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Bruce
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It is that time of the month, when Live TV Providers start reporting their quarterly reports.

First up Verizon Fios, with a loss of 74,000 subscribers, but had great gains with their 5G Service.

Fios Video service is down to 2.7M subscribers

Next up, both Comcast and Charter report on Halloween.

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Bruce
Comcast lost 365,000 TV customers.

Also lost 87,000 Broadband subscribers, assume to 5G services.

3rd Quarter is always less then the other 3, expect Dish and DirecTV's losses to be higher in the 4th, due to the price increases that hit in October.

DirecTV's losses might be high in the 3rd, due to the Disney dispute, the rumors are they lost a million, which caused them to take the deal Disney offered.

This quarter should not be so bad for most providers.

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Comcast lost 365,000 TV customers.

Also lost 87,000 Broadband subscribers, assume to 5G services.

3rd Quarter is always less then the other 3, expect Dish and DirecTV's losses to be higher in the 4th, due to the price increases that hit in October.

DirecTV's losses might be high in the 3rd, due to the Disney dispute, the rumors are they lost a million, which caused them to take the deal Disney offered.

This quarter should not be so bad for most providers.


And it looks like Comcast wants to get rid of the Cable Channels (USA, SyFy, etc), probably before it affects the value of the company, as it did with Warner to the amount of $10 Billion to the negative.

Comcast President Mike Cavanagh delivered an eye-opening update to investors on this morning's third-quarter earnings call, saying the company is exploring creating a new stand-alone entity to house its cable networks.

"Like many of our peers in media, we're experiencing the effects of the transition of our video businesses and have been studying the best path forward for these assets," Cavanagh said. "To that end, we are now exploring whether creating a new, well-capitalized company owned by our shareholders and comprised of our strong portfolio of cable networks would position them to take advantage of opportunities in the media landscape and create value for our shareholders. We are not ready to talk about any specifics yet, but we'll be back to you as and when we reach firm conclusions."
The news comes in the wake of Warner Bros. Discovery and Paramount Global taking a collective $15 billion in write downs on the value of their cable assets and ongoing declines in linear viewing and advertising. Cord-cutting is shrinking the pay-TV bundle by millions of subscribers each year and it is difficult to know where the floor will ultimately be.


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And it looks like Comcast wants to get rid of the Cable Channels (USA, SyFy, etc), probably before it affects the value of the company, as it did with Warner to the amount of $10 Billion to the negative.
That was fast, expecting early next year, hate being out of the loop-

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ncted
That was fast, expecting early next year, hate being out of the loop-

So they are going to spin those channels off, let them go bankrupt, and then buy them back at a reduced rate? The lawyers must not be charging them enough.
Bruce
So they are going to spin those channels off, let them go bankrupt, and then buy them back at a reduced rate? The lawyers must not be charging them enough.
It just seems like they want them off the Comcast books, before they have to devalue them as Warner ( $10 Billion devalued ) and Paramount ($5 Billion) has done.

Best time to do that is now, when they still have perceived value.

I own shares in Comcast, should, very soon, receive more information.
lakebum431
It just seems like they want them off the Comcast books, before they have to devalue them as Warner ( $10 Billion devalued ) and Paramount ($5 Billion) has done.

Best time to do that is now, when they still have perceived value.

I own shares in Comcast, should, very soon, receive more information.
Not the same situation at all because that isn't how accounting works. The write-downs you reference were related to the goodwill that was on the books for Warners/Paramount as a result of the acquisitions they went through. These networks have a very long history under current ownership so there is little to no goodwill to write-down (USA has been part of NBCU since 2004, Syfy since 1997, Oxygen 2007, E! 1997 while MS NBC, CNBC and Golf all internally developed so zero goodwill). This is no "write-down" coming for these channels that they are trying to avoid.
Bruce
(USA has been part of NBCU since 2004, Syfy since 1997, Oxygen 2007, E! 1997 while MS NBC, CNBC and Golf all internally developed so zero goodwill
And all of them are not worth what they used to be, since 2017, have 32 Million less subscribers, that means those per sub fees went bye bye, advertising revenue is rumored to be half what it used to be.

So yes, they should be devalued as Warner/Paramount has already done.
S
Not the same situation at all because that isn't how accounting works. The write-downs you reference were related to the goodwill that was on the books for Warners/Paramount as a result of the acquisitions they went through. These networks have a very long history under current ownership so there is little to no goodwill to write-down (USA has been part of NBCU since 2004, Syfy since 1997, Oxygen 2007, E! 1997 while MS NBC, CNBC and Golf all internally developed so zero goodwill). This is no "write-down" coming for these channels that they are trying to avoid.
While this is true, I think this is precisely why they did this. Since they can't write-down the goodwill, they would have to risk devaluing the book value of the channels themselves. Better to move them to a new entity at full book value and then run the risk of them being worth less later. I appreciate good accounting shenanigans as much as the next guy, but we all know that none of these assets are worth what they used to be. It's getting close to the point where the only true value left is the brand name itself.
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And all of them are not worth what they used to be, since 2017, have 32 Million less subscribers, that means those per sub fees went bye bye, advertising revenue is rumored to be half what it used to be.

So yes, they should be devalued as Warner/Paramount has already done.
While this is true, I think this is precisely why they did this. Since they can't write-down the goodwill, they would have to risk devaluing the book value of the channels themselves. Better to move them to a new entity at full book value and then run the risk of them being worth less later. I appreciate good accounting shenanigans as much as the next guy, but we all know that none of these assets are worth what they used to be. It's getting close to the point where the only true value left is the brand name itself.

It doesn't matter that they are worth less. You're not understanding the accounting rules. The goodwill associated with the networks was written down for Warners and Paramount. You don't write them up as they become more valuable. These are point in time assessments that are done for valuation at the time of acquisition (or if they are internally built, there is zero value on the books). Because the ones that NBCU acquired happened so long ago, there is very little (or zero) goodwill on the books (and no tradename value left) for those networks. In the case of Warners, they ascribed goodwill to those assets back in 2022. Because of the large purchase price there was a substantial amount of goodwill put on the books at that time. As the value of the networks declined since then the associated goodwill was written down. This assessment is required to happen every quarter. There isn't anything on the books to write down.
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Bruce
The cable TV industry continues to hemorrhage subscribers as cord cutting accelerates and streaming services gain dominance. In 2023, traditional pay TV providers in the U.S. lost a staggering 5.4 million subscribers, marking a significant increase from the 4.9 million who cut the cord in 2022. This exodus shows no signs of slowing down, with an estimated 5.7 million subscribers already having abandoned cable TV in the first three quarters of 2024.

I keep expecting it to slow down, since Cable/Satellite TV are now under 50 Million Subscribers, but it just gets worse for them.

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Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
osu1991
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
This will be a SAD DAY when this passes ....

They complained the last year that we had a bunch of Blow Outs in the Playoffs ... heres an idea, lets Double the amount of teams and hope for Closer games ... ya right.

This never should have went past 8 teams, 10 at the most.

Now, I have heard that play in games are being talked about, such as #13 plays #24 and so forth, to cut the field down (why cut it down, just don't expand it.)
I'm not sure exactly how thats going to work out or if it was just someone talking.

They were also talking about starting the Season earlier ...

I really don't like the National Championship game being the end of January ... if the Semi Finals are over New Years, thats fine with the Championship game the next week.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Rock And Roll All Nite - Kiss
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Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution - AC/DC
Bobby
Kiss - The Art Of Noise
long_time_Dish
Beautiful Noise - Neil Diamond
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White Noise - Jessie Baylin
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Can't help but wonder if a worker overlooked checking the harness. I rarely ride a roller coaster anymore but when I do I check the harness myself pretty aggressively.
Can't imagine what the son is going through.

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Jimbo
dishstaller
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
Jimbo
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
It makes sense, however, I would want more types of restraints, so if one doesn't work, the other does ... the restraints coming over the shoulder I would have expected ... with a Seat belt as last resort.

Fwiw, I inquired with what they use on Coasters at Cedar Point, various Coasters, different restraints according to what the car and track requires ...

NONE of the Coasters at CP use THAT particular system :)
I'm glad to see ...
dishstaller
with a Seat belt as last resort.
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
Jimbo
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
Well, the over the shoulder support is better, but would require reconfiguring the cars.
Jimbo
Heres an article from the Akron Beacon ... seeing Six Flags has bought Cedar Point and Kings Island, they are included ...
I said earlier that Cedar Point doesn't use this type of seat restraint ... well, it does use it, But the difference is, the ones up here ALSO have the Over the shoulder restraint as well ... like I was suggesting that they should have used with the Goliath.

One of the new(er) one at Cedar point the Gate Keeper, uses the Clam shell .. I have rode it many times and have Mostly felt secure, that ride will stop you part way on the ride and you just hang, till the ride is ready to continue ... I typically ride the Front Car ... when its getting ready, you ARE hanging, in the car, looking down .... it would require 2 separate restraint systems to unlock at the same time to possibly get out of it.

meStevo
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
zippyfrog
That image is so true - especially after that Giants/Commanders game yesterday.
dfergie
Some tight games that went to the wire...
Y
Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Foxbat
Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…
dishstaller
Well, I helped him set up a gmail acct....I actually wanted to see what the new process is for setting up a gmail acct since it had been years since I set mine up. Anyway, I showed him how to forward the emails he wanted to keep over.
navychop
If Earth had shorter days,

Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

🙄
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Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

🙄
Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…😉
K
Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

I still have one of those although I've been trying to wean myself off it.
JSheridan
Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.
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dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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"MysteryMan"
Best episode ever.
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Jimbo
Best episode ever.
I actually think the very first episode was One of the Best ...
S1 E1 Yankee White
Where it all started in what was it, 2003 ?

edit:
Sorry, I got the shows mixed up, were talking Origins ...
I've liked Most of them once we've gotten past the 1st 3-4, getting to know who was who took a bit in the beginning.
It's a bit harder seeing we already Know the person, then go back and see how they became that person.
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KAB
Mark Harmon is coming back as Gibbs in Origins, for the full season. Just saw, Dinozzo too, on NCIS . That will be an interesting writing project.
dfergie
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
R
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
Will the OG Gibbs be on NCIS or will Tony be on NCIS Origins?
TheRatPatrol
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
dfergie
I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
H
Last reply · posted in FTA Receiver / Equipment Support
I just received 6 receiver 2 port mini Multiswitch and it work great, no external power need it, and you can connect 6 receiver instead of 4 on most Mini Multiswitches... If anyone is interested in where they can get one PM me....
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Titanium
Have you tested using external power? Over the years, have found unpowered polarity switching to be unreliable. Especially problematic when used with DiSEqC motors or switch stacking.
H
No I have not. I just got it the other day and it is connected to six receivers working just fine. What I do is non power mini multi-switches work best with LNBF's and with LNB's
H
It also has a IPS and a OPS switch on the side of it with a power led light showing when is on. It seems to be very nice build switch
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Wednesday 10-14, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
Bobby
NASCAR, Freeway Insurance 500, Sunday 10-18, 12PM PDT, Channel 148-04.
Bobby
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Yeah. It's probably something going on with the MacBook as my iPhone has been pretty snappy.
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I have been optimizing the site the past few days... and got us here now. :) We are rocking now!

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Foxbat
Yeah. It's probably something going on with the MacBook as my iPhone has been pretty snappy.
I rebooted my MacBook Air and it's zipping right along. Sorry, but it was taking over 20 seconds to load pages, with the pulsing blue bars so it was munching on something.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱