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Troch77
Last reply · posted in General Home Theater Equipment
Well my 40 inch 3 year old Samsung LED decided to start losing Pixels.
So far its one whole line from top to bottom.

Not catastrophic yet, but it certainly has Jump started my next TV search.
I don't really care about 4k, But If Im going to buy a new TV, I might as well go 4K.

So what Im looking for is anything $500 or less ( could push up higher depending.)
43 inch and up.
4K smart,
120hz
3 + HDMI

No more Samsung tvs.
I have Magnavox tvs out last both of my Samsung TVs

I'd like a Sony, but they are a little to High for what I want to spend on a 4K tv.

I've been looking at LG models 6030,6100
And Vizio E and M series.

But I would definitely listen to other suggestions.
Thanks again.
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camo
I really like the Sony X930D they have a gorgeous picture. One thing about Sony TV's they can be great investments because they don't just abandon the TV. Here is quote from article I found.

Quote: the good news that Sony does not leave older models to wither, as is the norm in the industry.

Samsung's example in 2017 on the 3rd generation Tizen, but older models have not been updates. LG is the 2017 generation 3.5 and older models have not been updates. Firefox OS in Panasonic is completely abandoned.

Link: http://flatpanels.dk/nyhed.php?subaction=showfull&id=1484294601
T
I've read at credible sources like Vizio owners forums that Vizio updates are often for things that don't work right and product released with known bugs to make marketing deadlines and often the updates don't work either .

I read the CMS is usually broken on a lot of Viszio TV product and it's best not to calibrate those TV's because of that ...................., IMO you can't make a silk purse out of a Tier two brand product with firmware updates and they don't make TV's at Vizio anyway they are a Vizio OD marketer without an HDR 1000 spec. TV ,I call them at best slightly above blue light special rubbish noting thats just my opinion and I can repair TV's at the board level .:eek

I always buy tier one brand sets at Sony ,Samsung and LG .

OTOH Sony TV updated the 2015 Sony 4K WCG HDR products to upgraded full HDR processing ,HDMI 2.0a , HEVC and VP 9 the same Android 6 platform and ultimately the same HDR /SDR processing and also the backlight control processing as 2016 Sony product as applicable and some of the 2017 Sony product .

Sony will be making Android 7 ( Andoid N ) a 2015 to 2017 Sony Android platform update and thgey have a new TV android software update channel now for the TV's for new firmware features and so on going back to 2015 product while the apps update automatically .

All that makes a good argument for the usual Sony Tax :clapping
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Sony also firmware upgraded the 2015 Sony XBR 850C here for better HDR /SDR processing and significantly more backlight brightness to match the 2016 same product tier

That said I think the 2016 product smart money for a not too spendy real decent TV is the 4K SDR Samsung KU 6290 and virtually the same Samsung KU 6300 that just adds bluetooth and for 4K wide color Gamut full HDR the Samsung KS 8000 . :clapping
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I really like the Sony X930D they have a gorgeous picture. One thing about Sony TV's they can be great investments because they don't just abandon the TV. Here is quote from article I found.

Quote: the good news that Sony does not leave older models to wither, as is the norm in the industry.

Samsung's example in 2017 on the 3rd generation Tizen, but older models have not been updates. LG is the 2017 generation 3.5 and older models have not been updates. Firefox OS in Panasonic is completely abandoned.

Link: http://flatpanels.dk/nyhed.php?subaction=showfull&id=1484294601
That's a terrific TV and the de facto decent Sony 2016 4K HDR product since they screwed the pooch with an IPS panel in the X850C .
They won't be doing that again with the 2017 X850E /X900E :p

I have the 2015 4K HDR Sony XBR X850C in here and it's way more real decent for the spend now after the Android 6 platform and firmware SDR /HDR processing upgrades and more backlight NITS that made it a same brightness and a better TV than the 2016 X850C product .:p

I'm contemplating the Sony X1 xtreme processing 4K HDR X930E or a Sony OLED or 9ZD or 2019 LGD OLED TADF emitter panels in a Sony or LG OLED TV if they take care of the usual OLED issues and or if the usual Sony tax comes down on the Z1C OLED or the 9ZD otherwise X930E may be the TV to upgrade the X850C in here if it shakes out to look that better which is entirely plausible :clapping
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Troch77
I've read at credible sources like Vizio owners forums that Vizio updates are often for things that don't work right and product released with known bugs to make marketing deadlines and often the updates don't work either .

I read the CMS is usually broken on a lot of Viszio TV product and it's best not to calibrate those TV's because of that ...................., IMO you can't make a silk purse out of a Tier two brand product with firmware updates and they don't make TV's at Vizio anyway they are a Vizio OD marketer without an HDR 1000 spec. TV ,I call them at best slightly above blue light special rubbish noting thats just my opinion and I can repair TV's at the board level .:eek

I always buy tier one brand sets at Sony ,Samsung and LG .

OTOH Sony TV updated the 2015 Sony 4K WCG HDR products to upgraded full HDR processing ,HDMI 2.0a , HEVC and VP 9 the same Android 6 platform and ultimately the same HDR /SDR processing and also the backlight control processing as 2016 Sony product as applicable and some of the 2017 Sony product .

Sony will be making Android 7 ( Andoid N ) a 2015 to 2017 Sony Android platform update and thgey have a new TV android software update channel now for the TV's for new firmware features and so on going back to 2015 product while the apps update automatically .

All that makes a good argument for the usual Sony Tax :clapping
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Sony also firmware upgraded the 2015 Sony XBR 850C here for better HDR /SDR processing and significantly more backlight brightness to match the 2016 same product tier

That said I think the 2016 product smart money for a not too spendy real decent TV is the 4K SDR Samsung KU 6290 and virtually the same Samsung KU 6300 that just adds bluetooth and for 4K wide color Gamut full HDR the Samsung KS 8000 . :clapping
Then you always over pay .
Because Vizio kicks the crap out of Sony and Samsung in just about every review.

And Samsung is unimpressive to say the least.
Its an over marketed brand that fall well short of my expectations.
Always has.
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Troch77
Actually mods you can close this thread.

I've already thrown my 2nd Samsung tv in under 3 years in my dumpster.
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Then you always over pay .
Because Vizio kicks the crap out of Sony and Samsung in just about every review.
And Samsung is unimpressive to say the least.
Its an over marketed brand that fall well short of my expectations. Always has.

Samsung TV products at one point in history would maybe fit the Vizio or worse cheap door buster market below Vizio , some of them were rubbish and the DLP they and everybody made were rubbish anyway .

Samung had the bad cap formulation thing more than Sony with better quality Japanese Nichicon and Rubycon caps they still use but none of them are defect free and the spendy Sony SXRD LCoS was a bust outside of its decent 1080p Picture, I got rid of mine before the light engine blew up.like a lot of them did .

My low spend for Sony , 1080p 2013 Sony Bravia is rubbish I had to replace the LED stips in it myself at 2.2 years for the sunroom /day room out back where I banished the low bright 6 bit + frc panel 2013 Sony Bravia rubbish unlike my Sony XBR TV's since 1993 that never ever broke before they busted outta here and some at 12-14 years ,

The often on 2013 LG and 2013 Samsung here and this 4K HDR Sony XBR been golden so far they have the Costco squaretrade warranty anyway No TV including this Sony 4K HDR been in here more than 2 years since 2009 and I'm contemplating the next upgrade but it needs to bwe a wow upgrade and that wouldn't be a Vizio downgrade in here :clapping

Don't want Vizio ,never did and don't need one my unencumbered spending what I want on budget is not constrained to those which would be thier markets and thats fine for them and the buyers they are significantly better than many low spend doorbusters .

I will probably put a Sony OLED or Sony 9ZD in here anyway and put this 2015 4K WCG HDR Sony LCD in another room

OTOH Vizio market is isn't my market like the Sony XBR 4K HDR TV or range topping Samsung 64f8500 plasma here and maybe Sony OLED or 9ZD but not below a Sony 2017 930E .

Vizio are fine for some but not so much the cognoscenti and so on .

Mostly only wholly biased to price weighted reviews favor Vizio over the tier one product even Cnet's David katzmaier and Digital Trends freely admits that weighting for Vizio ZZZZZZ:shh

Vizio doesn't make TV's and don't seem to have a plausible 4K WCG HDR TV in feb. 2017 yet and they seem to be too cheap or wrong headed to put RF tuners in a lot of thier best TV's . Any smart TV platform can run off a Tard pad or phone now anyway ? :nana

The business case study is Vizio recently got bought by Le Eco that makes better TV's anyway and an argument making the rounds is Le Eco may not invest CAPEX in Visio to significantly update thier dated ho hum product line beyond a ( *pending ) NASDAQ IPO and that expense for a stock pump and dump like they maybe they bought them for anyway before Hisense and Foxconn run Vizio off the planet .

Investors like myself frankly speaking arent much interested in the NASDAQ tech sector right now it's been a bust lately hence the pending Vizio IPO .:nana

Vizio are thrifty box store and Costco special above door buster rubbish and thats OK everybody can't or won't afford the tier one brands like Sony LG and Samsung and some folks just want a TV above the door busters .

Again my advice to the paparazzi is a tier one brand full featured Samsung,Sony or LG not below 4K SDR with a caveat don't buy the cheap model tier one brands below a decent for the spend Samsung KU 6290 or Sony XBR X800D and maybe not the cheap LG 4K SDR with RGBW LCD unless one wants a Vizio which may be fine for some folks and some room uses
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Comptech
I got a 55 inch Vizio uhd 3 weeks ago and love it. No OTA tuner but I bought a Homeworks OTA tuner for$27 at Amazon and it works great including the EPG. Sound is tinny but I use the optical out to my tuner anyway. It also has 4 HDMI ports.Got itat WallyWorld on sale for $469. It is clearly marked on the box as a display and a OTA tuner is needed. Sorry, E series.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Rock And Roll All Nite - Kiss
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Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution - AC/DC
Bobby
Kiss - The Art Of Noise
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Beautiful Noise - Neil Diamond
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White Noise - Jessie Baylin
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Can't help but wonder if a worker overlooked checking the harness. I rarely ride a roller coaster anymore but when I do I check the harness myself pretty aggressively.
Can't imagine what the son is going through.

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Jimbo
dishstaller
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
Jimbo
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
It makes sense, however, I would want more types of restraints, so if one doesn't work, the other does ... the restraints coming over the shoulder I would have expected ... with a Seat belt as last resort.

Fwiw, I inquired with what they use on Coasters at Cedar Point, various Coasters, different restraints according to what the car and track requires ...

NONE of the Coasters at CP use THAT particular system :)
I'm glad to see ...
dishstaller
with a Seat belt as last resort.
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
Jimbo
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
Well, the over the shoulder support is better, but would require reconfiguring the cars.
Jimbo
Heres an article from the Akron Beacon ... seeing Six Flags has bought Cedar Point and Kings Island, they are included ...
I said earlier that Cedar Point doesn't use this type of seat restraint ... well, it does use it, But the difference is, the ones up here ALSO have the Over the shoulder restraint as well ... like I was suggesting that they should have used with the Goliath.

One of the new(er) one at Cedar point the Gate Keeper, uses the Clam shell .. I have rode it many times and have Mostly felt secure, that ride will stop you part way on the ride and you just hang, till the ride is ready to continue ... I typically ride the Front Car ... when its getting ready, you ARE hanging, in the car, looking down .... it would require 2 separate restraint systems to unlock at the same time to possibly get out of it.

meStevo
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
zippyfrog
That image is so true - especially after that Giants/Commanders game yesterday.
dfergie
Some tight games that went to the wire...
Y
Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Foxbat
I noticed you missed last week's… Much like the SEC Shorts!😉
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osu1991
I noticed you missed last week's… Much like the SEC Shorts!😉
I thought I posted it as I usually have nothing to do but sit at my desk in the morning scrolling the interwebs , but my mom passed away the day before so my mind was mush.
Ronnie-
I thought I posted it as I usually have nothing to do but sit at my desk in the morning scrolling the interwebs , but my mom passed away the day before so my mind was mush.
Sorry for your loss.
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24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
osu1991
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Foxbat
Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…
dishstaller
Well, I helped him set up a gmail acct....I actually wanted to see what the new process is for setting up a gmail acct since it had been years since I set mine up. Anyway, I showed him how to forward the emails he wanted to keep over.
navychop
If Earth had shorter days,

Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

🙄
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Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

🙄
Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…😉
K
Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

I still have one of those although I've been trying to wean myself off it.
JSheridan
Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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"MysteryMan"
Best episode ever.
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Best episode ever.
I actually think the very first episode was One of the Best ...
S1 E1 Yankee White
Where it all started in what was it, 2003 ?

edit:
Sorry, I got the shows mixed up, were talking Origins ...
I've liked Most of them once we've gotten past the 1st 3-4, getting to know who was who took a bit in the beginning.
It's a bit harder seeing we already Know the person, then go back and see how they became that person.
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KAB
Mark Harmon is coming back as Gibbs in Origins, for the full season. Just saw, Dinozzo too, on NCIS . That will be an interesting writing project.
dfergie
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
R
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
Will the OG Gibbs be on NCIS or will Tony be on NCIS Origins?
TheRatPatrol
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
dfergie
I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Last reply · posted in FTA Receiver / Equipment Support
I just received 6 receiver 2 port mini Multiswitch and it work great, no external power need it, and you can connect 6 receiver instead of 4 on most Mini Multiswitches... If anyone is interested in where they can get one PM me....
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Titanium
Have you tested using external power? Over the years, have found unpowered polarity switching to be unreliable. Especially problematic when used with DiSEqC motors or switch stacking.
H
No I have not. I just got it the other day and it is connected to six receivers working just fine. What I do is non power mini multi-switches work best with LNBF's and with LNB's
H
It also has a IPS and a OPS switch on the side of it with a power led light showing when is on. It seems to be very nice build switch
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Wednesday 10-14, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
Bobby
NASCAR, Freeway Insurance 500, Sunday 10-18, 12PM PDT, Channel 148-04.
Bobby
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Yeah. It's probably something going on with the MacBook as my iPhone has been pretty snappy.
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I have been optimizing the site the past few days... and got us here now. :) We are rocking now!

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Foxbat
Yeah. It's probably something going on with the MacBook as my iPhone has been pretty snappy.
I rebooted my MacBook Air and it's zipping right along. Sorry, but it was taking over 20 seconds to load pages, with the pulsing blue bars so it was munching on something.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱