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SandFarmer
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Multiplying U540 on H3 Playback issues . . .

This started right after the U540 update:
  • The screen goes black or freezes. The only way to get out of it is to change the channel. And there is no way to go back to what you missed. When you change back and try to scan back or use the "Restart" options, it's as if it's your first or initial visit. During the black or frozen screen, all the OSDs work and come up or go away when the appropriate buttons are pressed. So the STB doesn't lock up. But the actions that they evoke just take you through their proper course or back to the black or frozen screen. And if you close out and go to the program in the "Recordings" and try to play it again, the screen goes black, all the appropriate OSD's pop up and the Progress Bar goes sliding across the area and there is no stopping or pausing it and no way to view the program. While you can rotate through all the OSDs and press buttons, no matter what, above is the only behavior you'll get.
  • And or When a program has frozen, and can be caused by being paused (for too long) and frozen or the screen goes black for no reason while watching, if you stop the program, go and find it in Recordings and try to restart it, the screen goes black, the OSDs pop up on the screen and the progress bar goes shooting across the space and it does this every time you try. And you can not get back to the place where it happened to continue on. Switching to another program then back helps, but the problem program has to start over and you have to scan forward to that spot. The only way I have found helps is to do a reboot.
  • Then there is also when you right off the top the selected program, the screen goes black, the OSDs pop up and the progress bar goes sliding to the end in seconds. There is no way to access this program. Now Pull-thePlug Power Cycle helps most of the time and the situation stays away for a while.
  • When it first started and I had not figured it out yet, I had thought that the programs that I tried that wouldn't play were corrupt and would not play at all. And this all started with U540. So since these days after a day or so you can usually find the program elsewhere easily and in far better quality. It is teaching me how to get programming if I ever look to cut the cord.
It just froze again, I pulled the plug and am watching through the channels Internet Widget off my AppleTV 4K.
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SandFarmer
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Had another incident a while ago and this time when I rebooted the H3 is took a good 15-20 minutes to come back up. There was a pop up that I have never seen before, I think it was #1599 (?), about doing a system check that might take some time. Once back up, the recording worked fine. I'm trying to pin down what is going on when this happens. But the way it just pops up and all I try to work through it without rebooting, I forget what I have done. But today was the first time of the "System Check" and nothing came back to me unless a report was sent to the "Mothership"? Could this be an "Internet Interaction" via my network related issue? I have seen over the years that certain Devices that when connected to the Internet the better the connection and operation of that connection, the better the Device operates. Even though the use of the Internet or Network is not directly involved at the moment. Although there is the MoCA connection between my two H3's . . .

I'm going to contact the Chat Team, but I hate chatting, it's so disjointed and sometimes it's impossible to accurately convey a though. But I will try and post back . . .

Just tried a Chat and when I clicked on the link above, all I got was a blank page. What now?
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SandFarmer said:
Had another incident a while ago and this time when I rebooted the H3 is took a good 15-20 minutes to come back up. There was a pop up that I have never seen before, I think it was #1599 (?), about doing a system check that might take some time. Once back up, the recording worked fine. I'm trying to pin down what is going on when this happens. But the way it just pops up and all I try to work through it without rebooting, I forget what I have done. But today was the first time of the "System Check" and nothing came back to me unless a report was sent to the "Mothership"? Could this be an "Internet Interaction" via my network related issue? I have seen over the years that certain Devices that when connected to the Internet the better the connection and operation of that connection, the better the Device operates. Even though the use of the Internet or Network is not directly involved at the moment. Although there is the MoCA connection between my two H3's . . .

I'm going to contact the Chat Team, but I hate chatting, it's so disjointed and sometimes it's impossible to accurately convey a though. But I will try and post back . . .

Just tried a Chat and when I clicked on the link above, all I got was a blank page. What now?
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Is this the pop up you got?


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Been having audio drop outs on both our H3s since the update. But yesterday on H3 #2 it was so bad it was like every third word. ALTHOUGH a Power Cycle seems to have taken care of yesterday's issues that came after a Power Cycle right after the update. H3 #1, the drop outs, even after a Power Cycle, happen like the Nightly Update, all over and whenever . . .

Still no word from the DIRT solicitation . . .
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SandFarmer said:
Been having audio drop outs on both our H3s since the update. But yesterday on H3 #2 it was so bad it was like every third word. ALTHOUGH a Power Cycle seems to have taken care of yesterday's issues that came after a Power Cycle right after the update. H3 #1, the drop outs, even after a Power Cycle, happen like the Nightly Update, all over and whenever . . .

Still no word from the DIRT solicitation . . .
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This isn't the experience that we want you to have. I'm not seeing any pending reports from our Engineering Teams, but I will be sure to pass your feedback along.

Do you notice if the picture gets distorted or pixelated in any way while the sound is acting up? -Carina G.
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Just saw a major video audio skip on 159 (about 1 second), no audio, screen went black but when I rewound to see if it was recorded there was noproblem at the same point in the recording. Probably a MOCA problem between Joey 2.0 and H3.
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SandFarmer
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Well here it is January 2020, I haven't heard anything from anyone and the problem is getting worse. Some recordings are impossible to watch. The leased H3 is skipping and dropping more and more. The owned H3 the audio is constantly dropping and lots of pixelation and tearing in recordings. We now go to the network apps on the TVs and watch the programming otherwise.

I got a request to PM someone so they could talk to me about all this. It's been months and no word.
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This isn't the experience that we want you to have. I'm not seeing any pending reports from our Engineering Teams, but I will be sure to pass your feedback along.

Do you notice if the picture gets distorted or pixelated in any way while the sound is acting up? -Carina G.
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Sent from my SM-T380 using the SatelliteGuys app!
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SandFarmer said:
Well here it is January 2020, I haven't heard anything from anyone and the problem is getting worse. Some recordings are impossible to watch. The leased H3 is skipping and dropping more and more. The owned H3 the audio is constantly dropping and lots of pixelation and tearing in recordings. We now go to the network apps on the TVs and watch the programming otherwise.

I got a request to PM someone so they could talk to me about all this. It's been months and no word.

Sent from my SM-T380 using the SatelliteGuys app!
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That's definitely not good, SandFarmer. Is this only happening on the recorded programs? Or are you experiencing issues with live TV and On Demand programming as well?
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Is this the pop up you got?


I have been getting this message frequently lately. It just show up in the middle of whatever program we are watching, any time of the day.

What does this mean? Do I need to replace the HWS?

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SandFarmer
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That's definitely not good, SandFarmer. Is this only happening on the recorded programs? Or are you experiencing issues with live TV and On Demand programming as well?
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It was and is everything and it started after an update awhile back. I think somewhere around here I site the version. Or if you look around here were others posted and either they may have or by the time frame you might be able to nail the release version down.

Until then everything was fine. I have seen others post about it also and was hoping it didn't happen to us. No Such Luck.

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ATSC 3 converter boxes

Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
www.tvtechnology.com

Pearl TV Issues Progress Report on Low-Cost 3.0 Converters in Advance of NAB Show New York

Group has secured lower pricing from key tech players to make less costly boxes available
www.tvtechnology.com www.tvtechnology.com
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primestar31
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DEATH TO NEXGEN!
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.
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Mister B said:
In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
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They might notice the hand going into their pocket for their wallet.
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Mister B said:
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.
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QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.
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primestar31 said:
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.
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Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

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Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

:oldlaugh
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That would be handy. Download the latest RNA snippets that can be updated over 5G and no more shots! You're a Genius!
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Is it click bait or is it real

Pretty cool.


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Meta Clickbait, clicking and watching the Video on Clickbait.
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Well crap....Donnie Iris died today

RIP dude. Always liked his music. He was 83


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R.I.P.
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Rest in Peace…
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Susan Saint James, Emmy-Winning Star of 'Kate & Allie' and 'McMillan & Wife,' Dies at 80

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Susan Saint James, Emmy-Winning Star of ‘Kate & Allie’ and ‘McMillan & Wife,’ Dies at 80

Susan Saint James, the Emmy-winning actress who starred in "Kate & Allie," died Monday after being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. She was 80.
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R.I.P.
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My Mom was a huge McMillan & Wife fan.

RIP
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Mcmillan and wife was where I remember her from, R.I.P. ...
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Rest in Peace… I had forgotten she was Kate in "Kate and Allie", teamed with Jane Curtin.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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If Love Must Go - Dobie Gray
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Drift Away - Dobie Gray
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Apple Event September 2026

Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
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IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
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hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!
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Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
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Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
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Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
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Intelligent Machines 894

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSBKxtzFi0Y


Direct YouTube Link - Intelligent Machines 894
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
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tparker
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

"Bonus View" Channel List

I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:

https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html

Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)

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If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
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Paranormal Files back in business:

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Two new Bonus View channels Added today:

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And two Removed:

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the heads up.
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One Bonus View channel added today. And one correction (on my part):

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One Removed:

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

BTW, not a Bonus View item, but there was a temporary channel 304 Spooktacular added, I imagine just for the Halloween season.

Thanks again to Pat for the many tips.
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Three new Bonus View channels today:

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

As always, thanks to Pat for the tips.
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Four Bonus View channels removed today:

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Van
Van
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?

Whats for breakfast?

Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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2 egg burrito with bacon and a side of hashbrowns. Coffee.

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Breakfast Quesadillas. Grilled flour tortilla filled with scrambled eggs, hash browns, chopped green chile, cheddar & Jack cheese and bacon. Coffee.

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Taco omelette. 3 eggs, taco meat from yesterday, diced green chilis, cheddar cheese, chopped red onion, avocado, black olives, chopped tomato, La Victoria Salsa Brava.

This one was really, really good!
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Thought I was getting a Chorizo and egg burrito (marker had rubbed off)but was a roast beef/potato I made up before hunting this morning.
Btw every morning at camp I cooked my homemade Chorizo and scrambled eggs plus sausage side while my brother brought bacon. (they liked both the beef and pork versions)
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dfergie said:
Thought I was getting a Chorizo and egg burrito (marker had rubbed off)but was a roast beef/potato I made up before hunting this morning.
Btw every morning at camp I cooked my homemade Chorizo and scrambled eggs plus sausage side while my brother brought bacon. (they liked both the beef and pork versions)
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I had a chorizo and egg burrito for you. With lots of green chile and cheese of course.
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Peter Parker
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DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.
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So after some heavy research, it looks like the issue I mentioned with the DISH 50.0/52.0/54.x remotes where on the 50.0/52.0 remotes, the dedicated TV Power button or on the 54.x remotes where it is using the TV button on the side followed by Power works correctly on a Hopper 3 which runs Linux but not on a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 which are Android TV (ATV) has to do with the Android TV software itself. In all instances, the remotes had always sent out a dual RF and Infrared signal when the TV Power signal is sent from the remote. The Hopper 3 without the Plus would ignore the incoming RF power packet signal which is identified as a TV-specific toggle event, and does not trigger a system-wide standby state. The Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 as Android TV devices initially worked the same way as well up to sometime in 2025 as there was the legacy pass-through mode in the original software versions used since the Hopper Plus/Joey 4/Wireless Joey 4 launch, the receiver's underlying software essentially ignored the secondary RF payload that the 50.0/52.0/54.x remotes blasted out whenever the TV Power signal was sent. The Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 recognized it was a TV-specific command and discarded the RF packet, letting the standalone IR signal do its job on the tv.

When the software for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 were updated in 2025 and newer versions of the software for those Android TV (ATV) devices, it overhauled how the receiver handles remote commands to tighter integrate the Android TV environment which resulted in the software starting to treat any RF power toggle payload as a global command. As the newer software verion(s) no longer filters out the concurrent RF blast from the 50.0/52.0/54.0 remotes, the moment one sends a TV Power signal from the remote, the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 catches that unintended RF payloadand interpets it as a command to drop the system into standby.

The fix is really simple since the Android TV (ATV) software for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 just needs to be programmed to drop or ignore the specific RF power packets associated with the TV Power signal sequence.

The problem could also be at the remotes firmware as the remote's firmware has an engineering defect. When you try to turn off the TV, the remote's internal code mistakenly triggers its RF transmitter alongside its IR transmitter. It should only be firing the IR light blast. Because it forces a simultaneous broadcast, the remote's firmware is the original source of the problem.

The Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey firmware has a filtering defect. Good software design dictating peripheral inputs should include "error handling"—rules that tell the system what to do with messy or unintended commands.
• The legacy Hopper 3 firmware has proper error handling; it sees the remote's rogue RF packet and safely ignores it.
• The Android TV firmware in the Hopper Plu, Joey 4 and Wireless lacks this filtering logic. It blindly accepts the rogue RF packet and misinterprets it as a legitimate signal to force the entire system into standby.

If the remote didn't have a firmware bug, it wouldn't send the phantom RF signal. If the Android TV (ATV) device being the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 didn't have a firmware bug, it would cleanly ignore the signal just like the Hopper 3 does.

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That's a lot of information to ingest. However, I don't have the Hopper Plus and my 54 remote is doing crazy things to the Hopper 3. Several times each evening when I press the skip forward button several times to advance through a commercial, it switches the receiver either onto live TV or into suspension. Other buttons will also cause this randomly, I haven't established any patterns I can describe. I use "recall" to go back to my recorded program in progress.

Needless to say, something in the newer Hopper 3 softwares has caused the remote functioning to ......................malfunction. Evidently, it applies to third party remotes as well as DISH's own remotes.
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rvvaquero said:
That's a lot of information to ingest. However, I don't have the Hopper Plus and my 54 remote is doing crazy things to the Hopper 3. Several times each evening when I press the skip forward button several times to advance through a commercial, it switches the receiver either onto live TV or into suspension. Other buttons will also cause this randomly, I haven't established any patterns I can describe. I use "recall" to go back to my recorded program in progress.

Needless to say, something in the newer Hopper 3 softwares has caused the remote functioning to ......................malfunction. Evidently, it applies to third party remotes as well as DISH's own remotes.
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This is exactly the same issue I was having as I had the Hopper 3 and 54 remote without the Hopper Plus and the symptoms were virtually identical to yours.
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We have had a corolary problem in this and the prior s/w. Using several different 40.0 remotes (yeah, we're old), when one pauses a live or recorded show it becomes a crap shoot whether it will step foreward the 30" as requested, jump to the end, or restart the episode. Tried the famous 60" reboot to no avail and have decided to live with it vs. a receiver swap risk.
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I think there's a change to the "skip forward 30 seconds". With CBS that does not have auto-skip, if you stack up a bunch of 30 second forwards it seems to stop when the kangaroo signaling the end of the commercial break appears.
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