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Last reply Nov 6, 2013 · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Apple iPhone 5s vs 5c on launch weekend: flagship outsells plastic by a factor of three

More Apples off the tree.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...outsells-plastic-by-a-factor-of-three_id47671

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mike123abc

Oct 11, 2013

I wonder if the 4s is going to live out the year? With the 5C already dropping fast in price ($45 now at Walmart), how long until it is free with contract? I am sure Apple gets a better margin of the 4s for free than the 5c, but the competition might require them to rethink that strategy.

dfergie

Oct 11, 2013

5S 16 GB Silver should be waiting for me when I get home Monday night... C's just looked too flimsy, plus the extras for the S and it just "felt" better...

rockymtnhigh

Oct 11, 2013

mike123abc said:
I wonder if the 4s is going to live out the year? With the 5C already dropping fast in price ($45 now at Walmart), how long until it is free with contract? I am sure Apple gets a better margin of the 4s for free than the 5c, but the competition might require them to rethink that strategy.

It boggles my mind that Verizon was willing to pay me $210 for my 32gb 4S.

But remember, Walmart is selling those 5Cs at a loss. AND there are a lot of people who don't want to have to switch ALL of their accessories as the 5 and 5S require. All those cables, and docks. Plus, its free. So, who knows.

dishfan82

Oct 11, 2013

rockymtnhigh said:
It boggles my mind that Verizon was willing to pay me $210 for my 32gb 4S.

But remember, Walmart is selling those 5Cs at a loss. AND there are a lot of people who don't want to have to switch ALL of their accessories as the 5 and 5S require. All those cables, and docks. Plus, its free. So, who knows.

I was low balled on my iPhone 4S. People on Craigslist want iPhones for 100.00. Then eBay I get buyers sending me a message telling me I'm charging too much money. You should get a lot more for that 32gb version. Most iPhones on eBay either have a cracked screen, scratches, water damage or a bad esn and they still sell.

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satjay

Oct 14, 2013

Best buys offer for my iPhone 4 was 100.00, I was happy with that (16gb)

TheForce

Nov 6, 2013

News on added production for iPhone and iPad

Self explanatory-

Apple signs up contractors to ramp up iPhone production
7:24a ET November 6, 2013 (MarketWatch)
Apple signs up contractors to ramp up iPhone production

By Lorraine Luk

HONG KONG -- Apple Inc. is adding new contract manufacturing partners in Asia to boost production of its smartphones and tablets, people familiar with the supply chain said, as the technology company tries to ensure adequate supply to meet consumer demand.

Later this year, Apple (AAPL) will outsource manufacturing of the cheaper version of its latest iPhone, the iPhone 5C, to Wistron Corp. , a Taiwan-based contract maker that currently produces smartphones for BlackBerry Ltd. (RIMM) and Nokia Corp., the people said. Apple also plans to add Compal Communications Inc. to assemble its iPad Mini tablet starting next year, the people said. Also read: Apple beefs up margins on iPad Air, teardown says.

Apple is broadening its supplier base as its main assembler, Hon Hai Precision Industry Co. , is focusing on producing the high-end iPhone 5S, which is currently in short supply, the people said. Hon Hai, also known as Foxconn, has also been under scrutiny for its labor practices, creating a headache for Apple, they said.

According to J.P. Morgan analyst Alvin Kwock, the high return rate of defective iPhone 5 smartphones also led to tensions between Apple and Hon Hai over which company would be responsible for repair-work costs.

(An expanded version of this report appears at WSJ:com http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303309504579181282222544024?mod=mktw.)
-Lorraine Luk; 415-439-6400; AskNewswires@dowjones.com

In other news Apple continues in it's share buyback plan- Current shares outstanding as of today is 899.7 Million. There was no increase to the dividend being paid to share holders, ex dividend date today. Apple did announce last week it would address the topic of faster return of capital to shareholders at it's board meeting after the first of the year. It's cash build-up is increasing at a faster pace due to it's continued out performance in sales, world wide increase in markets, low dividend rate of only 2.32% at yesterday's close of $522.40/share. Carl Icahn, currently, continues to increase his holdings in the company currently at 4.25%. He has actively campaigned on behalf of the stock holders to increase the share buyback and dividend. He has publicly commented on his monthly meetings with CEO Tim Cook about share buybacks and with ever increasing holdings, would accept 2 seats on the board to swing some weight in what Apple does with it's cash pile that is growing at ever increasing rate. Not all share holders agree. Many want Apple to accelerate it's growth potential through expanded R&D and M&A. The problem Apple has is the majority of it's cash is outside the US which can't be brought back into the US under current IRS tax rules. So, current plans exhaust US based cash that has already been taxed at US rates and borrow money at current ridiculously low rates to buy back shares. Icahn wants Apple to expand its borrowing to pay for increased buyback of $150B in stock. This plan could put the stock to $1250 a share! Like myself, Carl's basis in the company is in the low $420's.

Carl Icahn is a double edged sword. He is an investor with self interest. As he gains power in the company through increased ownership, he will likely get his way and when the stock hit's 3X his investment he could pull out leaving the company in a flash crash. As a stock holder and a fan of Apple products one must keep a close watch on Carl Icahn's activities. See what he did with Netflix and you can see what he might do with Apple. The last thing Carl is concerned with is how happy the people are with Apple products.

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meStevo

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Last reply A moment ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Volcanic Eruptions

Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.

Monitoring Data for Kīlauea

For more information on how electronic tiltmeters and GPS receivers help monitor the deformation of Kīlauea volcano, see the HVO Deformation page.

www.usgs.gov

View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4

Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.

View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ

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meStevo

Oct 1, 2026

View: https://youtu.be/tv37YPVfHME

Gemini summary:

In this video from Shawn Willsey: Geology Explained, geology professor Shawn Willsey details rapid subsurface and surface changes at Kīlauea volcano in Hawaii:

Signs of a Magma Intrusion (Dike): Summit tiltmeters recorded an unprecedented, rapid inflation spike of around 45 microradians [04:00 Opens in a new window ], accompanied by a dramatic surge of over 100 shallow earthquakes within 24 hours (peaking at a magnitude 3.4) [01:44 Opens in a new window ]. The deformation indicates that magma is intruding in an east-west orientation beneath the southern caldera/Halemaʻumaʻu region [01:16 Opens in a new window ].
No Rift Zone Migration: Tilt and seismic data confirm magma is remaining confined to the summit area rather than traveling down the East Rift Zone [02:40 Opens in a new window ].
Structural Pathways: Willsey notes that pre-existing faults and fractures expanded during the 2018 caldera collapse [08:32 Opens in a new window ]. Because these fracture zones remain unsealed, magma can move and mobilize toward the surface much faster than before [10:17 Opens in a new window ].
Potential Outcomes: The intrusion could stall underground without erupting, or it could feed a new east-west fissure eruption inside the summit caldera, similar to the September 2023 event [02:47 Opens in a new window ].
Shift to Dome Overflows: Webcam footage from overnight reveals repeated pulses of fluid lava overflowing the spatter cone at the North Vent [11:42 Opens in a new window ]. Occurring roughly every 20 to 50 minutes and lasting several minutes each [12:36 Opens in a new window ], these cyclic overflows suggest Kīlauea may be transitioning away from high-fountaining episodes toward regular surface overflows [14:54 Opens in a new window ].

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meStevo

Oct 8, 2026

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Foxbat

Today at 8:50 AM

Foxbat

A moment ago

Oooo, quite the show now. All three vents have doming and overflows. The cone that built up around the North vent lost its upper quarter at 02:50 Oct 17 and is now spewing lava at a healthy rate. Don't know if I would say it's a fountain, but it's close.

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Ham Radio 2.0

3 minutes ago · posted in Ham Radio 2.0

Military grade antenna for your off-grid setup #hamradio #satcom #offgrid

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Van

Last reply 7 minutes ago · posted in What's Cooking?

Whats for breakfast?

Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.

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dfergie

Oct 9, 2026

Egg, sausage and cheese sandwich between bread toasted in butter in skillet... Chocolate milk.

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dfergie

Sunday at 11:17 AM

dfergie said:
Egg, sausage and cheese sandwich between bread toasted in butter in skillet... Chocolate milk.

Add fresh hash browns, delete chocolate for milk with a slice of bacon.

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TRG

Sunday at 12:06 PM

Bacon, eggs, hash browns and toast. Coffee.

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TRG

Monday at 2:11 PM

Wound up at the Waffle House this morning. Got the two egg breakfast with coffee.

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dfergie

Monday at 6:08 PM

Speaking of waffles, I'm going to put my mini waffle iron on stove so I'll remember to make waffles in the morning... Had some last week, been awhile.

dfergie

7 minutes ago

Dos cackleberrys over easy on top of 2 corned beef hash patties fried in skillet... Chocolate milk.

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply 9 minutes ago · posted in What's Cooking?

Homemade Breakfast Sausage

Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...

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navychop

Today at 8:14 AM

Bob Evans Sage.

reubenray

Today at 8:41 AM

navychop said:
Bob Evans Sage.

I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.

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dfergie

Today at 8:45 AM

Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 8:47 AM

reubenray said:
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.

amazon maybe :what

slow_poke_pete

Today at 8:52 AM

reubenray said:
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.

owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!

slow_poke_pete

Today at 8:54 AM

dfergie said:
Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)

id'e rather make my own vs store bought.

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reubenray

28 minutes ago

slow_poke_pete said:
owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!

Especially when I can get a two pound roll of Jimmy Dean from Sam's Club for $7.38.

dfergie

9 minutes ago

They run Owens at $3.99 for lb and $7.99 a couple times a month at some grocery stores here, I actually was wrong, just checked a pork sirloin roast it was $1.99 a lb. (cooked it yesterday so pack was in trash)

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Today at 9:22 AM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

AI Model Poisoned: Uncovering Hidden Dangers #shorts

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Today at 9:22 AM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Club TWiT: Mikah's Crafting Corner #25 - Ray Gun Papercraft Part 6

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 9:02 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Smoke! Smoke! Smoke! (That Cigarette) -- Tex Williams

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Don't Do Me Like That - Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers

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I LIKE It LIKE THAT-The Dave Clark Five

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Five O'Clock World - The Vogues

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Six O'Clock News - John Prine

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TheRatPatrol

Last reply Today at 7:40 AM · posted in TV Shows

NCIS

Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?

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Jimbo

Monday at 11:41 PM

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Jimbo

Tuesday at 6:25 PM

Jimbo said:
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

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Howard Simmons

Thursday at 1:19 PM

Jimbo said:
Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

Tony as the director.

Jimbo

Thursday at 2:13 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Tony as the director.

Would you rather have LaRoche ???

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dfergie

Thursday at 4:37 PM

I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...

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Howard Simmons

Yesterday at 11:30 AM

Jimbo said:
Would you rather have LaRoche ???

No. Bring in someone new.

Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 12:50 PM

Howard Simmons said:
No. Bring in someone new. Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.

KAB

Today at 6:18 AM

I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

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Jimbo

Today at 7:40 AM

KAB said:
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Today at 3:02 AM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network