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lparsons21
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Over the holidays I got to playing around with a couple of Android e-ink tablets. The Likebook Mars and Onyx Boox Nova Pro. Both pretty well reviewed in various places and mostly positive reviews. Here's my take on the two I have currently.

Likebook Mars - about 8" plastic screen. Limited currently at Android 6 though there are rumors of an upcoming update to Android 8. For the approximate $200 cost it isn't bad, but could be better IMO. It supports the Google Play Store though you have to 'activate' it because of some licensing issues. For whatever reason it won't run the current version of the Nook reading app, you have to find and sideload a much older and very much less useful version.

It has a night setting and adjustment that changes the screen to something very orangey that's supposedly is easier on the eyes for night reading. As with all Android e-ink devices, it is a bit sluggish with screen flashes as you change what is on the screen. It is just the nature of the e-ink beast.

Onyx Boox Nova Pro - a bit over $300 usually. It is also approximately an 8" screen, but it is a glass screen. It comes with a basic Wacom pen and can be used for note taking and so forth. That works pretty well. Again it supports the Google Play Store with a similar 'activation' process needed to be able to use it. Currently it is on Android 6x but the manufacturer has promised Android 9, and even has Android 9 on some of the models above the Nova Pro.
Performance is better than the Likebook Mars, but is still a bit laggy because of the way e-ink works. It also has a night mode, but in this case it allows for mixing the orange and white lighting for what I consider a more pleasing color.

Both of these, as well as almost all Android e-ink tablets are made by Chinese companies that are not very big. Support, other than updates, is sorely lacking with virtually all of them I've looked at. Essentially support comes from the selling company. Boyue, the mfg of the Likebook is said to have a fairly good site with some support stuff on it, but it is in Chinese and you have to dig around to even find it. For that reason alone, it is better to buy one to try from a seller with a good return policy as that is the primary solution to problems, especially hardware ones. If you have one that needs repair under warranty, they have to go to China to be fixed. Long turnarounds are common in that scenario.

The biggest issue for e-ink tablets is that there are few apps actually written with e-ink in mind and the bulk of Android apps really don't work well on them because of the lack of e-ink awareness. Apps that present well on a LCD screen don't necessarily look good at all on e-ink, even to the point of being unusable. IMO, think of e-ink as electronic paper with only a black pen. There has been work for years on color e-ink and some recent articles have come out that indicates there has been some success though it will probably be awhile before a commercial product becomes available. But even if it comes out the lag issue will be there.

For me the attraction is having one device to read ebooks on that can read them from multiple sources. DRM is alive and well in the ebook marketplace though there are some places that sell non-protected versions.



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It should be noted that after warranty support/repairs probably won't be there. For the Chinese e-ink devices, even if they did offer it, you would have to send it to China. Imagine the time it would take and the shipping it would cost!

I wish I could say that is a problem solely with these mfgs, but it isn't. Most Android tablets don't have after warranty repair either. Most likely the only after warranty repair would be from Apple for the iPads and even there I suspect the cost would be prohibitive. Fortunately all the tablets I've bought or looked at give years of service before that issue comes up.

From a purely financial standpoint a lower end Android LCD tablet makes the most sense. And if you like Kindle, the FireHD 8 or 10 are cheap and good enough for ebook reading though you do have to sideload the Google Play Store to put non-Amazon provided apps on them. Figure about $50 for the FireHD 8, 8" screen that is really very good and they work fine. Not the tablet you would want for gaming, but otherwise fine.

Next up would be the dedicated e-readers. Like one of the Kindles or Nook tablets. Kindle tablets are all e-ink and perform very well and while there are some that claim jail breaking works and lets them put on other reading apps, the performance of those apps leaves a lot to be desired.

Barnes & Noble has both e-ink and lcd tablets carrying the Nook name. The lcd versions are really just some rebadged Samsungs with some B&N stuff added. The Glowlight and Glowlight Plus are both e-ink and like the Kindle, work best just for reading Nook books.

Prices on both the Kindles and Nooks are fluid, with sales often making them good buys when on sale and fair buys otherwise. The software overall on the Kindles is better than the Nooks, but for reading books both are fine.

Next up would be the generic Android e-ink devices with all the good and bad of those devices, as noted in my first post. Prices start about $200 and go up from there. For a nearly as good as a dedicated reader tablet, the Onyx Boox Nova Pro at around the $300 price is as good as it gets. Moving up their line gets you more, but not much more for reading.

While Boyue with their Likebook series and Onyx Boox with their series are not the only Chinese players in the market, they are the most often the ones that are compared to. Fairly priced and at least supported with updates if not other support items, the others are worse from both an update and support viewpoint. I don't have any experience with them other than what I've read though.

Lastly, from a performance at a price, the iPad Mini is probably at the top of the list. It supports nearly every e-reader app out there plus it supports Apple's Books app. Personally I would love to see someone come along with an e-ink device that could come close to the performance of the IPad Mini! At a starting price of $400 it is the most expensive but it is also the best of the LCD type tablets IMO.


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K
Downside of the LCD options is reading outdoors is difficult if not impossible. I also prefer a dedicated e-reader as there are no distractions on the device from email, texts, etc..

Long time Kindle user here.
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Downside of the LCD options is reading outdoors is difficult if not impossible. I also prefer a dedicated e-reader as there are no distractions on the device from email, texts, etc..

Long time Kindle user here.
Same here. I travel a lot and I'm a voracious reader. Taking my Kindle with me rather than a half a dozen books is most preferable. I still have to pull out my laptop, a tablet and my Kindle for TSA inspection. But it's still better than dragging a pile of books around. And like you said. Much less distracting than reading on a phone or tablet.
lparsons21
Yep, LCD sucks outside! I seldom read outside anymore, but it is an issue. And yeah, there is a lot to like about the dedicated readers.

I have an Kindle Oasis 3 and Nook Glowlight Plus (7.8" model) and prefer them over the otherwise very good Nova Pro. But I also read using Scribd and that app won't work on the Oasis or Nook. I'm tossing around just using my iPad Mini for scribd and Books and using the Nook and Oasis and sending the Nova Pro back. Haven't quite made up my mind.




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I am still rocking a kindle 4. Of course i rooted it and installed Duokan on it. It still works great and i can throw any format on it.

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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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That image is so true - especially after that Giants/Commanders game yesterday.
dfergie
Some tight games that went to the wire...
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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I noticed you missed last week's… Much like the SEC Shorts!😉
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I noticed you missed last week's… Much like the SEC Shorts!😉
I thought I posted it as I usually have nothing to do but sit at my desk in the morning scrolling the interwebs , but my mom passed away the day before so my mind was mush.
Ronnie-
I thought I posted it as I usually have nothing to do but sit at my desk in the morning scrolling the interwebs , but my mom passed away the day before so my mind was mush.
Sorry for your loss.
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24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
osu1991
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Can't help but wonder if a worker overlooked checking the harness. I rarely ride a roller coaster anymore but when I do I check the harness myself pretty aggressively.
Can't imagine what the son is going through.

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Jimbo
Back on the Goliath Roller Coaster ... I'm interested to find more details as well ...
Like where on the track did this happen (somewhere I read that it was on the climb up the top), which is impossible ...

They really need to take that ride and add at the very least, seatbelts ...

The Park is opening back up on Friday, the ride will Not be opening ... personally, I would keep it closed until different type of restraints can be designed and installed (over the winter).

I find it hard to believe that this ride is even allowed to be running with the restraints that exist at the moment, there are other rides that use the same type and they have been shut down across the country.

You got to believe that every ride has at least 2 types of restraint systems in place.

I wonder what and when we will hear from the Manufacturer ... and whatever governing bodies control these ...

Just think, this is a Major Amusement Park .... I would not have any problem getting on the Roller Coasters I have rode ...

Imagine what these County Fairs and others like them, I would not be caught Dead on one of them ... they get put up and tore down every other week, where is the safety for those rides ... No Thank You.
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I would not be caught Dead on one of them

Yet IF you were on one, you might be caught dead.
dishstaller
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
Jimbo
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
It makes sense, however, I would want more types of restraints, so if one doesn't work, the other does ... the restraints coming over the shoulder I would have expected ... with a Seat belt as last resort.

Fwiw, I inquired with what they use on Coasters at Cedar Point, various Coasters, different restraints according to what the car and track requires ...

NONE of the Coasters at CP use THAT particular system :)
I'm glad to see ...
dishstaller
with a Seat belt as last resort.
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
Jimbo
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
Well, the over the shoulder support is better, but would require reconfiguring the cars.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Foxbat
Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…
dishstaller
Well, I helped him set up a gmail acct....I actually wanted to see what the new process is for setting up a gmail acct since it had been years since I set mine up. Anyway, I showed him how to forward the emails he wanted to keep over.
navychop
If Earth had shorter days,

Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

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Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

🙄
Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…😉
K
Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

I still have one of those although I've been trying to wean myself off it.
JSheridan
Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.
dfergie
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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Best episode ever.
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Best episode ever.
I actually think the very first episode was One of the Best ...
S1 E1 Yankee White
Where it all started in what was it, 2003 ?

edit:
Sorry, I got the shows mixed up, were talking Origins ...
I've liked Most of them once we've gotten past the 1st 3-4, getting to know who was who took a bit in the beginning.
It's a bit harder seeing we already Know the person, then go back and see how they became that person.
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Mark Harmon is coming back as Gibbs in Origins, for the full season. Just saw, Dinozzo too, on NCIS . That will be an interesting writing project.
dfergie
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
R
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
Will the OG Gibbs be on NCIS or will Tony be on NCIS Origins?
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Rick Island LINE-Johnny Cash
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Rock And Roll All Nite - Kiss
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Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution - AC/DC
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Kiss - The Art Of Noise
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Beautiful Noise - Neil Diamond
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
dfergie
I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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I just received 6 receiver 2 port mini Multiswitch and it work great, no external power need it, and you can connect 6 receiver instead of 4 on most Mini Multiswitches... If anyone is interested in where they can get one PM me....
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Titanium
Have you tested using external power? Over the years, have found unpowered polarity switching to be unreliable. Especially problematic when used with DiSEqC motors or switch stacking.
H
No I have not. I just got it the other day and it is connected to six receivers working just fine. What I do is non power mini multi-switches work best with LNBF's and with LNB's
H
It also has a IPS and a OPS switch on the side of it with a power led light showing when is on. It seems to be very nice build switch
Bobby
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Wednesday 10-14, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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NASCAR, Freeway Insurance 500, Sunday 10-18, 12PM PDT, Channel 148-04.
Bobby
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Yeah. It's probably something going on with the MacBook as my iPhone has been pretty snappy.
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I have been optimizing the site the past few days... and got us here now. :) We are rocking now!

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Foxbat
Yeah. It's probably something going on with the MacBook as my iPhone has been pretty snappy.
I rebooted my MacBook Air and it's zipping right along. Sorry, but it was taking over 20 seconds to load pages, with the pulsing blue bars so it was munching on something.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱