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I am now on my 4th Hopper since October 2022. Why> Because no technician wants to really do diagnostics for the issue and the simple result of each call is to reset the Hopper. The last tech was a local one who like the others defaulted to replacing the Hopper with a NON remanufactured one like all the others were. Here's the problem:

Randomly, now 15 times since 12/23/2022, during active use of the Dish while watching a live program OR watching a DVR recording, the Hopper turns off and a Screen Saver displays. If left alone at that point the TV Guide will begin to download! My POWER settings are 8 hours for inactivity and don't do anything until 3am. The resolution is simply pressing the SAT buttone on the remote turn the Hopper back on. Result is back to Live mode, or in the case where a DVR was being watched jump to the end.

I'vebeen strung along through a minimum of 15 different technicians who only follow their script to look up symptoms they hear and then possible solutions to return to normalcy. Not one had a way to actuallt diagnose WHY the power kept shutting off.

Since this problem happens across all Hoppers installed, software, all Hoppers, or house power is of question. I have replaced surge protectors to remove that from the equation. Not a surge protector. I have presently gotten through day 2 of plugging the surge protector into the secon wall socket in the receptacle. We'll see if that help. Next I supppse I have to check wall voltage and fluctuations.

But first, is anybody exle experiencing this problem? The last of 3 supervisiors, after 15 technician and 2 other supervisors, tells me it is a know software prblem. What am I to believe since none of the others did except for me mentioning a possibility on the 12/23/2022 calls. After getting blown out by all the others with just try Reset or Partial Reset, I knew day 1 this corrected the OFF situation. But, inreality the answer should have been a simple hit the SAT button which did the same thing.

I'm looking for others who experienced this problem to come forward.

I'm also look for guidance on how I can diagnose the actual cause. I read about voltage fluctuations and low voltage and checking receptacles and can work on these. One question I have is that ONLY the Hopper on the same surge protectory, even when plugged into different sockets has the issue. The TV (Samsung) and other electronic equipment (far from too much) remains constantly up.

Since October 2022 I reported 12 DIFFERENT DVR issues or OTA Adapter issues. I have already learned NOT to use Prime Video Application on the Hopper because it conflicts with the OTA and DVR. After stopping this problems were reduced about 80%. Probably memory corruption between the different components. The OTA itself seems suspect at time because the "Guide ot Trobleshoot" message came up periodically and double DVR recordings on OTA channel occurred with first one less that a minute (the start early minute) followed by the recording of the show. This I assume happened becaue when recording started IT got the "Guide or Troubleshoot" message and simply ended the recording, but did avtivate the channel connection in time for the second recording to continue. Many issues like this suggest hardware conflicts and software mismanagement.

I'd be interested in discussing any or all the issues I am seeing since NONE of them have been diagnosed to a root cause. Dish simply isn't interested in that! Thank you.

btw. I read some devices are too sensitive to voltage fluctuations. Could it be all Hoppers are? And, that is why a Hopper will shut off and other things dont? Where do I find technical specs to address this question?
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SO much for knocking on wood. The new Hopper 3 installed 1/5/23 failed last night 1/11/23 the same way after 3 other DVR failures and a poor satellite transmission to a live satellite channel. First, further testing I have done:

Outlet circuit: On the same circuit is ONE other receptacle and a light switch in a closet. Neither of these two are ever used. Thus we are essentially working with just the one outlet to which my surge protector is on. Unloaded (everyhitng off) records 122.2volts, exacly the same as all other circuits in the entire house. A voltage of 121.6 records when the Hopper3 and Samsung TV are ON. I also checked the gounding on the outlet and its working fine. The above tests were done on both sockets in the outlet AND in the surge protector (brand new as of 1/7/23). My conclusion is that Nothing in the house is causing the problem of the Hopper losing power! Uness one of you can tell what I missed.

Problems last night started with trying to delete a recording that I recorded erlier. It was started while actively watching the show (on a satellite channel). I went to DVR and it still showed RECORDING (Red dot) and no delete option was avaiable. I selected it and proceeded to do STOP RECORDING which evidentally was ignored. It still showed recording. Ten times I tried this and same results. This is NOT a new problem, but is the first time on this NEW HOPPER3 The only way to clear it from DVR recorded list is to reboot. Instead of rebooting, we decided to watch a live TV show again on a satellite channel different from the previous recording. This presented Problem 2: It woud be fine for about 4-6 minutes, then get a scrambled transmission for 2-4 seconds. This got repeated envery 4-5 minutes util watching the show was impossible. So, it was time to cleaar things and I hit the RED buttom on the Hopper 3 to reboot. It did but Problem Three now occurred - NO SOUND, only picture. So, I pulled the plug on the Hopper 3 and replugged after 30 seconds. Reboot again happended and sound was back.

Back to watching live show. But in about 8 minutes Probem 4 the one reported in this initial post occurred, i.e., Hopper 3 green light went off and screen saver on TV. I did not reply by hitting the SAT button on remote which clears this (presenting other issues, like jumping to end of a DVR recording...not the case anyway for this incident). Problem Five: TV Guide began download about 30% before switching back to screen save for a few minutes and then back to downloading and then back to screen saver, etc. I finally hit the SAT button and cleared all this AFTER all downloading was done.

I don't know if the other problems last night had anything to do with the Hopper 3 turning off (or in standby mode) with the screen saver displayed, only that it did again as before.

Of course I called the, let's not say technical Dish people, but the script-following cuesomer service people who transferred me to the so-called tech people. Once again, they were useless and ONLY typed in keywords to their database, extracted some possible cause and had me check it.This time it was back to the Inactivity setting now set to 4 hrs. This guy was as clueless as the others. Inactivity was NOT the problem. How active can I be than switching to a chennel, and watching it for about 10 minutes before the problems occurred ? At no time did I get more than 15-20 minutes of TV time in before the problems occurred and the Hopper switched off. So, he couldn't leave it there and proceeded to point to the Inactivity setting for the Samsung TV which he had no knowledge about. Not do I only that Inactivity was NOT the problem. It of course closed with him indicating that Dish software engineers were working on the KNOWN (Yeah, I put it on their plate!) issue. Another, goodbye, we're tired of talking to you.

DISH has NOT technician available ever to actually DIAGNOSE the issue. Thsi clown, like the others, hopped on my system and proceed to show their expertise moving around the settings. I proceeded to give them lessons!

Bottom line. The problem continues, in addition to the other 8-10 problems being reported to them since October 2022. Since my voltage on the circuit and grounding seem fine, I don't know what getting an electrician out here will do. I have considered running the power to the receiver through a different circuit, which would require an extention cord and probably even make it worse. Any suggestions? I'll take some recommendations on Internet TV Streaming services too at thsi time despite not seeing anything as nice as DISH usage functions. Thanks to all for the help.
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SO much for knocking on wood. The new Hopper 3 installed 1/5/23 failed last night 1/11/23 the same way after 3 other DVR failures and a poor satellite transmission to a live satellite channel. First, further testing I have done:

Outlet circuit: On the same circuit is ONE other receptacle and a light switch in a closet. Neither of these two are ever used. Thus we are essentially working with just the one outlet to which my surge protector is on. Unloaded (everyhitng off) records 122.2volts, exacly the same as all other circuits in the entire house. A voltage of 121.6 records when the Hopper3 and Samsung TV are ON. I also checked the gounding on the outlet and its working fine. The above tests were done on both sockets in the outlet AND in the surge protector (brand new as of 1/7/23). My conclusion is that Nothing in the house is causing the problem of the Hopper losing power! Uness one of you can tell what I missed.

Problems last night started with trying to delete a recording that I recorded erlier. It was started while actively watching the show (on a satellite channel). I went to DVR and it still showed RECORDING (Red dot) and no delete option was avaiable. I selected it and proceeded to do STOP RECORDING which evidentally was ignored. It still showed recording. Ten times I tried this and same results. This is NOT a new problem, but is the first time on this NEW HOPPER3 The only way to clear it from DVR recorded list is to reboot. Instead of rebooting, we decided to watch a live TV show again on a satellite channel different from the previous recording. This presented Problem 2: It woud be fine for about 4-6 minutes, then get a scrambled transmission for 2-4 seconds. This got repeated envery 4-5 minutes util watching the show was impossible. So, it was time to cleaar things and I hit the RED buttom on the Hopper 3 to reboot. It did but Problem Three now occurred - NO SOUND, only picture. So, I pulled the plug on the Hopper 3 and replugged after 30 seconds. Reboot again happended and sound was back.

Back to watching live show. But in about 8 minutes Probem 4 the one reported in this initial post occurred, i.e., Hopper 3 green light went off and screen saver on TV. I did not reply by hitting the SAT button on remote which clears this (presenting other issues, like jumping to end of a DVR recording...not the case anyway for this incident). Problem Five: TV Guide began download about 30% before switching back to screen save for a few minutes and then back to downloading and then back to screen saver, etc. I finally hit the SAT button and cleared all this AFTER all downloading was done.

I don't know if the other problems last night had anything to do with the Hopper 3 turning off (or in standby mode) with the screen saver displayed, only that it did again as before.

Of course I called the, let's not say technical Dish people, but the script-following cuesomer service people who transferred me to the so-called tech people. Once again, they were useless and ONLY typed in keywords to their database, extracted some possible cause and had me check it.This time it was back to the Inactivity setting now set to 4 hrs. This guy was as clueless as the others. Inactivity was NOT the problem. How active can I be than switching to a chennel, and watching it for about 10 minutes before the problems occurred ? At no time did I get more than 15-20 minutes of TV time in before the problems occurred and the Hopper switched off. So, he couldn't leave it there and proceeded to point to the Inactivity setting for the Samsung TV which he had no knowledge about. Not do I only that Inactivity was NOT the problem. It of course closed with him indicating that Dish software engineers were working on the KNOWN (Yeah, I put it on their plate!) issue. Another, goodbye, we're tired of talking to you.

DISH has NOT technician available ever to actually DIAGNOSE the issue. Thsi clown, like the others, hopped on my system and proceed to show their expertise moving around the settings. I proceeded to give them lessons!

Bottom line. The problem continues, in addition to the other 8-10 problems being reported to them since October 2022. Since my voltage on the circuit and grounding seem fine, I don't know what getting an electrician out here will do. I have considered running the power to the receiver through a different circuit, which would require an extention cord and probably even make it worse. Any suggestions? I'll take some recommendations on Internet TV Streaming services too at thsi time despite not seeing anything as nice as DISH usage functions. Thanks to all for the help.
I would say NOT an electrical problem, then.
Thinking outside the box, is there anything that could be causing interference like nearby radio towers, a CB base station, etc?

On the technicians portal on Dishes website, there is a recent discussion about Hoppers going into Standbye unexpectedly and it's been determined the problem is with a router renewing it's lease at a very short time.

One thing the software engineers have seen with these issues that occur at a consistent interval is that the DHCP lease in the router is set to a short time frame. When the lease expires, the connection will break and a reset of the Hopper will start a new lease.

Your DVR issues are sadly, not solely yours, sadly
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I would say NOT an electrical problem, then.
Thinking outside the box, is there anything that could be causing interference like nearby radio towers, a CB base station, etc?

On the technicians portal on Dishes website, there is a recent discussion about Hoppers going into Standbye unexpectedly and it's been determined the problem is with a router renewing it's lease at a very short time.

One thing the software engineers have seen with these issues that occur at a consistent interval is that the DHCP lease in the router is set to a short time frame. When the lease expires, the connection will break and a reset of the Hopper will start a new lease.

Your DVR issues are sadly, not solely yours, sadly
Don't understand why a Router would be involved with Satellite transmission. However, a better idea is what I just did. In Amarillo, the winds often blowing reguarly arond 35mph. Last evening the gusts made it above 60mph. Last post I mentioned the power off came after other problems, one of which was constant scrambling of the transmission. That got me thinking about the security of the dish itself. Well, the mechanical dish is secure. But, the cable that leads to the LNBs was no longer secure. The plastic ties the Dish techs used to secure the coax to the dish frame were complete deteriorated.--broken into small pieces leaving the cord to swing in the wind. Today I retied them securely with a rubber tie. I was led out there because the wind possibility and the correct answer I had asked Dish about any power running to the LNB that could be failing. I was told just yesterday that NO power ran to the dish, even after quoting a previous tech who said a current does run back to the LNB from the receiver. That latter answer seems correct. From my research I found an article that explains the need for low DC current running from receiver in the same coax back to the LNB to supply that power (approx 30 mV) and that a fluctuation there could cause the receiver to drop power. We'll see now. However, before this fix (hopefully) I mentioned connecting my receiver and its surge protector to a different house circuit. Done. I hooked the surge protector to an extension cord plugged into a different circuit. I don't think this would have had any difference. The voltage as reported previously was attained at 123.3 to the surge protector with no load to it. Thus, same as before essentially. I am betting on the wind and securing the coax from blowing. If it continues, I'll have to get up into the dish itself to locate the actual attachment to the LNB and ensure coax is secure there too. Wish me luck.
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Don't understand why a Router would be involved with Satellite transmission. However, a better idea is what I just did. In Amarillo, the winds often blowing reguarly arond 35mph. Last evening the gusts made it above 60mph. Last post I mentioned the power off came after other problems, one of which was constant scrambling of the transmission. That got me thinking about the security of the dish itself. Well, the mechanical dish is secure. But, the cable that leads to the LNBs was no longer secure. The plastic ties the Dish techs used to secure the coax to the dish frame were complete deteriorated.--broken into small pieces leaving the cord to swing in the wind. Today I retied them securely with a rubber tie. I was led out there because the wind possibility and the correct answer I had asked Dish about any power running to the LNB that could be failing. I was told just yesterday that NO power ran to the dish, even after quoting a previous tech who said a current does run back to the LNB from the receiver. That latter answer seems correct. From my research I found an article that explains the need for low DC current running from receiver in the same coax back to the LNB to supply that power (approx 30 mV) and that a fluctuation there could cause the receiver to drop power. We'll see now. However, before this fix (hopefully) I mentioned connecting my receiver and its surge protector to a different house circuit. Done. I hooked the surge protector to an extension cord plugged into a different circuit. I don't think this would have had any difference. The voltage as reported previously was attained at 123.3 to the surge protector with no load to it. Thus, same as before essentially. I am betting on the wind and securing the coax from blowing. If it continues, I'll have to get up into the dish itself to locate the actual attachment to the LNB and ensure coax is secure there too. Wish me luck.
Back in the day a technician would have checked everyhitng. Now they just want to swap out boards and Hoppers without prper diagnostics and thought. Hence, 4-5 Hopper 3 installs since October 2022 or phone "techs" who can't see anything not on the display in front of them. Sorry, just had to rant about today's work ethics. I'm an old f*rt.
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Don't understand why a Router would be involved with Satellite transmission. However, a better idea is what I just did. In Amarillo, the winds often blowing reguarly arond 35mph. Last evening the gusts made it above 60mph. Last post I mentioned the power off came after other problems, one of which was constant scrambling of the transmission. That got me thinking about the security of the dish itself. Well, the mechanical dish is secure. But, the cable that leads to the LNBs was no longer secure. The plastic ties the Dish techs used to secure the coax to the dish frame were complete deteriorated.--broken into small pieces leaving the cord to swing in the wind. Today I retied them securely with a rubber tie. I was led out there because the wind possibility and the correct answer I had asked Dish about any power running to the LNB that could be failing. I was told just yesterday that NO power ran to the dish, even after quoting a previous tech who said a current does run back to the LNB from the receiver. That latter answer seems correct. From my research I found an article that explains the need for low DC current running from receiver in the same coax back to the LNB to supply that power (approx 30 mV) and that a fluctuation there could cause the receiver to drop power. We'll see now. However, before this fix (hopefully) I mentioned connecting my receiver and its surge protector to a different house circuit. Done. I hooked the surge protector to an extension cord plugged into a different circuit. I don't think this would have had any difference. The voltage as reported previously was attained at 123.3 to the surge protector with no load to it. Thus, same as before essentially. I am betting on the wind and securing the coax from blowing. If it continues, I'll have to get up into the dish itself to locate the actual attachment to the LNB and ensure coax is secure there too. Wish me luck.
Power absolutely ruins back to the Dish. The receiver powers the LNB so it can receive signal.... jeez
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Back in the day a technician would have checked everyhitng. Now they just want to swap out boards and Hoppers without prper diagnostics and thought. Hence, 4-5 Hopper 3 installs since October 2022 or phone "techs" who can't see anything not on the display in front of them. Sorry, just had to rant about today's work ethics. I'm an old f*rt.
Don't worry, I'm a little old, too and of the check everything variety
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NOT the wind! NOT the house circuit! NOT overall power fluctuation! NOT surge protector. OTA Adapter?
I thought I nailed it when the historical wind measurements closely matched the occurrences. As I mentioned I secured the coax that was swinging in the wind. However, I have now had the third occurrence wince then. These happened at almost windless days/evenings and off different house circuits. The Hopper is the only device in the house that hiccups when this occurs. My conclusion is back to the oriignal now that I rued out poser fluctuations AND to answer one of the ther posts no interferences that are know to me., i.e,, radio signals, etc. The occurrences had begun in October/November 2022 on a Hopper I had for many years without a problem. So, it just started to happen, ha, to annoy me I guess. I also stated that several other problems occur 1-3 days before I get these, like DVR recordings being duplicated (error code 04 on the less than 1-minute first one before it ends and the second started), minor pixel scrambling live and DVR recording, recoring a live program only to not getting the recording, losing up to 10 seconds of just the sound on a recording. I even tried to simo=ulate the wind by shaking the coax and physical dish arm with LNB attached far more than any wind here wold do and it didn't fail. It just randomly does it on its own, which means SOFTWARE. But, I have one other variable that has caused problems since installed and that I need to consider based on the post re outside interferences. Mainly the OTA Adapter for local channels. This definitely has caused problems that appear to be memory corruptions with other dish functions, like DVR, Prime Video Application running off Dish. I didn't adequately explain these. I would like to disconnect the OTA Adapter, but the wife would kill me becasue she records programs off the local channels. I could tell Dish I want the local channels which I had at one time, but I believe this was a second Dish to collect these which has been removed. So, I'll live with the use of SAT button to recover from the Hopper power off! Unfortunately, I have to lve with the other problems too. If I peeked you interest re OTA Adapter, read on.
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OTA Adapter corruption: If the Dish Prime Video App is started all seems fine. Prime Vieo is connected and works fine UNTIL I start to get all kinds of random errors on live broadcasts, DVR issues, Prime Video issues when I need to reboot. I stopped using Prime Video via DISH by using switch to FIre TV directly instead and over 90% of all issues were eliminated completely. What I believe is happening is an issue that happened on early processor operating systems when common memory is shared. The menory gets fragmented first of all due to constant operations getting and releasing. However, sometimes little fragments were not eliminated completly and a "garbage collection routing" had to run to ensure even those stubs were deleted. Without that, one applications memory would overlay all or parts of another memory use. Very old problem from the late 70s. However, it seems to playing out with the combination of the OTA Adapter and the Hopper. And eliminating Prime Video from the equation may not have been the cause, but a result and acceleration of memory problems. The OTA Adapter is the single element now that sticks out like a sore thumb since some of the problems I am having with DVR are identical to those back then with Prime Video running. I'd be interested in knowing if similar problems are occuring on other Hoppers that have an OTA Adapter installed. NEVER had a problem with old V722 Receiver which had OTA Antenna directly connected to the box. Just having problems with this OTA Adapter.
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Daisy Ridley to Star in New Take on 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' at Paramount+

I'm not usually a fan of remakes but the description provided in the article does intrigue me.
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Daisy Ridley to Star in New Take on 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' at Paramount+

I'm not usually a fan of remakes but the description provided in the article does intrigue me.
I use to watch that with my Dad back in the (60's ?) was that the 60's ?
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I use to watch that with my Dad back in the (60's ?) was that the 60's ?
Mid 60's. I watched it too.
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I loved all the Irwin Allen productions.
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Daisy Ridley to Star in New Take on 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' at Paramount+

I'm not usually a fan of remakes but the description provided in the article does intrigue me.
When?
Foxbat
Mid 60's. I watched it too.
I had built models of the Seaview and the Flying Sub as a kid.
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I loved all the Irwin Allen productions.
I thought Voyage was decent (for the first two seasons). The rest, not so much. All other shows were pretty lame, IMO. Especially Land of the Giants.
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Daisy Ridley to Star in New Take on 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea' at Paramount+

I'm not usually a fan of remakes but the description provided in the article does intrigue me.
Barbara Even, LOL (cast of original film from article).
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Don't know if any of you have watched this series yet, it would be interesting to see if you feel this review was accurate. It was very humorous to listen to however.


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What a "pile of slop" review! I liked the show.
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I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
You are paying for the whole thing
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You are paying for the whole thing
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
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Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
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I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
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I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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The larger discrepancies are likely from a data or sync issue. Digital tags don't cause the error, but they can spread one bad entry across a whole store or region instantly. The small cent differences are probably just rounding in the weight, the price data, or both.
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Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
Is it real Ice-cream?
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Is it real Ice-cream?
Is it Real Ice cream ???
Depends on what your talking about.
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Is it Real Ice cream ???
Depends on what your talking about.
Most don't have any milk in them
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The larger discrepancies are likely from a data or sync issue. Digital tags don't cause the error, but they can spread one bad entry across a whole store or region instantly. The small cent differences are probably just rounding in the weight, the price data, or both.
It's simple math. You take the price and divide by the number of ounces and come up with the price per ounce. I find it hard to believe that Walmart's computers can't carry out simple division.
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It's simple math. You take the price and divide by the number of ounces and come up with the price per ounce. I find it hard to believe that Walmart's computers can't carry out simple division.
The division isn't the problem, the inputs are. On the Starbucks pods, $9.22 @ $3.35/oz works out to 2.75 oz, but the box is 1.94 oz. So either the system has the wrong weight on file, or the unit price is left over from an older price of about $6.50 that never got updated. Garbage in, garbage out. Walmart's had unit-pricing data problems before, too - in 2024 they paid $1.64M to settle with New Jersey after inspectors found 2,000+ instances of unit prices using the wrong unit of measure.
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Most don't have any milk in them
*nit pick* You want cream or more precisely FAT to make ice cream. Milk isn't heavy enough. When making my own, I use half and half.
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The division isn't the problem, the inputs are. On the Starbucks pods, $9.22 @ $3.35/oz works out to 2.75 oz, but the box is 1.94 oz. So either the system has the wrong weight on file, or the unit price is left over from an older price of about $6.50 that never got updated. Garbage in, garbage out. Walmart's had unit-pricing data problems before, too - in 2024 they paid $1.64M to settle with New Jersey after inspectors found 2,000+ instances of unit prices using the wrong unit of measure.
Wrong unit of measure? Having a hard time believing that or were they conflating solid and fluid ounces (stupid US measuring system).

The first two coffees aren't off on the same amount, so likely the unit price is linked to some previous price. Now I have to *bleeping* double check more math? Does anyone check anything anymore? Bad enough in the professional world having to QA/QC a third party's work. Don't want to have to do that in the grocery store now too! Not with the absurd measures that are used in the US. Is that unit price for blueberries in ounces or pints...

First world problems, but man... argh!!!
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Wrong unit of measure? Having a hard time believing that or were they conflating solid and fluid ounces (stupid US measuring system).

Not with the absurd measures that are used in the US. Is that unit price for blueberries in ounces or pints...

You always have the option of moving to a country that uses a unit of measurement that better suits your needs.
dishstaller
Thought this might be a nice diversion, this same guy audited Publix's package weight....yes, I know this is different from the original post on this thread.....and it was accurate.


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You always have the option of moving to a country that uses a unit of measurement that better suits your needs.
So easily offended. Never understand how it is considered audacious to consider thinking a base 10 measuring system is easier (minus regressively sourced engineering) than arbitrary and inconsistent units.
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
ncted
Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
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Comcast called fiber pricing "irrational" because the ROI is over three years. What is irrational to me is Comcast internet is based on lines they put in the ground decades ago at this point, for the most part. Is copper that much more expensive to maintain?
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
(((Garyd)))
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
Jimbo
The fiber coming in to the house looks like 300 ohm old TV wire I think that is the weak point.
The weak point would be the connection between the outdoor feed and the indoor feed.
Jimbo
yes. even copper lines in a house degrade over 70 years, I doubt coax would last that long. Fiber Optic on the isp side will last over 70 years with very dedgration
Copper lines are fine ... until it hits the AIR.
Bruce
Losing 144,000 internet customers surprises me more.
They have been losing broadband subscribers for about 4 years now.

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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Sara Smile - Hall and Oates
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When I See You Smile - Bad English
long_time_Dish
Bad To The Bone - George Thorogood & The Destroyers
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BAD Is BAD-Huey Lewis And The News
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This Diamond Ring - Gary Lewis And The Playboys
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Didn't see a thread like this so I figured why not start one. This is about natural supplements. If you aren't into supplements, fine, but please let those of us who do want to discuss this discuss it.

The first one I wanted to mention has been a real life changer. I'm 62 and still do all of my own install work at my business....also do all the yard work at the house. A few years ago I started noticing that I was losing my range of movement, it was even getting hard to bend over and lace up my boots. Almost got stuck in an attic because I couldn't get turned around once the work was done. Didn't think much of it and figured with age comes stiffness that was only going to get worse as time went on.
It was then that I stumbled across a video which was discussing rotator cuff tears and why they were to prevalent these days. Turns out, the culprit is a simple deficiency in MANGANESE which is key in keeping your tendons flexible. Most anti-biotics strip your body of any manganese it might have had which is why certain anti-biotics, especially those in the Cipro family. I actually knew a man who had two tendons tear while on that stuff.
Went to Amazon and ordered some manganese. Now it took a while, it wasn't instant, but gradually I have regained all of my flexibility. I can bend over and touch my toes while standing with no pain and putting on my boots is no longer a chore.
Pretty cheap too. The bottle I ordered was a 200 ct for under $13. They said to take double the normal dose for the first month because most people are severely lacking, then go to one a day.
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(((Garyd)))
Didn't see a thread like this so I figured why not start one. This is about natural supplements. If you aren't into supplements, fine, but please let those of us who do want to discuss this discuss it.

The first one I wanted to mention has been a real life changer. I'm 62 and still do all of my own install work at my business....also do all the yard work at the house. A few years ago I started noticing that I was losing my range of movement, it was even getting hard to bend over and lace up my boots. Almost got stuck in an attic because I couldn't get turned around once the work was done. Didn't think much of it and figured with age comes stiffness that was only going to get worse as time went on.
It was then that I stumbled across a video which was discussing rotator cuff tears and why they were to prevalent these days. Turns out, the culprit is a simple deficiency in MANGANESE which is key in keeping your tendons flexible. Most anti-biotics strip your body of any manganese it might have had which is why certain anti-biotics, especially those in the Cipro family. I actually knew a man who had two tendons tear while on that stuff.
Went to Amazon and ordered some manganese. Now it took a while, it wasn't instant, but gradually I have regained all of my flexibility. I can bend over and touch my toes while standing with no pain and putting on my boots is no longer a chore.
Pretty cheap too. The bottle I ordered was a 200 ct for under $13. They said to take double the normal dose for the first month because most people are severely lacking, then go to one a day.
Chia Seeds
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Chia Seeds
Kinda the whole idea is to mention something and explain WHY it is something we might want to add to our daily routine.
This is what I got from google. Looks like I'm going to be adding them, thanks

Key Health Benefits
    • Digestive Health: One ounce (28 grams) of chia seeds provides nearly 10 grams of fiber, which promotes regular bowel movements, feeds beneficial gut bacteria, and helps prevent constipation. [1, 2]
    • Heart and Cardiovascular Support: Rich in alpha-linolenic acid (ALA)—an essential plant-based omega-3 fatty acid—chia seeds can help lower blood pressure, reduce triglycerides, and improve cholesterol profiles. [1, 2, 3]
    • Blood Sugar Regulation: The combination of soluble fiber and protein slows down carbohydrate digestion, preventing sharp blood sugar spikes after meals. [1, 2]
    • Weight Management: When soaked in liquid, chia seeds absorb up to 10 to 12 times their weight in water. The resulting gel expands in the stomach, increasing feelings of fullness and curbing appetite. [1, 2, 3]
    • Bone Strength: They contain high levels of calcium, magnesium, and phosphorus, which are vital for maintaining bone density. [1, 2, 3]
    • Antioxidant Protection: Compounds like chlorogenic acid and caffeic acid help fight cellular damage from free radicals and reduce chronic inflammation. [1, 2, 3]
(((Garyd)))
Kinda the whole idea is to mention something and explain WHY it is something we might want to add to our daily routine.
This is what I got from google. Looks like I'm going to be adding them, thanks

Key Health Benefits
    • Digestive Health: One ounce (28 grams) of chia seeds provides nearly 10 grams of fiber, which promotes regular bowel movements, feeds beneficial gut bacteria, and helps prevent constipation. [1, 2]
    • Heart and Cardiovascular Support: Rich in alpha-linolenic acid (ALA)—an essential plant-based omega-3 fatty acid—chia seeds can help lower blood pressure, reduce triglycerides, and improve cholesterol profiles. [1, 2, 3]
    • Blood Sugar Regulation: The combination of soluble fiber and protein slows down carbohydrate digestion, preventing sharp blood sugar spikes after meals. [1, 2]
    • Weight Management: When soaked in liquid, chia seeds absorb up to 10 to 12 times their weight in water. The resulting gel expands in the stomach, increasing feelings of fullness and curbing appetite. [1, 2, 3]
    • Bone Strength: They contain high levels of calcium, magnesium, and phosphorus, which are vital for maintaining bone density. [1, 2, 3]
    • Antioxidant Protection: Compounds like chlorogenic acid and caffeic acid help fight cellular damage from free radicals and reduce chronic inflammation. [1, 2, 3]
Andy it builds your bones if I had used it in my food all my life I would not have the joint issues I have there is 3 types of calcium only the one from real foods build better bones


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if I had used it in my food all my life I would not have the joint issues
I have taken this stuff for years to help my joints. Over 20 yrs ago my shoulder sounded like it had gravel in it when I rotated it. Started taking this and after a few months I had my range of motion back. I mentioned this product to a doctor and told him the results I had and he totally blew it off....said it was just a coincidence. This has no shellfish like most joint supplements.

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I have taken this stuff for years to help my joints. Over 20 yrs ago my shoulder sounded like it had gravel in it when I rotated it. Started taking this and after a few months I had my range of motion back. I mentioned this product to a doctor and told him the results I had and he totally blew it off....said it was just a coincidence. This has no shellfish like most joint supplements.

IT FIXED my wife's shoulder and knee pain, I only wish I took it before I got into Sat in 83, that beat my body up, I'm still here I turn 85 on the 31th
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I have taken this stuff for years to help my joints. Over 20 yrs ago my shoulder sounded like it had gravel in it when I rotated it. Started taking this and after a few months I had my range of motion back. I mentioned this product to a doctor and told him the results I had and he totally blew it off....said it was just a coincidence. This has no shellfish like most joint supplements.


This would be good for me being I am allergic to shellfish. I have arthritis bad in my right sholder.
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TRG
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
HipKat
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
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IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
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T
Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko?

YOU WERE RIGHT. IT IS WORKING NOW WITH 2X AMPS !!

DAN
primestar31
Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko?

YOU WERE RIGHT. IT IS WORKING NOW WITH 2X AMPS !!

DAN
That's great!

Many people have all sorts of power bricks laying around. Provided the plug fits, and it's the right polarity and same voltage and the same OR higher amps, why not try another one IF the device you want to try it on doesn't seem to work right.
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That's great!

Many people have all sorts of power bricks laying around. Provided the plug fits, and it's the right polarity and same voltage and the same OR higher amps, why not try another one IF the device you want to try it on doesn't seem to work right.
primestar31,

Could you explain to me what a power brick is ?
Thanks,

John
primestar31
primestar31,

Could you explain to me what a power brick is ?
Thanks,

John
Some people just call them power supplies (which really isn't a good fit in this case), some call them "wall adapters" but it's an external power supply or AC adapter that converts (AC) from a wall outlet into low-voltage (DC) that an electronic device needs to run.
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[Give us a summary of what you receive with a 6-footer. I'm very curious.]

Right now on C band getting 105w, a Mexican channel with 95% quality and I am near Detroit! I'm recording a TECHNO MUSIC FESTIVAL today from Mexico ..if you can believe it.....and yes that SHED is partly in the path so I'm puzzled. There are also christian channels on 105w.
cyberham
...Right now on C band getting 105w, a Mexican channel with 95% quality...
105W has some very strong transponders. I received more than four transponders using a 41-inch dish recently. See here.
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Can't help but wonder if a worker overlooked checking the harness. I rarely ride a roller coaster anymore but when I do I check the harness myself pretty aggressively.
Can't imagine what the son is going through.

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Jimbo
Heres an article from the Akron Beacon ... seeing Six Flags has bought Cedar Point and Kings Island, they are included ...
I said earlier that Cedar Point doesn't use this type of seat restraint ... well, it does use it, But the difference is, the ones up here ALSO have the Over the shoulder restraint as well ... like I was suggesting that they should have used with the Goliath.

One of the new(er) one at Cedar point the Gate Keeper, uses the Clam shell .. I have rode it many times and have Mostly felt secure, that ride will stop you part way on the ride and you just hang, till the ride is ready to continue ... I typically ride the Front Car ... when its getting ready, you ARE hanging, in the car, looking down .... it would require 2 separate restraint systems to unlock at the same time to possibly get out of it.

dishstaller
UPDATE: Six Flags is adding seatbelts to all 9 rollercoasters

Jimbo
UPDATE: Six Flags is adding seatbelts to all 9 rollercoasters

Finally ....
dishstaller
Finally ....
It DOES kinda seem like a simple safety feature.
Jimbo
It DOES kinda seem like a simple safety feature.
IKR !
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Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
harshness
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes.
That is your right.

I couldn't buy hiding behind the dirty-feet argument.
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Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
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Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ... :biggrin
long_time_Dish
Well, look at the way she sat in the Captain's Chair. I didn't say the show should have been called "Captain Chair-Whore" for nothing...
primestar31
Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
star trek GIF by HULU


Just sayin...
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