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wvman
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I just happened to spot this dish at a local quick stop store and I was wondering if it could be used as a prime focus Ku Dish? It measures 38.75 inches across, but it's only 2.75 inches deep. I did the math and came up with a focal distance of 34.14 inches. It was previously used as a WV lottery dish.

I have an old Unimesh dish with tri-leg feed mounts that could easily be modified to make a prime focus feed mount. It has a round raised place in the center of the dish so focusing it woudn't be much of a problem. What do you think?



Here is the mount and feed arm assembly.

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wvman
UPDATE: I got the pole in and the dish on the pole. Used my Channel Master meter to locate Galaxy 3C Ku and had a signal when I hooked it to a receiver. I tried several LNB Lo Frequencies and landed on Universal 9750-10750, with the 22Khz off. Tuned in 50 channels, including the CCTV Chinese channels. Also found Africa Live and Telegenic.

Tuned on it for a bit and landed on a 92/74 signal level on CCTV. A few others were lower, but no matter what I done, couldn't get them as high as the Chinese channels. It was raining hard here and had to delay tuning it for a while until it broke. Now, all I have to do is figure out which satellite has the best programming suited for my taste.

All went well and came off without a hitch. I want to thank all the folks that pitched in offering help and advice. Here's a photo of the install. I'm open for suggestions on which satellite offers up programming close to what we have on C-Band. BTW, I did the water test as suggested. The edge of the water measured the same all the way around the dish. Apparently this dish isn't elyptical. :)
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UPDATE: I got the pole in and the dish on the pole. Used my Channel Master meter to locate Galaxy 3C Ku and had a signal when I hooked it to a receiver. I tried several LNB Lo Frequencies and landed on Universal 9750-10750, with the 22Khz off. Tuned in 50 channels, including the CCTV Chinese channels. Also found Africa Live and Telegenic.

Tuned on it for a bit and landed on a 92/74 signal level on CCTV. A few others were lower, but no matter what I done, couldn't get them as high as the Chinese channels. It was raining hard here and had to delay tuning it for a while until it broke. Now, all I have to do is figure out which satellite has the best programming suited for my taste.

All went well and came off without a hitch. I want to thank all the folks that pitched in offering help and advice. Here's a photo of the install. I'm open for suggestions on which satellite offers up programming close to what we have on C-Band. BTW, I did the water test as suggested. The edge of the water measured the same all the way around the dish. Apparently this dish isn't elyptical. :)View attachment 137033

What was your Final settings for the LNB. From the dish center and the holding arm to front center of the LNB?
wvman
What was your Final settings for the LNB. From the dish center and the holding arm to front center of the LNB?

I set the LNB at 9750-10600 Universal. Actually, I never measured from the center of the feed to the dish. I used my meter to tweek the signal level moving the LNB in and out and then locked it down. I also tweeked the signal skewing the polarity right and left. I checked the channel listings for that satellite and everything was there with a few extra ocassional feeds. :)
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Use a 1.0 switch or a 22k switch at each port. Up to 32 ports with (8) 4 port switches.

It is my understanding that using a 22khz tone requires the use of an external power supply because all ports on the switch would be powered at the same time, causing an overload on the receiver's power supply. I am trying to keep things simple as possible to avoid creating a nightmare diagnosing a problem, especially since I'm using 2 8 port switches now to operate an additional in the wife's TV room.

All my dishes either have, or will have dual output LNBF's on them. After talking with some old dealers in the area that aren't messing in FTA, my wife would be in trouble if I kicked the bucket and she started having problems with my setup. I don't know anyone around here that would have the slightest idea how to set up or work on my system. :)
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I set the LNB at 9750-10600 Universal. Actually, I never measured from the center of the feed to the dish. I used my meter to tweek the signal level moving the LNB in and out and then locked it down. I also tweeked the signal skewing the polarity right and left. I checked the channel listings for that satellite and everything was there with a few extra ocassional feeds. :)

Could you check the measurement? I and others are interested ..
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It is my understanding that using a 22khz tone requires the use of an external power supply because all ports on the switch would be powered at the same time, causing an overload on the receiver's power supply. I am trying to keep things simple as possible to avoid creating a nightmare diagnosing a problem, especially since I'm using 2 8 port switches now to operate an additional in the wife's TV room.

All my dishes either have, or will have dual output LNBF's on them. After talking with some old dealers in the area that aren't messing in FTA, my wife would be in trouble if I kicked the bucket and she started having problems with my setup. I don't know anyone around here that would have the slightest idea how to set up or work on my system. :)

22k switch would use less power because A is default and would only draw power is when B is used. External power supply is normally used to change polarity on the LNB to make up for long runs or a bad cable.
As for anyone local that could repair my system?/ not here ether. Most dish/viasat installers did not know anything about the sat they were lining up with?? number Deg. or name?
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Could you check the measurement? I and others are interested ..

I went out and measured the focal distance a little while ago. I came up with 31.25 inches. I also took a Magic Marker and wrote the focal distance and which satellite it's pointed at on the back of the reflector for future reference. :)
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22k switch would use less power because A is default and would only draw power is when B is used. External power supply is normally used to change polarity on the LNB to make up for long runs or a bad cable.
As for anyone local that could repair my system?/ not here ether. Most dish/viasat installers did not know anything about the sat they were lining up with?? number Deg. or name?

I finally got the concrete to set up for the pole I set for Galaxy 19Ku. I stuck the dish on a little while ago, aimed it and when I scanned in the channels, I came up with 646 channels on that satellite. I thought my blind scan was bat crap crazy, so I deleted all the channels and re-scanned in "Normal" scan mode. Again, 646 channels. Of course, most of them were Arabic, Chinese, Vietnamese, Taiwanese, Sudanese and very few English channels.

I did find a John Wayne movie in Arabic, like I understod it. I'm not a bit familiar with the Ku side of Galaxy 19, so is there actually that many channels on this satellite or did my receiver create a bunch of duplicates? That's insane. :confused:
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I finally got the concrete to set up for the pole I set for Galaxy 19Ku. I stuck the dish on a little while ago, aimed it and when I scanned in the channels, I came up with 646 channels on that satellite. I thought my blind scan was bat crap crazy, so I deleted all the channels and re-scanned in "Normal" scan mode. Again, 646 channels. Of course, most of them were Arabic, Chinese, Vietnamese, Taiwanese, Sudanese and very few English channels.

I did find a John Wayne movie in Arabic, like I understod it. I'm not a bit familiar with the Ku side of Galaxy 19, so is there actually that many channels on this satellite or did my receiver create a bunch of duplicates? That's insane. :confused:

Last I checked there was something like 323 channels FTA there. Of which about 10 are something usable, LOL.
wvman
Last I checked there was something like 323 channels FTA there. Of which about 10 are something usable, LOL.

Um, my receiver doubled that number. What's up with that? LOL
primestar31
Um, my receiver doubled that number. What's up with that? LOL

Maybe your lnb setting is set wrong? Check it. What receiver do you have, and what lnb?

Or are you also counting RADIO channels? I never counted them.

Here's what Sathint says, but they aren't keeping up very well lately: Galaxy 19 @ 97.0° West Frequencies

(201 TV, 44 HDTV, 64 Radio, 0 Data)
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Maybe your lnb setting is set wrong? Check it. What receiver do you have, and what lnb?

Or are you also counting RADIO channels? I never counted them.

Here's what Sathint says, but they aren't keeping up very well lately: Galaxy 19 @ 97.0° West Frequencies

(201 TV, 44 HDTV, 64 Radio, 0 Data)

The receiver I'm using in an old V8 Golden I use for testing. The LNBF is an FSS LNBF that was originally installed on the dish. :) No, I never scan for radio channels.
primestar31
The receiver I'm using in an old V8 Golden I use for testing. The LNBF is an FSS LNBF that was originally installed on the dish. :) No, I never scan for radio channels.

It's the FSS lnb doing it to you. If I remember right, you should set LO to 13850 and ONLY scan the Vertical side channels, and it'll then grab both V and stack the H. Otherwise it doubles.
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It's the FSS lnb doing it to you. If I remember right, you should set LO to 13850 and ONLY scan the Vertical side channels, and it'll then grab both V and stack the H. Otherwise it doubles.

This receiver doesn't have a Lo setting of 13850. I guess it falls under the Universal settings. I updated my avatar. It nows shows 2 Ku dishes and 4 BUDS. There's another Ku dish out of view on the left and a Prodelin 12 foot that can't be seen either. I'm out of ports on my switch. I have to figure out some other way to add more dishes. :)
primestar31
This receiver doesn't have a Lo setting of 13850. I guess it falls under the Universal settings. I updated my avatar. It nows shows 2 Ku dishes and 4 BUDS. There's another Ku dish out of view on the left and a Prodelin 12 foot that can't be seen either. I'm out of ports on my switch. I have to figure out some other way to add more dishes. :)

You don't have a "user setting" that you can manually set the lnb LO?

Then just set it to the normal 10750, and ONLY scan V. It'll also grab H and stack them, but they'll ALL say they are V side.
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I went out and measured the focal distance a little while ago. I came up with 31.25 inches. I also took a Magic Marker and wrote the focal distance and which satellite it's pointed at on the back of the reflector for future reference. :)

If that is your focal distance, the original measurements of height and depth (from which I calculated the focal distance > 34 inch) weren't very precise, I guess... :(

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It's the FSS lnb doing it to you. If I remember right, you should set LO to 13850 and ONLY scan the Vertical side channels, and it'll then grab both V and stack the H. Otherwise it doubles.
if it's a stacked LNB as used by Dish in the past (I have several of those), the Vertical uses 10750 like a standard LNB, but Horizontal is stacked on top and reversed (like C-Band), so changing the LO to 13850 will still not give the right frequencies... I just set mine to 10750, vertical only, with the understanding that anything showing above 12200 is horizontal and will have weird numbers - but it works.
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wvman
If that is your focal distance, the original measurements of height and depth (from which I calculated the focal distance > 34 inch) weren't very precise, I guess... :(

greetz,
A33

Please bear in mind, we are talking about an entirely different type of feed than the originally used on this dish. I made the fine adjustments using a Channel Master meter, in and out, up and down and left and right to arrive at that focal point. In any case, it worked out well and I'm enjoying the channels I located. :)
wvman
You don't have a "user setting" that you can manually set the lnb LO?

Then just set it to the normal 10750, and ONLY scan V. It'll also grab H and stack them, but they'll ALL say they are V side.

Oddly enough, there is no user setting that gives you the option to enter the frequency manually, or at least none I've found. I also noticed something else odd. Apparently the name you choose for a particlular satellite has something to do with the use of a 22khz tone. When I used the 9750-10750 setting for SES 3, the option to choose the 22khz tone was active.

When I used the same setting for SES 2, the 22khz tone was not available. I went through all the other settings and it came back "No Channels Found." I kind of expected oddities using a LNBF designed for a different application. :)
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Anony55
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
Anony55
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.
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They tell you to trash it and not to sell simply because they're phasing them out, not particularly because someone might be "confused" into buying it and not be able to activate. They tell people that in every case where they're not acting to get a box back, either from a replacement or service cancel.
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Although my VIP211K hasn't been subscribed or connected to a dish in probably 5 years since canceling service, my 1 TB HDD full of programming still works fine.

Upon occasion I power it up to watch something I recorded as far back as 2010. The last time I had it going in September it even let me rescan the local OTA channels which I think it refused at some earlier time. I will use it until the day it fails but this topic makes me think some software download is responsible for current subscribers.
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zippyfrog
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Has anyone subscribed to NBA League Pass for 2026-27 and try to link their account to NBA.com to stream League Pass? I purchased it for 2026-27, and when I linked, I got a message saying success, but then I receive an error that my linked subscription does not include the preseason games for NBA League Pass. Is that how it has always been? I know satellite doesn't have the preseason games on the NBA League Pass channels, but I thought that I was able to stream the preseason once I linked my account on NBA.com?
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zippyfrog
I found my answer...when I log into the NBA app on my phone and try to watch, it gives me a more clear answer that it acknowledges I have paid for NBA League Pass from Dish and it is linked, but I need an "upgraded" subscription to League Pass for the preseason games. So I guess it is by design that Dish does not show the preseason games on League pass and that the contract Dish has signed for league pass is explicitly for the regular season games. (I know the description for League Pass says regular season games, but I thought that was only by satellite and the preseason would have worked)
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I plan on doing what I did last season. I ordered the more expensive arena feed version from the NBA website. It's worth it because you get to watch what's going on in the arena instead of just staring at the ad break slide on the Dish version. The main advantage to ordering from the website is you can go on a month by month basis and cancel if you get tired of it.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
AZ.
AZ.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Jimbo
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
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Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
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Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.
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IF they go to 24 teams, and it looks like they will soon ....
Do we Really want Teams with 3 and 4 losses in the Playoffs ?
Is a 3-4 Loss team one thats able to win 4-5 more games against Top teams ?
Y
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.
A 12 team playoff net should catch any undefeated team. The 12 team playoff also exposed that rankings suck. I mean, we kind of knew already that the rankings weren't particularly reproducible, but we now have the empirical evidence that the rankings suck because judging who is the best among a mickey mouse scheduled football season isn't a rational endeavor. So the 12 team playoff ensures most teams that should make it, do, including the mid-major undefeated team. 8 teams should be able to work as well, but puts greater risk at OSU and Alabama missing the playoff... can't have that.

Which is the run up to my main problem with the 24 team set up is that it is designed to keep the OSU's and Alabama's from missing the playoff. The cartels are ensuring widespread participation for their own cartels to increase the monetary reward to themselves. It is fixing the system while not fixing the outcomes, merely making the regular season game outcomes virtually irrelevant. Sure, a bye for winning the conference would be nice, but we've already seen that byes aren't that influential.
We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
That is college football in a nutshell. Again, college football isn't about competition, it is about revenue. The entire setup is about making money, from regular season squash games against local jobbers like the WWF days to tax exempt bowl games.

And to add to the first world woes, the college football cartels have made being a College Football fan even more expensive... so they can get paid more.
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Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one 🤣
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
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Foxbat
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
OMG to freaking funny :biggrin
comfortably_numb
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:

Not likely since that place closed down.
Foxbat
Not likely since that place closed down.
You're no fun.😑
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
dishdude
I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"
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navychop
"Big salary." Charlie. "?Big?"
Tampa8
Seems in some ways better. Nicer layout, as others said maybe cleaner. Moving ahead in the guide is better.
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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navychop
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
ncted
apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.
ncted
What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
You should have looked in the APP STORE instead. ;)
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navychop
Will do!