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TheForce
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Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
Background- Wife has an iphone5 16GB model. She had 1 GB of memory remaining so it was enough but was beginning to run sluggish for the past few months. Then this past week, she made the big mistake of letting our 6 yr old grandson "Play" with the phone. He figured out how to download games from the App store. Yes, she gave the kid our app store password. He downloaded 35 games! and the phone popped up the out of memory notice. Now she can't send text or even make phone calls.

So I try to free up memory but even eliminating all those games, the phone only freed up about 300Mb. Then I dumped all the photos and videos and managed to recover another GB. So what was taking up all my 16GB?

I connected her phone to our imac with itunes using the apple lightnig USB cable and saw it had 9GB of "Other" Went ahead and did a backup of the phone to our iMAC which didn't take too long but in the meantime I researched how to free up the memory and all the online suggestions were things I already tried.

So I figured that I have to try to start over like the phone just arrived new. I did a restore of my backup and it took about 3 hours but while this recovered my apps and photos and videos as well as some documents, email etc etc. I still had to initiate the phone's passwords and pair the BT with our peripherals like car connection and redo the Apple watch manually. The whole process took 5 hours! In the end, the "Other" was down to a very small amount and the total free memory was now 12.35GB and the phone was as fast as it was when brand new.

Is there an easier way to get rid of "Other" memory hogs on an iphone besides having to start all over? I did a little searching on this and the best I could determine was restore to factory new is the only way. The "Other" is a huge collection of trash files including old deleted images and videos that aren't really deleted from the iOS memory, just no longer visible. One Apple hater claimed this was a nefarious scheme by Apple to make customers by a fatter iphone when they upgrade so it will last longer and allow the Other to expand to 30-80 GB and higher before running out. What non- techie will spend 5 -6 hours restoring their phone? They will just think it's time to upgrade because the older one just runs slow.


OK, so now My wife's phone is like new, except for one more problem. How about all those games? After about an hour, I saw those games show up on her phone again. Sh!t! here we go again. I delete them all using two different methods and they still returned. I'm getting really pissed now. Can't find anything on line to help. It finally dawned on me that the iphone was downloading from the cloud, so I killed icloud access. Still they returned. Digging deep into system settings I see a place to deny access to auto download of apps music videos etc from the itunes store and app store. So I shut that off. Well, that killed the constant reappearance of those apps.

Is there anyway for me to turn back on the auto updates but prevent all those purchased apps games from downloading automatically? It seems they are doing that because they are now in my purchase history and no way to delete specific purchases from my history in the app store. A suggestion was to delete my itunes account and start a new one. Not going to do that.

Oh and FYI- with each reappearance of those games and me deleting them caused the "Other" to grow another couple hundred Mb in size. They weren't really deleted, just hidden from view.
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Ilya
Don, have you identified which apps consume most of the data? The video shows how to do that.
My suggestion wasn't to delete the files within the apps, but rather to re-install the apps that take most of the data space.
There is a big difference between the two. If you are just deleting the data files within the app, you are trusting the app to release the previously occupied data storage. Some apps won't bother. On the other hand, when you are re-installing the app, the iOS itself is reallocating the storage. So at least in theory, this should be more reliable.
But as I said, the full reinstall, is the best way to reclaim the space.
TheForce
My suggestion wasn't to delete the files within the apps, but rather to re-install the apps that take most of the data space.

Yes I tried both and neither reduced the size of the "Other" category. Only the data and apps categories were reduced when the app was deleted. And, I'm sure you are aware, not all apps can be deleted. Only those I added. The OS apps have no option to delete.

I understand what you are explaining about the reallocating of the data space and the app space and that is handled as you said but it still does not address "Other" space in memory that I can only recover with a reinstall process. Saying it is the "bast way", implies there are other options and I'm saying none of those options address the "Other" space recovery.
Juan
another article from a tech blog..Its the app cache that has to be cleared

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3919973?start=15&tstart=0
TheForce
Thanks juan but once again these cleaning routines do not address the "Other" mystery memory hog in iOS. They are discussing the app cache which is easily cleaned as described in all the referenced procedures. There are thousands of posted cache cleaning instructions, all pretty much offering the same elementary procedure to free up tiny bits of app cache memory. None, except the Backup / restore and redo all the settings, seem to work to recover the big problem which is that "Other" memory loss.

I did like the one suggestion that recommended a "spring cleaning once a year to keep iOS running at top performance levels. But, I'm afraid that Spring Cleaning has to be done as a backup / restore to be 100% effective.

I also feel that when the "Other" takes up lots of space it only restricts storage capacity of media files and not speed until the "Other" gets so large, less than 1GB of space is left. When the iOS has less than 1GB free, then speed begins to deteriorate rapidly. In my wife's phone when her's got down to 1GB, I deleted all the installed apps, and deleted the cache and history in the iOS apps like Safari, and erased all emails, pictures, and videos, and pretty much everything I could think of. This freed up another 500Mb only but I still had over 11GB in the "Other"


I have a much better understanding of windows and DOS than iOS. The problem that slows down Windows, is mostly a cluttered registry file and there are tools to deal with that. I use them on a weekly basis. Also, a fragmented hard drive can cause slow down. But defragging a hard drive is a rare need for me since I have switched SSD's now. Defragging SSD's is not recommended and can shorten the life of the drive. Instead, a better way is to copy all files to another drive and reformat the SSD. Then copy the files back to the SSD which will then lay the files to the drive in a contiguous sequence.


Until Apple offers up an OS procedure to deal with "Other" I will plan to do the backup/restore lengthy procedure as necessary. Most likely, we will be upgrading my wife's iphone 5 to the current model next summer when her upgrade deal is available. For now, her phone is running like a brand new phone and we're happy. I'm just disappointed in that this issue appears to be a design flaw in the OS that Apple chooses to keep.
Foxbat
Part of the problem is once you purchase an App, it is in your collection of purchased goods. I have old apps that I bought back in my pre-iPhone days when I had an iPod Touch. Since I use iTunes to sync my iPhone I can select which app I want on my iPhone. You do have to clear the option on the iPhone to download missing apps from the App Store so they don't automatically re-install.
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· posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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dfergie
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Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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TRG
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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
I've been retired since October. It was very strange at first. But I'm loving it now.
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Creamy flat chicken enchiladas with green chile, beans and rice.

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Layered Spicy Dorito / chili cheese Frito pie casserole…real sugar Pepsi
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I had a very unusual but delicious 1/4lb hotdog with cream cheese, raspberry preserves and chopped Hatch green chile. It is an unlikely combination but it works.


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N5XZS
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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N5XZS
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2
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comfortably_numb
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet :)
N5XZS
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. :rolleyes: :hatsoff2
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According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

primestar31
According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

Many of these in my DMA are on cell towers, so don't always reach very far because the towers aren't very high.
zippyfrog
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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zippyfrog
However, when I make a change (tried to add the Columbian pack for $2 so I could generate my bill) and there is a new line - it says "Access for TV" - whereas previously that line item was not there. I hope they aren't charging $5.00 for the initial TV now...

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T
Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
zippyfrog
Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
Possibly. In theory, $9 of the base pack has a rental fee built in. But now is this $5 a chance to get a little more? I don't know for sure. According to chat, it is a glitch and will be resolved in a timely manner, but we shall see. Part of my thinks there is a going to be a new charge, whether it is now or this fall. Here in Illinois, the law requires we are given 30 days notice of any fee changes, but I have not been given anything.

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MikeD-C05
These fees are why streaming has caught on so well across the country and DISH is losing subs each quarter. Soon won't be enough subs to be profitable.
T
Does cable charge box rent?
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Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
With the 1st Quarter Report just released, Dish lost another 180,000, now at 4.84 Million.

Sling now at 1.79 million subscribers, down approximately 190,000.

For comparison, YouTube TV now has about double the subscribers of Dish and Sling combined.

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fmj77
I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.
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Bruce
I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
Y
$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.
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T
I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?
T
$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.


1gbit up and down here from att start out great was suppose to be $60 for life of service, with years time it went back up to $80 I complained about they gave us $49 for year which about to end, I Wonder what prices will be when it "up" I in no way like ATT fiber service there DNS that are hardcode and unchange able in the router are some WORSE DNS I ever used. you know how much of pain it is to change DNS setting on EVERY single wireless device...
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mwdxer1
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
I dropped Dish a couple years back after having them for 25 years. The pricing got higher and after we got high speed internet, I watched it less and less. It got to the point all I watched was TCM for classic movies. Many of them are on You Tube now and a Premium subscription is $14 a month. A far cry of the $100 a month was paying with AT180, Supers, and locals. I get locals OTA anyway. I took down the dish several months ago and tossed it. I owned all my my equipment, so nothing to return. Do I miss a traditional cable type service? No way. If I want one I have all of the free live streaming with Roku, the Fire Stick, as well as Google TV. Right now as I type this, I am watching episodes of "The Midnight Special" from 1976 on You Tube, ad free. Dish was fine for many years. I do not regret buying the equipment and installing it myself (No installers in 1999). I enjoyed Dish for many years. My thoughts, Dish & Direct will be forced to merge in time, or they both will be gone. Even cable companies are getting out of TV. Some are only selling the internet and phone packages.
tanman
I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?
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nelson61
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
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MikeD-C05
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
In my area we get 2 news feeds spread over 4 local stations.
ABC/NBC (TEGNA)
Same news cast simulcast over both channels.

CBS/Fox (Sinclair)
Same news casters at 5pm, 6pm, 10pm.
Fox shows an hour at 9pm but same news casters.
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