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Receivers compatable in a new install

As everyone knows by now, my grandpa is going to get dish, what receivers besides the hopper are comparable with a sat that gets installed at this current point in time for new installs with a hopper 2. Would a vip222k or a 211k or a 722k work? Or would it be incompatible
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If you get a hopper installed it will be with hybrid equipment and is not compatible with vip receivers. There's ways to do it from a single dish but requires a different configuration and external switches that the tech isn't going to install for you. You would need to buy it all yourself.
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tjboston5676 said:
hybrid equipment and is not compatible with vip receivers.
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Not exactly. Hybrid equipment has a DPP retro compatibility mode, I have gone as far back as connecting a 322 to a Hybrid LNBF without issue. The LNBF does have limitations, like disabling port 2 in the presence of a Hybrid receiver, but you can run dual 722's or even dual Hopper1/2's on one if you really needed to.
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ethanlerma said:
Not exactly. Hybrid equipment has a DPP retro compatibility mode, I have gone as far back as connecting a 322 to a Hybrid LNBF without issue. The LNBF does have limitations, like disabling port 2 in the presence of a Hybrid receiver, but you can run dual 722's or even dual Hopper1/2's on one if you really needed to.
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Technically sure they will work but it's not designed for it and can cause issues down the road. (I said can not will, it may not). But it's always best to use what it was designed to be used with.
Port two is only disabled when used with a hopper3
And we've always been able to run dual hopper 1 and 2, as it's designed for that.
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tjboston5676 said:
Technically sure they will work but it's not designed for it and can cause issues down the road. (I said can not will, it may not).
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Unless it's a power draw issue (which I guess is entirely posible especially with how weird slimlines can be), I don't see any issues as DPP tech is interoperable with DPX (I'll elaborate below).

tjboston5676 said:
But it's always best to use what it was designed to be used with.
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Oh yeah, for sure. If I worked for Dish or any of their contractors (with the current Dish as it is, I probably wouldn't) I would stick to what's in the book more then anything as a CYA, but a little bit of "this will work in a pinch" knowledge never hurts.

tjboston5676 said:
Port two is only disabled when used with a hopper3
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And Duo's/Wally, even though they would be fine with DPP. On the flip side you can channel stack them which is neat.

tjboston5676 said:
And we've always been able to run dual hopper 1 and 2, as it's designed for that.
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Now back to DPX. DPX is just a DPP signal with a third tuner stacked on top, and is what the Hopper1/2 requires for its three tuners. In the past a Node would perform the stacking of the third tuner with DPP setups, and now Hybrid LNBs have this functionality integrated from the get go. When you connect a DPP (dual tuner) receiver to a DPX line, or a DP (solo tuner) receiver to a DPP/DPX line, the receiver simply ignores the unnecessary tuners on the upper end of the frequency spectrum and uses what it needs on the lower end. This has been the case since the way early days of the DPP33/44 being capable of feeding a DP111 (heh remember that piece of garbage?). What I'm getting at in conclusion is that the underlying technology (DPX) is not only technically compatible, but quite literally by design made to be interoperable with DP/DPP as well. So:

Hybrid capable of DPX = capable of DPP/DP.

Again, and you are absolutely in the right here, if there was (for example) some oversight where VIP's provide too-little/too-much power to a connected Hybrid LNB then that could be an issue, but the fact that the technology and underlying architecture is 100% compatible makes me think that that would be a hell of a screw up.
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ethanlerma said:
Unless it's a power draw issue (which I guess is entirely posible especially with how weird slimlines can be), I don't see any issues as DPP tech is interoperable with DPX (I'll elaborate below).


Oh yeah, for sure. If I worked for Dish or any of their contractors (with the current Dish as it is, I probably wouldn't) I would stick to what's in the book more then anything as a CYA, but a little bit of "this will work in a pinch" knowledge never hurts.


And Duo's/Wally, even though they would be fine with DPP. On the flip side you can channel stack them which is neat.


Now back to DPX. DPX is just a DPP signal with a third tuner stacked on top, and is what the Hopper1/2 requires for its three tuners. In the past a Node would perform the stacking of the third tuner with DPP setups, and now Hybrid LNBs have this functionality integrated from the get go. When you connect a DPP (dual tuner) receiver to a DPX line, or a DP (solo tuner) receiver to a DPP/DPX line, the receiver simply ignores the unnecessary tuners on the upper end of the frequency spectrum and uses what it needs on the lower end. This has been the case since the way early days of the DPP33/44 being capable of feeding a DP111 (heh remember that piece of garbage?). What I'm getting at in conclusion is that the underlying technology (DPX) is not only technically compatible, but quite literally by design made to be interoperable with DP/DPP as well. So:

Hybrid capable of DPX = capable of DPP/DP.

Again, and you are absolutely in the right here, if there was (for example) some oversight where VIP's provide too-little/too-much power to a connected Hybrid LNB then that could be an issue, but the fact that the technology and underlying architecture is 100% compatible makes me think that that would be a hell of a screw up.
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As somewhat related to this issue, I currently have a DPP LNB driving a Hybrid DPU42 switch that then drives a Hopper3 and VIP receiver. Has been working just fine. But it looks like that DPP LNB may be getting sick and could need replacing (it's very old).

Instead just replacing it with another DPP LNB, could I use a Hybrid LNB to feed into the Hybrid DPH42 switch and still drive the Hopper3 and VIP receiver?

I assume that would just connecting ports 1 and 2 of the Hybrid LNB to ports 1 and 2 of the DPH42 And nothing on the output side the switch would need to change.
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RTCDude said:
Instead just replacing it with another DPP LNB, could I use a Hybrid LNB to feed into the Hybrid DPH42 switch and still drive the Hopper3 and VIP receiver?

I assume that would just connecting ports 1 and 2 of the Hybrid LNB to ports 1 and 2 of the DPH42 And nothing on the output side the switch would need to change.
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This will work, but you would be in the previously mentioned "works but not by design" territory. If you are feeling adventurous or just want something temporary you can try and see if it holds up, but if you don't want to risk possibly damaging your equipment you're better off getting a new DPP (good luck finding one).

If you do end up using a Hybrid LNB let us know after a few months your findings, previously people have posted having success doing it but never reported anything back.
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This will work, but you would be in the previously mentioned "works but not by design" territory. If you are feeling adventurous or just want something temporary you can try and see if it holds up, but if you don't want to risk possibly damaging your equipment you're better off getting a new DPP (good luck finding one).

If you do end up using a Hybrid LNB let us know after a few months your findings, previously people have posted having success doing it but never reported anything back.
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That's what I thought, thanks. And Solid Signal still sells DPP LNBs.

Do you have any specific thoughts about what might get damaged, or is your comment just about "works but not by design" unknowns.
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And Solid Signal still sells DPP LNBs.
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Can almost guarantee they are refurbs. You never know though.

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Do you have any specific thoughts about what might get damaged, or is your comment just about "works but not by design" unknowns.
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You pretty much hit the nail on the head, it's unknowns. If you search the forum you will find some people it worked for, and I even tried it out myself out of curiosity and the switch identified the LNB without an issue. The problem is that we don't have any factual evidence of the setup being reliable in the long run. In my case I had to go back to a DPP because a Hybrid LNB can only feed two satellites and back then 129 was still necessary. I could theorize all day about what may or may not happen but at the end of the day it would all be theory until you have actual long term testing in the field. To make matters worst, Dish being a national service makes the amount of variables to consider almost impossible to keep up with.

I'll give you an example that is similar in nature to what we are talking about, but with much more exposure: Both wired and wireless Joey's can communicate via Ethernet to their host Hopper. This is a well known thing that Dish does not condone/recommend. I won't dive in to the details on why this works, but the theory is similar in that the underlying technology being used over MoCA/WiFi is the same if you connect via Ethernet meaning it's another "works but not by design". The difference here is that there has been years and years of people having success with this setup, myself included with my hardwired Wireless Joey, that the community has pretty much established it as a posible alternative if your coax run gets damaged or the wireless reception sucks at the Joey location.
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Can almost guarantee they are refurbs. You never know though.
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Oh yes, I assume almost all Dish equipment on Solid Signal is refurbs or overstock. It's all we have to work with these days. :)
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If you search the forum you will find some people it worked for, and I even tried it out myself out of curiosity and the switch identified the LNB without an issue. The problem is that we don't have any factual evidence of the setup being reliable in the long run. In my case I had to go back to a DPP because a Hybrid LNB can only feed two satellites and back then 129 was still necessary.
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A good point I didn't explicitly state. I wouldn't even consider this option if it weren't for the fact that 129 is now decommissioned and we now only need two satellites for the WA.

But I think we can put some "unknowns" in perspective. The fact that multiple folks have tried this out (including yourself) indicates there's likely a low probability that something electrical would go wrong; i.e., burn something up. We would have likely already heard about that by now if something catastrophic happens when this was tried. But then as you correctly point out, only long term testing/use would bear that conclusion out.

Also, since it seems to work, it would also seem that from a protocol standpoint there's likely a low probability of failure. But the caveat again, we'd have to try all permutations to prove that.

Hence, given all of this, it would seem to be low risk to use this configuration (though I can't help but think of the quote " famous last words" :eeek). So I will likely try this out and consider myself a guinea pig for everyone else.

BTW, a buddy ask me a question, can a Hopper1/2 be driven by Hybrid switches and hubs?
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BTW, a buddy ask me a question, can a Hopper1/2 be driven by Hybrid switches and hubs?
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Yep, same as with the LNB. There wouldn't be any reason to do so unless you intended to have a mixed Hopper3/Hopper1 or Hopper3/Hopper2 setup, as a Hybrid LNB can drive 2 of either at the same time without the switch.
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Xbox Rumored Game Pass Overhaul

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Starlink Router question

I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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NHL game channels

Looks like DTV made a deal. I'm now getting it on ch 650. The tv promise slate is gone.
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A few teams got a deal. Was posted yesterday in the Directv update thread
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DIRECTV today announced a new multi-year distribution agreement with the National Hockey League for Hurricanes Hockey Network, Blue Jackets Hockey Network, Wild+, and Blue Note+ pregame, postgame, and in-game live sports services.

Each of the four channels will be available to DIRECTV streaming and satellite customers who live in each team's NHL-designated home territory and subscribe to Choice and higher packages, and each U-verse customer in those same regions who subscribes to U200 and above.

This agreement also provides distribution rights to each NHL team to all of DIRECTV FOR BUSINESS's thousands of sports bars, restaurants, fitness clubs, and other commercial venues located within each team's respective region.

DIRECTV has recently obtained regional or local rights to provide 76 of the 81 U.S.-based NHL, NBA, or MLB franchises to their local fans, including multi-year agreements for 23 U.S.-based hockey teams.
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Now let's get the NBA game channels going.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


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dbrand Forced me to do This Review

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You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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Juan said:
You are paying for the whole thing
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Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
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Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
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I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
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Jimbo said:
I would think that the Vendor/Maker of the product would have a say in it, showing the Correct weight ...
You would think it would be in the contract.

I do look at the ounces of items, but unless its way off, I don't check the math, may have to start now.

Remember when you use to get a 13.5 oz bag of Chips .... Thats a PARTY Size now.
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I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
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I remember when a pound of coffee was 16oz. Now its 12oz, they don't call it a pound anymore and its three times the cost of the 16oz pound.
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Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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Jimbo said:
Well, they don't call it a pound anymore ....

Ice cream is that way too, use to be a half gallon, now its 1.5 quart or some say 48 oz
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We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
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NYDutch said:
We have a regional ice cream company here that advertises that their ice cream containers are still a full half gallon.
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Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
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Jimbo said:
Now check and see if any of them (probably a few) are actual Ice Cream ...

Most Ice Creams are Not actual Ice Cream.
Bryers for example, call Most of thiers "Frozen Dairy Dessert"
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I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
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I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
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$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.
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I only buy Tillamook and Alden's ice cream. The first ingredients are milk and cream.
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1st Big Question is ... How Much Sugar is in it and Sodium and Carbs ...
I' m really not suppose to have Ice Cream, or at least Moderately ....
Depending on the amount of sugar and sodium (don't think theres sodium in it, but Carbs probably is.)
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$7.50 a 1/2 gallon, thats worse than Bryers price wise.
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I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.
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$5.69 for the 48oz of Rocky Road at my Walmart.
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I'll give that a try next time, if I can find some in the right sugar areas.
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22g per serving.
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Bobby said:
22g per serving.
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How much is a serving?
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How much is a serving?
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2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.
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Bobby said:
$5.69 for the 48oz of Rocky Road at my Walmart.
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Apparently my local Walmart doesn't carry that brand Tillamook ...
Kroger does .... Vanilla Bean $7.49 for 1.5 quart

Up here I have options of :
Vanilla Bean, French Vanilla, Cookies and Cream, Mud Slide and Strawberry

I will try the Strawberry and see what I think, IF the Sugar isn't any more than 22g ... it's Quite expensive.

Target does show it, cheaper, $5.99, however thier website says Not Sold in Store, closest store that carries it is 39 Miles away ....
I guess I better wait till WINTER to get it .. if it's that far away.

I'll have to check and see if Meijer has it ... YES they do ... $7.49 and a variety of Flavors
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Bobby said:
2/3 of a cup, a large scoop.
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Awwww. You missed your chance to say "22 grams."
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Jimbo said:
don't think theres sodium in it
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According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.
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According to "Miss A"" there is. Especially for higher end ones.
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I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...
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Jimbo said:
I did look into that ... the ones I get have about 65mg, which is very little ... but then I wouldn't expect much to be in Ice Cream.
Carbs are more than I would have liked ...
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Apparently my local Walmart doesn't carry that brand Tillamook ...
Kroger does .... Vanilla Bean $7.49 for 1.5 quart

Up here I have options of :
Vanilla Bean, French Vanilla, Cookies and Cream, Mud Slide and Strawberry

I will try the Strawberry and see what I think, IF the Sugar isn't any more than 22g ... it's Quite expensive.

Target does show it, cheaper, $5.99, however thier website says Not Sold in Store, closest store that carries it is 39 Miles away ....
I guess I better wait till WINTER to get it .. if it's that far away.

I'll have to check and see if Meijer has it ... YES they do ... $7.49 and a variety of Flavors
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It goes on sale all the time here. Like NOW! I'm gonna go stock up today. This is at Albertsons.
BTW I don't buy Ice cream for it's nutritional value. But I understand that some people need to keep an eye on that sort of thing for personal health reasons.

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Bruce
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How things have changed

I was reading this article

thehill.com

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…
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That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Bruce said:
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...

You have services like Hulu Live and You Tube TV that do, what you call Cable, but they ARE Streaming, so Which is is ?

Does it get counted 2x as both Streaming and Cable ?
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But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

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Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
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But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

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Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
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But they are basically airing a number of live channels just like Broadcast, Cable, and Others so that is why they are counted that way.
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Jimbo said:
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

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Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

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Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
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Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
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If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
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If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
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Nielsen Streaming Ratings: Third-party measurement firm Nielsen tracks U.S. streaming viewership, releasing weekly reports that measure total minutes viewed across major television sets, broken down by program (such as original, acquired, and movie content) rather than minute-by-minute audience retention curves.
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Jimbo said:
Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...
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Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.
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Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
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NEED SUGGESTIONS FOR NEW FTA BOX

IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
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techristian said:
IS Amiko MIRA 3 any good ???
Can you recommend the best to cover all bases. NO BEEPS on certain channels 101w (NEWSMAX ,NEWS NATION), a clock that keeps working STEADY for timed recording ,solid unit with good lifespan. My Amiko died AND my Linkbox has NO Favorites Button and BEEPS on many channels. Picking up 105 west with a NEW SHED IN THE Way with 6 foot Cband ..95 percent quality ...unbelievable.
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Have you tried a new power brick on your Amiko? It's slim pickings out there anymore. The FTA market in the US has pretty much been abandoned.

This would likely be your best bet, and Rick is a good seller. I've never had any issues with him:

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Updates on Artemis III?

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nrzwDeQ-WV0


Direct YouTube Link - Updates on Artemis III?
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
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Star Trek: Starfleet Academy - Paramount+

Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
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klang said:
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
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Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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klang said:
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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MikeD-C05 said:
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
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Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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harshness said:
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
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MikeD-C05 said:
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
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Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
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Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
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I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
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I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.
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MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes.
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That is your right.

I couldn't buy hiding behind the dirty-feet argument.
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Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
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Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
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