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After the failures with the TBS6910SE and the TBS6903X, I tried a USB connected tuner, specifically the TBS5580. Same dish, same LNB, connected to the same Tvheadend backend, but this time it appears to be working with no signs of the "interference" that plagued the TBX6903X. Unlike the USB model it replaced (the TBS5520se), the TBS5580 comes with a 12 volt power supply and input jack. Therefore, it is not dependent on the USB connection for power (which was apparently an issue with earlier models). Anyway, Tvheadend was able to recognize it (see my first post at TBS 6903-X Professional with Tvheadend: Success! to see the settings I used).
If you already have TBS cards and you are running Tvheadend in Linux, you probably use the /etc/modprobe.d/dvb.conf file to specify tuner order so your tuners don't appear in random places on each reboot. To make the 5580 appear as the last tuner, you can put a line in that file such as "options dvb_usb_tbs5580 adapter_nr=tunernumber" where "tunernumber" is a number that is one number higher than the tuners you already have.
One complaint I have heard for years about the USB connected tuners is that they get hot in operation, and this sometimes leads to premature failure. This unit was no exception, after a few minutes of use it was very warm to the touch. So I now have it basically sitting on top of a PC case fan using a plastic bracket that came out of something, don't ask because it is kind of a weird contraption made with available parts and zip ties, but the point is that with the pc fan underneath it blowing cool air up onto the case it stays cool to the touch. If you have a 3D printer and the design skills you could probably design a much more suitable plastic bracket to hold the device and fan, but recycling an existing plastic bracket isn't a bad thing either. The fan is connected to a "wall wart" 12 volt DC power supply that I happened to have lying around (sometimes there are benefits to being a bit of a pack rat). This may not be strictly necessary but on the other hand it can't hurt, and I feel better knowing the electronics in this thing aren't cooking themselves to a premature death.
I have only used this tuner for about an hour and a half of actual recording, but in that time I saw no errors. None. Zero. In that amount of time the TBS6903X would have thrown thousands of errors. The downside of the 5580 is that for those of us in North America there is only one useable tuner (in parts of the word that use DVB-T or ISDB-T as the terrestial TV standard then you also get a tuner for that and can even use a CI card because there is a slot for that, but I am not sure how many places in the world have both DVB-S2X satellite signals and one of those two formats for local TV). Obviously I could not test the other tuner because there is nothing to receive here. At some point I hope TBS can support support ATSC3 but that is a whole other big can of worms.
I wish this forum allowed you to make edits to posts at a later date rather than having to create entirely new posts, because I am a little reluctantant to say this tuner is an unequivocal success after being burned by the TBS6903X (and it really seems strange that the more expensive card failed when this one appears to succeed). However, early tests appear very encouraging. If you don't see any followup posts to this one, that means that I haven't run into any problems with the TBS5580. And I really hope I don't have to make any followup posts to this one!
If you already have TBS cards and you are running Tvheadend in Linux, you probably use the /etc/modprobe.d/dvb.conf file to specify tuner order so your tuners don't appear in random places on each reboot. To make the 5580 appear as the last tuner, you can put a line in that file such as "options dvb_usb_tbs5580 adapter_nr=tunernumber" where "tunernumber" is a number that is one number higher than the tuners you already have.
One complaint I have heard for years about the USB connected tuners is that they get hot in operation, and this sometimes leads to premature failure. This unit was no exception, after a few minutes of use it was very warm to the touch. So I now have it basically sitting on top of a PC case fan using a plastic bracket that came out of something, don't ask because it is kind of a weird contraption made with available parts and zip ties, but the point is that with the pc fan underneath it blowing cool air up onto the case it stays cool to the touch. If you have a 3D printer and the design skills you could probably design a much more suitable plastic bracket to hold the device and fan, but recycling an existing plastic bracket isn't a bad thing either. The fan is connected to a "wall wart" 12 volt DC power supply that I happened to have lying around (sometimes there are benefits to being a bit of a pack rat). This may not be strictly necessary but on the other hand it can't hurt, and I feel better knowing the electronics in this thing aren't cooking themselves to a premature death.
I have only used this tuner for about an hour and a half of actual recording, but in that time I saw no errors. None. Zero. In that amount of time the TBS6903X would have thrown thousands of errors. The downside of the 5580 is that for those of us in North America there is only one useable tuner (in parts of the word that use DVB-T or ISDB-T as the terrestial TV standard then you also get a tuner for that and can even use a CI card because there is a slot for that, but I am not sure how many places in the world have both DVB-S2X satellite signals and one of those two formats for local TV). Obviously I could not test the other tuner because there is nothing to receive here. At some point I hope TBS can support support ATSC3 but that is a whole other big can of worms.
I wish this forum allowed you to make edits to posts at a later date rather than having to create entirely new posts, because I am a little reluctantant to say this tuner is an unequivocal success after being burned by the TBS6903X (and it really seems strange that the more expensive card failed when this one appears to succeed). However, early tests appear very encouraging. If you don't see any followup posts to this one, that means that I haven't run into any problems with the TBS5580. And I really hope I don't have to make any followup posts to this one!
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You can change your post for a limited time. However after that time goes by then they can no longer be edited.
The reason for that is for two reasons...
1) We had some members who would post bad information acting like they were experts and then after when they figured out what they posted was wrong they would come back and edit their posts making it seem like they were right all along.
2) SatelliteGuys is a time machine with 20+ years of history. Some folks in the past decided they didn't want their posts here anymore and would go in and delete all their text, making the timeline of history hard to follow. As our user agreement says all posts become property of SatelliteGuys and this is to keep the history in tact. Users have asked us in the past to remove their posts, to which we have declined. However we have instead offered to change their username on their posts so they are not longer attributed to "them" and again this is to keep the order of history alive.
Lets hope that Tuner serves you well.
Thanks for reporting on it.
The reason for that is for two reasons...
1) We had some members who would post bad information acting like they were experts and then after when they figured out what they posted was wrong they would come back and edit their posts making it seem like they were right all along.
2) SatelliteGuys is a time machine with 20+ years of history. Some folks in the past decided they didn't want their posts here anymore and would go in and delete all their text, making the timeline of history hard to follow. As our user agreement says all posts become property of SatelliteGuys and this is to keep the history in tact. Users have asked us in the past to remove their posts, to which we have declined. However we have instead offered to change their username on their posts so they are not longer attributed to "them" and again this is to keep the order of history alive.
Lets hope that Tuner serves you well.
Thanks for reporting on it.
Okay, Scott, I understand your reasoning, however I will say this is not the norm - most other forums let you go back an edit posts even after quite some time. As for removing bad information in posts, I would attribute that to a sincere desire to remove bad information, not to make the member seem like an expert. I don't think of myself as an expert at all, but if I have inadvertently put out bad information (or just made a dumb spelling error) I would like to be able to come back and fix it. My previous thread about the TBS6903X was a perfect example - at first it appeared that card would be a solution until I actually figured out how bad it was at receiving a DVB-S2X signal. But I couldn't alter my original post, and I couldn't even fix the topic title to remove the word "Success" which is clearly misleading because in the end it was not a success at all.You can change your post for a limited time. However after that time goes by then they can no longer be edited.
The reason for that is for two reasons...
1) We had some members who would post bad information acting like they were experts and then after when they figured out what they posted was wrong they would come back and edit their posts making it seem like they were right all along.
2) SatelliteGuys is a time machine with 20+ years of history. Some folks in the past decided they didn't want their posts here anymore and would go in and delete all their text, making the timeline of history hard to follow. As our user agreement says all posts become property of SatelliteGuys and this is to keep the history in tact. Users have asked us in the past to remove their posts, to which we have declined. However we have instead offered to change their username on their posts so they are not longer attributed to "them" and again this is to keep the order of history alive.
Lets hope that Tuner serves you well.
I don't post that often anyway, but I have to say that the inability to edit posts makes me more reluctant to post. The older I get the more I have "brain farts" and make dumb spelling mistakes, or refer to something by the wrong model number or something of that nature, and it would be great to have at least a few days to catch and fix those things. As the saying goes, "don't attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity", or in this case, the lessened ability of aging minds to get things completely right the first time.
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Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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Mark Harmon is coming back as Gibbs in Origins, for the full season. Just saw, Dinozzo too, on NCIS . That will be an interesting writing project.
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Mark Harmon Returning To 'NCIS: Origins' As Gibbs For Season 3
Mark Harmon is returning to NCIS: Origins for a season-long arc.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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College Football Playoff nears agreement on 24-team expansion that could end title games
The College Football Playoff field is about to get much more crowded as the conferences near a deal to double the size of the field to 24 teams starting next year
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Can't help but wonder if a worker overlooked checking the harness. I rarely ride a roller coaster anymore but when I do I check the harness myself pretty aggressively.
Can't imagine what the son is going through.
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Can't imagine what the son is going through.
Dad levitated and bled then fell to his death from coaster
Eyewitnesses have shared fresh details of the horrific accident that happened at Six Flags Over Georgia on Monday afternoon.
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Could B&M’s Patent on the “Clamshell” Ride Restraint Design Offer Clues as to What Happened on Goliath at Six Flags Over Georgia?
Incredibly sad news out of Six Flags Over Georgia as it’s being reported one man was killed after being ejected from Goliath, the B&M hyper coaster. Many news outlets have posted pictures of pe…
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Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.Could B&M’s Patent on the “Clamshell” Ride Restraint Design Offer Clues as to What Happened on Goliath at Six Flags Over Georgia?
Incredibly sad news out of Six Flags Over Georgia as it’s being reported one man was killed after being ejected from Goliath, the B&M hyper coaster. Many news outlets have posted pictures of pe…
It makes sense, however, I would want more types of restraints, so if one doesn't work, the other does ... the restraints coming over the shoulder I would have expected ... with a Seat belt as last resort.
Fwiw, I inquired with what they use on Coasters at Cedar Point, various Coasters, different restraints according to what the car and track requires ...
NONE of the Coasters at CP use THAT particular system
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.
Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place.
Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN
Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN
Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.
I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.
Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.
Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Tony as the director.
Would you rather have LaRoche ???Tony as the director.
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I just received 6 receiver 2 port mini Multiswitch and it work great, no external power need it, and you can connect 6 receiver instead of 4 on most Mini Multiswitches... If anyone is interested in where they can get one PM me....
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This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.
As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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I have been optimizing the site the past few days... and got us here now. We are rocking now!
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