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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I currently have a Dish 512 receiver that is located outside my room so I have a UHF remote to control it. I purchased a new TV and it does not have the Svideo connection only HDMI and the AV input, when I connect to the AV input it looks terrible, everyone is telling me that I need to connect with HDMI, but there is no HDMI on the 512, called DISH and they want to send a tech out and replace everything and make me sign up for a 2year contract and some other fees. Can't I just get a 612 receiver and connect it to my existing dish and cables? I only care about the basic channels, not looking for HD just looking for a decent picture. Thanks
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TheKrell
Do I understand that the svideo output of the 512 looks good on your previous TV, but the A/V output does not? S-video and A/V signals should be very close in PQ, with svideo being a little better. If the old TV shows a lousy picture as well on the A/V output, there is something wrong with the 512 that you didn't notice before. If you never tried that configuration, but only plugged in the A/V output to your new HDTV, then we don't know whether the 512 is at fault or the analog inputs and scaler on your new TV.

By the way, I have a $98 32" HDTV in my daughter's bedroom hooked up to a 612. The scaler in that TV is really crappy. But by setting the 612 to the panel's native resolution and letting the 612 do the scaling, the result is pretty darn good.
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Do I understand that the svideo output of the 512 looks good on your previous TV, but the A/V output does not? S-video and A/V signals should be very close in PQ, with svideo being a little better. If the old TV shows a lousy picture as well on the A/V output, there is something wrong with the 512 that you didn't notice before. If you never tried that configuration, but only plugged in the A/V output to your new HDTV, then we don't know whether the 512 is at fault or the analog inputs and scaler on your new TV.

By the way, I have a $98 32" HDTV in my daughter's bedroom hooked up to a 612. The scaler in that TV is really crappy. But by setting the 612 to the panel's native resolution and letting the 612 do the scaling, the result is pretty darn good.


What if I just switch out the 512 with the 612 will I be able to get HD content or do I need to switch out the dish to receive HD? My old TV was a 1st gen Plasma so it was not capable of HD, and the problem with my new TV is that the picture was a smaller square on the screen then when I told it to stretch it looks awful. Thanks Jay
harshness
What if I just switch out the 512 with the 612 will I be able to get HD content or do I need to switch out the dish to receive HD?
You would need to subscribe to HD service to use the ViP612 at all. You can buy a ViP612 and a new dish outright and install them yourself if you want to avoid the commitment but you'll get roped back in if you have DISH install anything.

An alternative is to locate someone locally to install everything for you. It is up to you to decide whether the installation cost is worth avoiding the commitment.
ChadT41
You can purchase a 612 and avoid the commitment, but choosing to upgrade to match your TV Would be on you... You should still have the availability to use the RCA cables as I have yet to come across an actual TV set that doesn't support that.
TheKrell
You would need to subscribe to HD service to use the ViP612 at all.

Are you sure about that? I seem to remember many HD receivers being used for accounts w/o HD service, and they get SD channels and HD freeviews and HD locals, but that's it.
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ChadT41
As can I. Plenty of people have the MPEG4 equipment with the smart or welcome pack, neither of which have the HD add on availibility.
harshness
You should still have the availability to use the RCA cables as I have yet to come across an actual TV set that doesn't support that.
Rest assured, TVs that have only an HDMI connection are out there. Since few use tape-based camcorders anymore, the composite inputs are all but wasted unless you're a classic console gamer.

It should be noted that most solutions that convert from one cabling format to another will NOT survive HDCP.
harshness
Are you sure about that? I seem to remember many HD receivers being used for accounts w/o HD service, and they get SD channels and HD freeviews and HD locals, but that's it.
At one time, there was an exemption for those who were required to have MPEG4 equipment to get their local channels. Perhaps the exceptions have expanded to those that simply don't want HD programming (but I wouldn't bet the farm on it).
ChadT41
At one time, there was an exemption for those who were required to have MPEG4 equipment to get their local channels. Perhaps the exceptions have expanded to those that simply don't want HD programming (but I wouldn't bet the farm on it).
HD service has never been required for an HD receiver. When you first upgrade it is, but it is nothing more than an add on programming package.
pattykay
HD service has never been required for an HD receiver. When you first upgrade it is, but it is nothing more than an add on programming package.
I remember when there was an HD access fee of $6 per month just for having an HD receiver on your account if you didn't subscribe to an HD package. This was on top of the regular $5 per month access fee for not subscribing to a base package. It ticked me off at the time because I only got the HD receiver to get the national feed of CBS HD, and then, right after I got the HD receiver, Dish took away CBS HD because of the distant networks lawsuit, and I still had to pay the $6 per month for zero HD channels. (Well, they might have still had the fish tank channel.) Later, around the time that Dish launched HD locals in my market, Dish eliminated the HD access fee and introduced the Locals Only package, which bundled the locals and the access fee into a single line item and actually lowered my bill. Now, I have Welcome Pack with Columbus, OH locals, which is a Western Arc market with SD feeds available on the same satellite as the HD feeds, so I can confirm that HD receivers are allowed without a subscription to HD programming, even in markets that do not require all HD equipment.
As can I. Plenty of people have the MPEG4 equipment with the smart or welcome pack, neither of which have the HD add on availibility.
Having said all of the above, I still wish there was an HD add-on for Welcome Pack.
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dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
meStevo
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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meStevo
I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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Foxbat
"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
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"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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Howard Simmons
"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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meStevo
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
· posted in TV Shows
I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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White Wedding - Billy Idol
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White Christmas - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty White Boy - Foreigner
Bobby
Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson
osu1991
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
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Howard Simmons

Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Former member 208119
Class action.
a hopper 3 with 6 firesticks and or if you wanna spend even more money apple tv's
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Nebugeater
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
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Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
Foxbat
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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zipping right along here
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
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Foxbat
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
OMG to freaking funny :biggrin
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comfortably_numb
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

Not likely since that place closed down.
TheRatPatrol
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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dfergie
I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Howard Simmons
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.