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Hi,

I'll explain this in short so that there won't be
any problem understanding.

Back in 2005 and so on I joined in the
"CABLE ACCESS" channel group, locally.
And what I remembered very well, except
the brand makes and model number of
their DVR or PVR unit that has a hard drive
in it and it can record up to 30 hours, and
it has lots of RCA inputs connectors, such
as cameras, and satellite receiver, so that
they can record onto the hard drive, and
then outputs to their broadcasting.

They gave me their catalog of their
PVR recorder. And I don't know what
happen to it. I'm still looking for it.
Maybe in some boxes with video
accessories.

So, I was looking for something similar
for me, because you can't always relies
on a stand-alone DVD recorder, which is
like a VCR. But blank DVDs.
Sometimes I hate it, because you can't
always relies on stand alone DVD recorders.
You're NOT sure if it really recording.
And you don't have a hard drive in it, also.
Common, the stand alone DVD recorder
burped out my DVD-RW discs, and it
made me so mad. And wish I have a
backup such as that PVR unit I was
talking about would do it.

When you're recording something
that's on the air in "Real-time", you
just don't know what's happening
at your end with a DVD recorder.

Back then, VHS tape wasn't a problem
at all.

You can relax IF you have a PVR recorder.
But you can't relax with DVD recorder.

Thanks,
Eugene

ECruzBUD said:

Back in 2005 and so on I joined in the "CABLE ACCESS" channel group, locally. And what I remembered very well, except the brand makes and model number of their DVR or PVR unit that has a hard drive in it and it can record up to 30 hours, and it has lots of RCA inputs connectors, such as cameras, and satellite receiver, so that they can record onto the hard drive, and
then outputs to their broadcasting.

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Fast forward fifteen years and a couple of quantum leaps in home video technology and those kinds of devices are long-ago extinct.

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 has a lot to do with the demise of devices like you describe. As part of getting the certifications that are needed in a modern device (primarily the need that it support HDMI output), there are some show-stopping restrictions with what they can do in terms of analog I/O. Modern DVRs don't have analog inputs. This is why I recommended a computer capture device that does nothing but capture composite (or component) inputs. To my knowledge, there aren't any current (or even recently discontinued) capture devices that offer more than one composite input.

That said, just because a device has the right connectors, doesn't mean it will work for a particular purpose. Many analog capture devices are confounded by even lightweight copy protection schemes.

As I said, that ship has sailed.

As noted in the OP, the TS is looking specifically for a composite solution.

Why anyone would want to regress 15 years back in technology is something only the TS can explain but it seems to drive everything he does.

harshness said:

As noted in the OP, the TS is looking specifically for a composite solution.

Why anyone would want to regress 15 years back in technology is something only the TS can explain but it seems to drive everything he does.

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Ya - I wouldn't spend money on a dedicated recorder that only did SD, but I would spend the extra $25 on a composite to HDMI box and then purchase a recorder for recording the HDMI signal.

For this, probably the cheapest would be an old SD Tivo

harshness said:

Fast forward fifteen years and a couple of quantum leaps in home video technology and those kinds of devices are long-ago extinct.

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 has a lot to do with the demise of devices like you describe. As part of getting the certifications that are needed in a modern device (primarily the need that it support HDMI output), there are some show-stopping restrictions with what they can do in terms of analog I/O. Modern DVRs don't have analog inputs. This is why I recommended a computer capture device that does nothing but capture composite (or component) inputs. To my knowledge, there aren't any current (or even recently discontinued) capture devices that offer more than one composite input.

That said, just because a device has the right connectors, doesn't mean it will work for a particular purpose. Many analog capture devices are confounded by even lightweight copy protection schemes.

As I said, that ship has sailed.

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For once I agree with you, but the HDHome run flex records the OTA and FTA channels just fine. Of course I can shedule OTA, but all the Cband networks record fine manually. That includes wild feeds.

Comptech said:

For once I agree with you, but the HDHome run flex records the OTA and FTA channels just fine. Of course I can shedule OTA, but all the Cband networks record fine manually. That includes wild feeds.

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HDHomerun Flex devices are incapable of recording (much less "scheduling") so it misses out of the gate in satisfying the "DVR" requirement presented in the thread topic.

Flex products can only tune modulated digital TV signals (DTV, cable QAM and NextGenTV in the 4K models). They don't work with satellite channels nor do they work with modulated analog TV signals (that you might find coming from an older satellite receiver). They have no auxiliary inputs such as might be found on a ReplayTV or analog TiVo (which is fine since they cannot record).

This thread is a classic example of what not to do when trying to define a problem. The best approach to get a thoughtful answer is to give specific examples of what you have as inputs and what you want as the finished product and let the community try to suggest a solution. It is even more important today (versus 2005) with the "analog hole" effectively closed and where content is often infused with Digital Rights Management devices.

Um, maybe you need to investigate more. You know everything so you think. Channels DVR works fine withe the HD flex and you get a 14 day guide fully recordable. Maybe open brain before mouth.

Comptech said:

Channels DVR works fine withe the HD flex and you get a 14 day guide fully recordable.

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You didn't mention the Channels DVR in the post that I quoted. You explicitly said that the HDHomerun Flex records OTA and FTA. It absolutely does not.