T
They tell you to trash it and not to sell simply because they're phasing them out, not particularly because someone might be "confused" into buying it and not be able to activate. They tell people that in every case where they're not acting to get a box back, either from a replacement or service cancel.
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Corrado
Although my VIP211K hasn't been subscribed or connected to a dish in probably 5 years since canceling service, my 1 TB HDD full of programming still works fine.

Upon occasion I power it up to watch something I recorded as far back as 2010. The last time I had it going in September it even let me rescan the local OTA channels which I think it refused at some earlier time. I will use it until the day it fails but this topic makes me think some software download is responsible for current subscribers.
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zippyfrog
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Has anyone subscribed to NBA League Pass for 2026-27 and try to link their account to NBA.com to stream League Pass? I purchased it for 2026-27, and when I linked, I got a message saying success, but then I receive an error that my linked subscription does not include the preseason games for NBA League Pass. Is that how it has always been? I know satellite doesn't have the preseason games on the NBA League Pass channels, but I thought that I was able to stream the preseason once I linked my account on NBA.com?
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zippyfrog
I found my answer...when I log into the NBA app on my phone and try to watch, it gives me a more clear answer that it acknowledges I have paid for NBA League Pass from Dish and it is linked, but I need an "upgraded" subscription to League Pass for the preseason games. So I guess it is by design that Dish does not show the preseason games on League pass and that the contract Dish has signed for league pass is explicitly for the regular season games. (I know the description for League Pass says regular season games, but I thought that was only by satellite and the preseason would have worked)
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Darrell S
I plan on doing what I did last season. I ordered the more expensive arena feed version from the NBA website. It's worth it because you get to watch what's going on in the arena instead of just staring at the ad break slide on the Dish version. The main advantage to ordering from the website is you can go on a month by month basis and cancel if you get tired of it.
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
AZ.
AZ.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Jimbo
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
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Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
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Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.
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IF they go to 24 teams, and it looks like they will soon ....
Do we Really want Teams with 3 and 4 losses in the Playoffs ?
Is a 3-4 Loss team one thats able to win 4-5 more games against Top teams ?
Y
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.
A 12 team playoff net should catch any undefeated team. The 12 team playoff also exposed that rankings suck. I mean, we kind of knew already that the rankings weren't particularly reproducible, but we now have the empirical evidence that the rankings suck because judging who is the best among a mickey mouse scheduled football season isn't a rational endeavor. So the 12 team playoff ensures most teams that should make it, do, including the mid-major undefeated team. 8 teams should be able to work as well, but puts greater risk at OSU and Alabama missing the playoff... can't have that.

Which is the run up to my main problem with the 24 team set up is that it is designed to keep the OSU's and Alabama's from missing the playoff. The cartels are ensuring widespread participation for their own cartels to increase the monetary reward to themselves. It is fixing the system while not fixing the outcomes, merely making the regular season game outcomes virtually irrelevant. Sure, a bye for winning the conference would be nice, but we've already seen that byes aren't that influential.
We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
That is college football in a nutshell. Again, college football isn't about competition, it is about revenue. The entire setup is about making money, from regular season squash games against local jobbers like the WWF days to tax exempt bowl games.

And to add to the first world woes, the college football cartels have made being a College Football fan even more expensive... so they can get paid more.
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Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one 🤣
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
Foxbat
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
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Foxbat
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
OMG to freaking funny :biggrin
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

Not likely since that place closed down.
Foxbat
Not likely since that place closed down.
You're no fun.😑