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olliec420
Last reply · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion
Most of you probably know by now I'm on my first c-band experience. Today is the first rainy day since I hooked it up and man is the rain fade waaaaay worse than I anticipated. I was under the impression that c-band can power through most rain. Granted I am on 7.5' but damn, its hardly raining and I'm on Pursuit on 87 and it is unwatchable. Clear sky S is 91 and Q is 77. Attached is radar view. Yellow to the south west of me, I'm in the clearer area in the middle.

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Titanium
If this happens regularly, use a spectrum display to see if the noise floor is raised during the outage or if the satellite signal is reduced. Easy to figure out if the problem is because the satellite signal is being attenuated or interference is wiping out the satellite signal.

A cheap SDR RTL USB dongle connected to a PC or android and placed inline with a voltage blocked splitter would work fine if you don't have access to a satellite meter with a calibrated spectrum display. Just tune the SDR to the IF of one of the problematic transponders ( LO Frequency minus the C-band TP frequency).

Example: 5150 - 3900 = 1250 IF. Take note of the dB strength with e SDR in fixed gain mode. Also tune to a unused frequency between the TPs and not the noise level in dB (see satsignature.com for real-time spectrum display of active frequency range). This measurement is the noise threshold level and it will rise or fall with interference. Compare the peak TP measurement to the noise threshold and this will provide the approxiomate SNR (Signal to Noise Ratio). An increase in the SNR is good! A decrease in the SNR is bad and if the margin gets too small, the transponder will not lock or decode.

Radar should be outside the C-band frequency range, but harmonics or other onboard gear could be the cause.
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wvman
If this happens regularly, use a spectrum display to see if the noise floor is raised during the outage or if the satellite signal is reduced. Easy to figure out if the problem is because the satellite signal is being attenuated or interference is wiping out the satellite signal.

A cheap SDR RTL USB dongle connected to a PC or android and placed inline with a voltage blocked splitter would work fine if you don't have access to a satellite meter with a calibrated spectrum display. Just tune the SDR to the IF of one of the problematic transponders ( LO Frequency minus the C-band TP frequency).

Example: 5150 - 3900 = 1250 IF. Take note of the dB strength with e SDR in fixed gain mode. Also tune to a unused frequency between the TPs and not the noise level in dB (see satsignature.com for real-time spectrum display of active frequency range). This measurement is the noise threshold level and it will rise or fall with interference. Compare the peak TP measurement to the noise threshold and this will provide the approxiomate SNR (Signal to Noise Ratio). An increase in the SNR is good! A decrease in the SNR is bad and if the margin gets too small, the transponder will not lock or decode.

Radar should be outside the C-band frequency range, but harmonics or other onboard gear could be the cause.

It almost sounds like what happened to some of my channels on Galaxy 16. This, and some other channels will no longer lock, and they worked perfectly for over a year on a 7 1/2 foot dish. The problem is, I'm 8 miles out in the country, down in a hole between 4 mountains, and I can't even see a cell tower from here. I checked for local wifi setups, and couldn't find any other than my own. I even turned off the wireless transmitter in my modem, and still have the problem. I have wireless internet, but my antenna is 40 feet in the air so I can see over the hill to get an open shot to the tower my internet is coming off of. Not sure what's going on.
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It almost sounds like what happened to some of my channels on Galaxy 16. This, and some other channels will no longer lock, and they worked perfectly for over a year on a 7 1/2 foot dish. The problem is, I'm 8 miles out in the country, down in a hole between 4 mountains, and I can't even see a cell tower from here. I checked for local wifi setups, and couldn't find any other than my own. I even turned off the wireless transmitter in my modem, and still have the problem. I have wireless internet, but my antenna is 40 feet in the air so I can see over the hill to get an open shot to the tower my internet is coming off of. Not sure what's going on.
Did your electric company install a smart meter. I recently had one installed and discovered every time it sends a data burst (about every 10 seconds) on the lower power channels it completly knocks them out. so i go from picture to black screen every 10 seconds. I even see signal decrease on the higher power channels (on the meter) but its not enough to degrade picture quality.
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wvman
Did your electric company install a smart meter. I recently had one installed and discovered every time it sends a data burst (about every 10 seconds) on the lower power channels it completly knocks them out. so i go from picture to black screen every 10 seconds. I even see signal decrease on the higher power channels (on the meter) but its not enough to degrade picture quality.

I never thought of that. They changed mine from the old analog to a new digital readout meter, but I don't think it's a smart meter because the electric guy was out there and read it the other day. It was the annual reading. I could see why that could be a problem. I have enough trouble with the electric out here anyway. It took me 2 years and a dozen calls to the PSC just to get them to replace the ground wire on the power line. It fell off the pole.

I thought of something after I posted this. I noticed on mine that several channels have a fluctuation is signal levels. May drop and recover as much as 10 points or more. Got me wondering about that meter now. I may have to check into that a little more.
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I only mention it because it appears that is what is causing the interference. I only have a few simple methods available to check this but from what I can see it is highly likely it is the culprit. Also went to ask if there was an opt out to be able to go back to a non transmitting meter and they flatly stated there is no opt out provision.
wvman
I only mention it because it appears that is what is causing the interference. I only have a few simple methods available to check this but from what I can see it is highly likely it is the culprit. Also went to ask if there was an opt out to be able to go back to a non transmitting meter and they flatly stated there is no opt out provision.

You read my mind. I was going to call and see if they could tell me if my meter is transmitting data, or if it was simply a digital meter.
Radioguy41
Did your electric company install a smart meter. I recently had one installed and discovered every time it sends a data burst (about every 10 seconds) on the lower power channels it completly knocks them out. so i go from picture to black screen every 10 seconds. I even see signal decrease on the higher power channels (on the meter) but its not enough to degrade picture quality.
I had a similar issue and I filed a complaint with the FCC. They sent up two guys from the Philadelphia office with a trunk full of equipment and, contrary to what the electric company was telling me, the meter was, in fact, generating RFI. I don't know the specifics of what steps the FCC took but a day later the problem was gone and a few days after that the FCC called me and had me verify the problem was gone. The FCC does take complaints like this seriously and does follow through so it might be an option to consider.
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I spoke with a guy from the power company today, not one of the ladies in the office. He said hed look into it and knowing this small town and i know the guy he probably will.
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
TheRatPatrol
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
TRG
"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
meStevo
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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dishstaller
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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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White Wedding - Billy Idol
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White Christmas - Elvis Presley
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Dirty White Boy - Foreigner
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Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley
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Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson