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Sorry for the multiple questions in one.. figured it was cleaner that way!
Just moved again (hopefully for the last time!) and as part of the move they gave us a Genie. So we have: 1 HR34-700, 1 HR24-100, 1 HR24-500, 1 HR21-700, 1 H25-100, and 1 C31-700 (either the C31 or the H25 is going back, we're debating on wether the C31 or the H24+Slingbox 500 would be better for the guest room w/o coax).
Due to the large # of tuners, the installer mounted a SWM-16 switch outside, and inside in our On-Q wiring box in the bedroom closet he installed 2 8-port splitters and a power injector. So my two questions are:
1) As the On-Q is tight on space and there's no room for a UPS in there, is it possible to move the power injector to behind one of our IRDs on a UPS, as long as it's on a DC passthrough port on one of the two splitter? Does it matter which splitter? Right now there are 3 connections on each splitter and they're all on a regular (non DC passthrough) port.
2) Since MRV doesn't let you pick certain receivers to show in your playlists, I'd like to switch back from the DECA install that the installer did (using a normal CCK, not wireless) to GigE. Last time I did two separate VLANs (1 for the kids, 1 for the adults) w/ multicast routing disabled to stop them from discovering each other. That worked well. The only problem is I don't remember which receivers required BSF's, or if they all did. I think last time I played it safe and put a BSF on every ethernet-connected receiver. Is that still the best way?
I know Ethernet isn't supported and what not, I'm not too worried about that. Cat5e everywhere, HP ProCurve switches at the endpoints, all connected back to an Extreme Networks L3 switch and a Juniper Networks firewall, so bandwidth isn't a problem.
Thanks!
Just moved again (hopefully for the last time!) and as part of the move they gave us a Genie. So we have: 1 HR34-700, 1 HR24-100, 1 HR24-500, 1 HR21-700, 1 H25-100, and 1 C31-700 (either the C31 or the H25 is going back, we're debating on wether the C31 or the H24+Slingbox 500 would be better for the guest room w/o coax).
Due to the large # of tuners, the installer mounted a SWM-16 switch outside, and inside in our On-Q wiring box in the bedroom closet he installed 2 8-port splitters and a power injector. So my two questions are:
1) As the On-Q is tight on space and there's no room for a UPS in there, is it possible to move the power injector to behind one of our IRDs on a UPS, as long as it's on a DC passthrough port on one of the two splitter? Does it matter which splitter? Right now there are 3 connections on each splitter and they're all on a regular (non DC passthrough) port.
2) Since MRV doesn't let you pick certain receivers to show in your playlists, I'd like to switch back from the DECA install that the installer did (using a normal CCK, not wireless) to GigE. Last time I did two separate VLANs (1 for the kids, 1 for the adults) w/ multicast routing disabled to stop them from discovering each other. That worked well. The only problem is I don't remember which receivers required BSF's, or if they all did. I think last time I played it safe and put a BSF on every ethernet-connected receiver. Is that still the best way?
I know Ethernet isn't supported and what not, I'm not too worried about that. Cat5e everywhere, HP ProCurve switches at the endpoints, all connected back to an Extreme Networks L3 switch and a Juniper Networks firewall, so bandwidth isn't a problem.
Thanks!
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the power injector for this particular switch must be where it is initially installed i believe, I could be wrong, but i have a pretty strong feeling they go straight to the switch, and do not power the lnb. (as the lnb is powered by the switch) so moving it would not be an option without rerunning some lines to direct feed it. Also last i heard those power insterters did not like being plugged into powerstrips or ups's it is recommended to feed them directly to ac.
as for moving the wires around, i recommend AGAINST that as the genie is 5 tuners and all other dvrs are two, each of the 8 ways can only provide 8 "feeds" or channels as they are called, the genie uses 5 and each dvr uses 2, so i would guess the genie and 1 dvr and the h25 are on one, and the 3 other dvrs are on the other. It is very important these stay hooked up how they are, if you send more than "8 feeds" to 1 splitter (genie +dvr +dvr = 9) that would cause you missing channels and more problems. these setups are best installed by professionals or people who have a deep and clear understanding of the swm and directv system. Im sure we could walk you through what you need done if it really comes down to that, but it would be alot of trial and error and waiting for replies. if something went wrong. So i recommend against that.
MRV (internet)....
your correct with what your saying in theory, but the ethernet that is no longer approved (you are correct) also no longer works, directv shut it down. You can run a cat line into the hr34 and it will feed internet into the deca cloud, but you still need the receiver decas to get internet onto the receivers them selves. There is no way around this right now that I know of, again, someone correct me if Im wrong. Using the CCK (wired) is currently the preferred and most applicable type of internet install. kinda struggling for words there, but im trying to say what he did works the best in my experience anyway.
MRV(remote playlists)
your bsf idea kinda works, but per directv the only receivers that need bsfs are standard deff equipment. But you have the right idea, a bsf will block out the multiroom viewing, I have a genie and client in my apartment, and my downstairs neighbor has a h25, [ two seperate accounts, we are not stacking just to get that out there
] we both share the same dish as I wired the whole apartment for him when i moved in, and he liked having only 1 dish, I use a BSF to block his box from seeing my genie, so he doesnt have access to my recordings. If you do not want shared playlists at all (each dvr only views what it has recorded) you can put a bsf on everything but the genie and client and that will work. if you know which boxes go to which lines and you have access to rg6 jumpers and directv branded swim splitters you can do some minor rewiring in the onQ box to use bsfs to 'create' seperate clouds (all adult receivers on one splitter, all kids on the other) and put bsf(s) before the splitters (BUT REMEMBER THE "channels" or "FEEDS" stuff that i said before, you need to be posotive of what boxes go to what lines on the splitters.
(additional deca internet information)
im not posotive if the following information applies to the swm16 as well or only the swm32, so hutch im hoping you can correct me here, the two swm outputs from the switch outside (that lead to the two individual splitters) do not share the internet "injection" so the tech should have used a 2way backwards on your cck line to split the cck into 2 outputs and hooked one up to each leg of the swm. I know the swm34 needs this done with a 4way but im not posotive if the swm16 needs it too. So you may need to leave it set up as the tech installed it.
(possibly ignore the above paragraph, need another tech to confirm)
Bottom Line,
yea you can accomplish what you want to do, but is it really worth it? well thats also up to you, but theres alot more involved than just moving the power injector like you thought, so my recommendation as a retired D* Tech and current Comcast tech would be to leave it be.
(outside opinion)
when you said you might send back either the h25 or the client, personally i would send back the client as it robs a tuner from your genie when its live, leaving you with 4, but due to the great many recording tuners you have available, that may not be an issue in your case. The only thing you would really lose out on functionality wise by taking a h25 over a c31 is the ability to pause live tv, which you can do simply by hitting record and then pause instead, so long as the h25 is connected to at least one of the other dvrs in your mrv cloud. Both should be running you the same 6.00 monthly fee at this point.
as for moving the wires around, i recommend AGAINST that as the genie is 5 tuners and all other dvrs are two, each of the 8 ways can only provide 8 "feeds" or channels as they are called, the genie uses 5 and each dvr uses 2, so i would guess the genie and 1 dvr and the h25 are on one, and the 3 other dvrs are on the other. It is very important these stay hooked up how they are, if you send more than "8 feeds" to 1 splitter (genie +dvr +dvr = 9) that would cause you missing channels and more problems. these setups are best installed by professionals or people who have a deep and clear understanding of the swm and directv system. Im sure we could walk you through what you need done if it really comes down to that, but it would be alot of trial and error and waiting for replies. if something went wrong. So i recommend against that.
MRV (internet)....
your correct with what your saying in theory, but the ethernet that is no longer approved (you are correct) also no longer works, directv shut it down. You can run a cat line into the hr34 and it will feed internet into the deca cloud, but you still need the receiver decas to get internet onto the receivers them selves. There is no way around this right now that I know of, again, someone correct me if Im wrong. Using the CCK (wired) is currently the preferred and most applicable type of internet install. kinda struggling for words there, but im trying to say what he did works the best in my experience anyway.
MRV(remote playlists)
your bsf idea kinda works, but per directv the only receivers that need bsfs are standard deff equipment. But you have the right idea, a bsf will block out the multiroom viewing, I have a genie and client in my apartment, and my downstairs neighbor has a h25, [ two seperate accounts, we are not stacking just to get that out there
] we both share the same dish as I wired the whole apartment for him when i moved in, and he liked having only 1 dish, I use a BSF to block his box from seeing my genie, so he doesnt have access to my recordings. If you do not want shared playlists at all (each dvr only views what it has recorded) you can put a bsf on everything but the genie and client and that will work. if you know which boxes go to which lines and you have access to rg6 jumpers and directv branded swim splitters you can do some minor rewiring in the onQ box to use bsfs to 'create' seperate clouds (all adult receivers on one splitter, all kids on the other) and put bsf(s) before the splitters (BUT REMEMBER THE "channels" or "FEEDS" stuff that i said before, you need to be posotive of what boxes go to what lines on the splitters.(additional deca internet information)
im not posotive if the following information applies to the swm16 as well or only the swm32, so hutch im hoping you can correct me here, the two swm outputs from the switch outside (that lead to the two individual splitters) do not share the internet "injection" so the tech should have used a 2way backwards on your cck line to split the cck into 2 outputs and hooked one up to each leg of the swm. I know the swm34 needs this done with a 4way but im not posotive if the swm16 needs it too. So you may need to leave it set up as the tech installed it.
(possibly ignore the above paragraph, need another tech to confirm)
Bottom Line,
yea you can accomplish what you want to do, but is it really worth it? well thats also up to you, but theres alot more involved than just moving the power injector like you thought, so my recommendation as a retired D* Tech and current Comcast tech would be to leave it be.
(outside opinion)
when you said you might send back either the h25 or the client, personally i would send back the client as it robs a tuner from your genie when its live, leaving you with 4, but due to the great many recording tuners you have available, that may not be an issue in your case. The only thing you would really lose out on functionality wise by taking a h25 over a c31 is the ability to pause live tv, which you can do simply by hitting record and then pause instead, so long as the h25 is connected to at least one of the other dvrs in your mrv cloud. Both should be running you the same 6.00 monthly fee at this point.
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I did that as well, putting one in my Work truck with the antenna kit, trying to do it so WORK didn't see it.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
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A continuation of a thread from the pub, just general discussion of AI.
Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc
Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc
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Oops.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one
Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll callThey ought to have fun with this…
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Please post your remote make/model here and any details of your issue. We are looking to collect as many examples as possible. I may reach out to you for your receiver number, but please do not post it here.
If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.
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If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.
Thanks!
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I was having similar issues last night while watching and recording the NLCS game on 148. When I tried resuming the game at one point the screen went blank and I couldn't get my H3 to respond to any remote commands. Eventually the Hopper went to a HD channel but still no remote response. After a while the Hopper went into a re-boot cycle. This happened at least 3 times. I was using an IR universal remote only.
A little frustrating to have the game broken up like that but at least the Brewers won
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