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My wife is furious about the blockage of signal to KARE11 (NBC). I wonder how DIRECT TV handled the fee increase. Does anyone know?
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Howard Simmons
My wife is furious about the blockage of signal to KARE11 (NBC). I wonder how DIRECT TV handled the fee increase. Does anyone know?
Yes a price increase to the consumer. Anytime these disputes ends you can bet your bill will be higher when your contract is up. I can see modest increases because of other things but just to give in to these a**holes just isn't right.
S
Yes a price increase to the consumer. Anytime these disputes ends you can bet your bill will be higher when your contract is up. I can see modest increases because of other things but just to give in to these a**holes just isn't right.
Except no one is "just giving in". It's negotiations. Tegna (any owner) doesn't get as much as they ask for and Dish (any MVPD) gives more than they wanted. All the press releases (from both sides) is nothing more than "spin" to try to get folks on their side. Dish has had how many blackouts over the last 4-5 years? And our bills have gone up ~$5/year. How much of that is inflation, how much is the new retrans rates, and how much is for Dish profit?
rvvaquero
Tegna (any owner) doesn't get as much as they ask for and Dish (any MVPD) gives more than they wanted.
I'm not doubting your word, but how do you know this? Is this information publicly available? I thought the terms of the negotiations were kept secret.
Howard Simmons
I'm not doubting your word, but how do you know this? Is this information publicly available? I thought the terms of the negotiations were kept secret.
They are. I wish these company would publish they're annual earnings publicly. I guess I need to be a shareholder in these companies to see that.
chiodo
Who cares, I don't subscribe to locals anymore, if Dish reaches a settlement with TENGA &/or Sinclair and my rates go up because of it, or because of increases in Channels I don't watch, I will cancel and just use online streaming.
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NYDutch
Who cares, I don't subscribe to locals anymore, if Dish reaches a settlement with TENGA &/or Sinclair and my rates go up because of it, or because of increases in Channels I don't watch, I will cancel and just use online streaming.
Increasing locals retrans rates should only affect the locals subscriber fee. Actually, you're part of the reason Dish has an edge with Tegna in their negotiations. Tegna owns one or more stations in just 51 of the 210 DMA's. Dish has some percentage of each DMA's population as subscribers. From that number, subtract those like yourself that do not subscribe to the locals, and then subtract those that can watch the removed Tegna channel(s) from alternate sources such as OTA or streaming. And next, subtract those that don't watch the Tegna channels enough to even miss them, and those that simply switch to a different local channel for news, weather, etc, and what's left are the subscribers that might consider changing providers if they become sufficiently motivated to actually do it. Dish knows from experience approximately what percentage of that last group will actually switch if the outage lasts long enough, and can base their negotiations on how willing they are to risk those losses.
Howard Simmons
Increasing locals retrans rates should only affect the locals subscriber fee. Actually, you're part of the reason Dish has an edge with Tegna in their negotiations. Tegna owns one or more stations in just 51 of the 210 DMA's. Dish has some percentage of each DMA's population as subscribers. From that number, subtract those like yourself that do not subscribe to the locals, and then subtract those that can watch the removed Tegna channel(s) from alternate sources such as OTA or streaming. And next, subtract those that don't watch the Tegna channels enough to even miss them, and those that simply switch to a different local channel for news, weather, etc, and what's left are the subscribers that might consider changing providers if they become sufficiently motivated to actually do it. Dish knows from experience approximately what percentage of that last group will actually switch if the outage lasts long enough, and can base their negotiations on how willing they are to risk those losses.
Aren't you forgetting those in rural areas and those poor farmers that need their locals that Dish provides.
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NYDutch
Aren't you forgetting those in rural areas and those poor farmers that need their locals that Dish provides.
Do they need every local channel in their market all the time? And some percentage of them are in OTA range, while others have streaming capability from various Internet sources like cell or satellite if cable or DSL isn't available. I'm sure some percentage of them fall into the "could lose them" category, but certainly not all of them.
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They are. I wish these company would publish they're annual earnings publicly. I guess I need to be a shareholder in these companies to see that.
There are ALWAYS certain "numbers" NONE of these companies (and I mean all companies in all industries) ever releases because it may cause a consumer revolt. You're never gonna get the full disclosure from ANY company. Often, negotiated rates are subject to non-disclosure agreements, so we are SOL on those numbers too--but sometimes the press prints "likely" rates after research or may get documents leaked to them with posted rates.
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Do they need every local channel in their market all the time? And some percentage of them are in OTA range, while others have streaming capability from various Internet sources like cell or satellite if cable or DSL isn't available. I'm sure some percentage of them fall into the "could lose them" category, but certainly not all of them.
But a fair number of them have chosen to be included under "Must Carry." It is usually the networked affiliated or the really big "independents" who choose to negotiate rates because they often have programming that people in those DMA's want to watch (stations that MVPD's willing to pay for), whilst those who choose inclusion under "Must Carry" need an MVPD more than the MVPD needs that channel.
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NYDutch
But a fair number of them have chosen to be included under "Must Carry." It is usually the networked affiliated or the really big "independents" who choose to negotiate rates because they often have programming that people in those DMA's want to watch (stations that MVPD's willing to pay for), whilst those who choose inclusion under "Must Carry" need an MVPD more than the MVPD needs that channel.
"Must carry" stations are not an issue since they don't get taken down and the providers don't have a retrans contract with them.The Tegna take down only involves one, or two in a few DMA's, of the Big Four networks. The others are still available as alternatives for the relatively few that have no other options. It's a subset of those few that may choose to change providers. The rest will ride it out just as they have in the past for other take downs.
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jerryez
No matter what each station owner gets, all Dish subscribers get the same rate increase. The cost increase is spread over all subscribers. Dish and the stations win, we lose.
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Who cares, I don't subscribe to locals anymore, if Dish reaches a settlement with TENGA &/or Sinclair and my rates go up because of it, or because of increases in Channels I don't watch, I will cancel and just use online streaming.
Probably the people who get their locals through Dish care. Also, the increase of rates in channels you don't watch has been happening for a couple decades now.
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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See You in September - The Happenings
long_time_Dish
You Look Like You Love Me - Ella Langley
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dishstaller
See Me Feel Me - The Who
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long_time_Dish
Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band
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TAKE IT As It Comes-The Doors
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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dishdude
They didn't sell many, they were pricey and not out long. Quickly got replaced by the Hopper.
T
They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.
Former member 208119
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke :biggrin
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What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $4.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Jimbo
What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
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Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
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TRG
I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
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I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
Jimbo
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
You get an email every month to let you know they are billing you for the next month.
Foxbat
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
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Peter Parker
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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bookworm370
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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R
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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Bobby
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
This has been an ongoing issue. A fix is coming, probably in the next software version.
Foxbat
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
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dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
dishstaller
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.
harshness
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.
On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.
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Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
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dishstaller
A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic),
Both non-ethanol and prem run about the same....buck more. When we were up in TN it was a buck more up there as well.
jokeworm
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
Ok, I'm bored .... actually - to be more precise - I'm bored of eating the same rotation of 9 or 10 meals that are currently my "go-to" meals. My wife works the long hours - I work from home as and when i feel like it ... which means i generally do most of the cooking ... and so by default - i also make out the shopping list ...

We cook at home 5 or even 6 nights a week - but we always seem to fall back on the same old tried and tested "quick and easy but tastes ok" meals. Week in week out.

Pot Roast - mash and Peas.
Spaghetti
Chicken Pasta in cheese sauce.
Curry & rice
(these are some of mine)

Now it's not that I'm not adventurous in the kitchen ... I'll try anything once or twice ... but we all do it. Unless your name is Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray .. we all eventually fall back on our 8-10 favorite "meals"

So i thought - if we shared some of our own go-to meals with each other ... we might be able to add a few "new" ones to our own arsenal of meals.

So again - I ask you ...

What's for dinner tonight ?

Please give me something new to add to my rotation ... its our weekly shop tomorrow - so i want to pull together a few idea's and try and eat a meal each day next week that I've never had before .. or at least something that is not on my current "go-to" meal plan.

What meal do you always seem to fall back on in your house ? Maybe its something that I've never tried or not had in a while. I need inspiration !! I've got a blank shopping list in front of me - and nothing sounds good .. HELP !
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TRG
TRG
Beef and vegetable stew with buttermilk biscuits. Water.
It seemed appropriate on an unusually cold and wet evening in New Mexico.
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Bobby
Chili Cheesebugers, Tater Tots.
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TRG
I made shrimp parmesan with spaghetti and a salad.
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venison lasagna
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dishstaller
Smoked some salmon on the grill while enjoying some Blue Moon beer. Kinda cool tonight so I fired up the heaters. Here in FL, we fire up heaters once the temps get below 60 :cool As for the salmon, I seared them first, then flipped them off to the side not over the coals and brushed on some lemon pepper marinade followed by some salmon seasoning. Threw some hickory chips on the coals and then closed the vents to about 10% airflow. Yum.
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osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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navychop
Servant's problem.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
harshness
The EV company to watch out for is SAIC. They seem likely to take over Government Motors at some point.

GM originally struck a JV deal with SAIC to gain access to China. Now SAIC has taken China back with the substantial library of technology GM shared and they're looking to export to Mexico, South America, the Middle East, and Asia-Pacific.
osu1991
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Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Foxbat
They ought to have fun with this… :devilish
osu1991
They ought to have fun with this… :devilish
Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll call
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
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Foxbat
Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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