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622 Install Nightmares!!

Let me say that I have never seen such incompetance from Dish in the 8 years that I have been a customer. I am not sure what to do next.

First, I received my 622 on Feb 15th. I called Tech Support that night and they told me that I could hook up my 622 and run it on TV1 until my install on the 21st. Other than turning off my 811 which I had to get them to turn back on on Saturday everything went okay.

Then the install happend. First, Dish's installer showed up at my house at 4:20PM on the 21st without calling me at work. I left both my work number and cell phone # for them to call me so that I could meet them at the house. My mother-in law was there and called me when they showed up. I got there at 4:45 and the installer was standing around confused. I asked what was up and he told me that he did not know what to do?

Now the nightmare starts. On his work order he was supposed to disconnect my 301 and 311 and hook up the 622. He said that he had not brought out a 61.5 antenna or a Dish1000? I told him that first, I already have a 61.5 dish and second, according to the Tech ( I leased the 622 thru Tech Support) that I was not taking any receivers off line and that he was supposed to be installing a DP44 switch. He then told me that he not only did not have a DP44 switch but that he did not have a seperator!! He called his office and was told that they did not have a DP44 switch and did not know when they could get one! He did not know what to do and then I decided to call Dish -- it starts to get worse!!!

I call Tech Support -- tell them what is going on and they check my install and say that yes I should be getting a DP44 switch with the 622 install but that I have to talk to Customer Service in order to get the switch sent either to me or to the installer. When I go to the CSR I am put on hold for about 15 minutes in which they then come back and say that I must talk to Tech Support. I tell them that I would like to talk to a supervisor because Tech Support sent me to them and they HANG UP ON ME!!!

The installer decides to call Dish on His Support Line and they start discussing several differant ways to get this thing hooked up. The fun starts now. My dishes (500 and 61.5) are on top of a hill aproximately 80 feet from my house. It took 3 days to dig a trench when I first moved in in order to bury cable to the house. I originally put 4 cables in but one of them has since died. The installer does not want to dig a trench and drill holes in my brick house because the Tech he is talking to cannot gaurantee him that his dual DP34 switches is gonna work. He wants he to 'TRY IT OUT AND SEE IF IT WORKS'!! He says that he is not gonna do all that to 'see if it works' and that he needs a DP44 switch!

Now I am fumming and I call Dish back and after about 17 minutes on hold from a CSR the CSR comes back and says to me that yes I should be getting a DP44 switch but that he cannot contact the install office so he asks that I call back in about two hours! I say okay and I bid the installer goodbye -- he is very oppologetic and oviously confused. That makes two of us!!

I call back at 8:30 and talk to another CSR and after about 25 minutes on the phone the CSR comes back on and says that she cannot contact their install center nor their Tech Support and that I should call back in a few hours!! O'YEAH , now I am really getting some service!!

I call back at 11:15PM and am on the phone until after Midnight. Same response -- call back in the morning. I am tired -- Dish has beat me down. I will call from work.

I call from work the next morning at 7:30AM and talk to a CSR who has me on hold for about 10 minutes then tells me that she thinks that the local installer is not open yet and to call back after 8:30AM. I wait until 8:15AM and call again and this time I am on the phone for 15 minutes when the CSR comes back on and tells me that she cannot get the local installer to answer the phone. She says that she has to get verification of my botched install in order to move forward. PLEASE -- SOMEONE HELP ME!!!

I get smart (actually I am pretty pissed by now) and I call the installer's office. Yep, they are in and when I give them the information I am told that their Area Supervisor will call my back that afternoon. We are talking about the 22nd here. I give her my cell phone # and ask that he call me on that number and she says okay.

Now I call Dish back and go thru Tech Support. I tell them everything that has gone down including the fact that the local installer is in and answering the phone. The Tech tries to call than transfers me to a Advance Tech. We go back thru the story and the Tech appologizes and tries to call the local installer one more time. I am on hold for 45 minutes!! while the Advance Tech tries to resolve this and finally comes up with a new install of April 4th so that I can get the DP44 switch. Almost 2 months!!! I then protest, I state that I already have the 622 and am using it on TV1. That the install on the 21st was for a DP44 and that everyone that I have talked to verified this even to the installer on site. I also say that waiting almost 2 months is rediculous as the installer has already told me that if Dish will send the DP44 switch to either me or the installer that they will come out THAT DAY an do the install!! I want to know what the heck is going on?

I am put on hold again while the Advance Tech has a conversation with his supervisor. He comes back on and says that his supervisor agrees and that they want the Area Supervisor to talk to me and that he will contact me at home. I try to give them my work # and cell phone but they cannot add info on the orginal work order. I settle for my mother-in-law redirecting the call. I then ask for a pass on the DVR fee untill they get the 622 installed correctly and he agrees and passes me on to a CSR who proceeds to give me two months free HD. A savings of $38. All I have to do now is wait for the call from the Area Supervisor and get this straighten out. The time is now 10:22AM!!

Hey, guess what? NO CALL. Not from anyone. I have no idea what to do now. I am at my witts end. ANY SUGGESTIONS?
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dishguy15022
we can't get dpp44 switches that much any more. Too many installers were putting them in when they weren't needed. we were told that we have to use 34 switches. I always try to carry a little bit of everything on my van even if I don't need the receivers I carry extras.

The turnover rate for a CSRs is high.
papalittle
"we can't get dpp44 switches that much any more. Too many installers were putting them in when they weren't needed. we were told that we have to use 34 switches. I always try to carry a little bit of everything on my van even if I don't need the receivers I carry extras."


I see why there are shortages of DDP44's, I have gone on serveral service calls in my area and I am finding DPP44's installed on superdishes with only 110/119/105. why would you waste a DPP44 on a install that a DP34 will work especially when there is such a shortage on the DPP44? This was a Dish install and not a local installer.
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My installer showed up and I knew it was going to be interesting.

Some of the things he told me:

* You'll have to run the antenna cable straight to the TV, the 622 doesn't have an OTA tuner.

I convinced him otherwise.

* The OTA channels won't show up in the guide.

Strike two.

* Tried to explain in great detail why he needed to have a diplexer connected to the Sat2 input and the TV 2 output.

:confused: I had to show him how to hook it up. Strike three.

* Had no clue how to get the signal from my living room and the 622 to the TV in my bedroom.

I had to drop the cable down the wall and hook it up myself while he watched.


Some direct quotes from me during the install:

"That makes absolutely no sense."

"Explain to me again how a diplexer works with an output and an input going into the diplexers inputs?"

"Yes, it will work if you do it that way. Trust me."

It was almost comical. I feel badly for his next 622 installee. Hopefully he learned something from mine.
riffjim4069
ISFCasey said:
Some direct quotes from me during the install:

"That makes absolutely no sense."

"Explain to me again how a diplexer works with an output and an input going into the diplexers inputs?"

"Yes, it will work if you do it that way. Trust me."
I didn't know whether to laugh out loud or sigh in despair. The "free install" mentality has certainly contributed to the dumbing down of the professional installers. You get what you pay for (D* and E* should be ashamed of themselves).
I
riffjim4069 said:
I didn't know whether to laugh out loud or sigh in despair.
That pretty much sums it up. :rolleyes:
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I have a DX100 American Electrola Radio, AM FM SW. It is a receiver only, which quit working many years ago. Several years ago the seller had stated that capacitors would need replaced because they go bad.

In this particular xxx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zUbXgNT8Oo they mentioned the backup battery being the problem.

Several years back when asking about having the capacitors replaced one former repairman said send it back to the factory, well there is not any. Another response several years ago from a person who repaired circuit boards for industry said they could repair it if they had a schematic, again I do not have.

This radio was built in Pittsburgh, PA out of as many American parts as they could find. Your thoughts on getting the radio to work?
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I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.
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I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.

Deheza,

Thanks for your information and offer. My Radio is actually a DXC 100 as well, was a typo in the title. Am puzzled by yours not having the battery, since they only made two runs. While the schematics would be great, I believe by the amount of views it would be better to post all the information here.

I see where numerous people have posted pdf files, just not sure how they do it.

Sorry about the long response time, just was not sure how to handle it.

Thanks,

Respectively,

Gray Hair
. Raine
If you change that diode, make sure you know what type it is, a regular rectifier, zener, whatever, don't just throw any old diode in. Try to read the number on it and look it up. Do you have a multimeter? A lot of the things in there can be easily checked with a meter.

Trying to run it off a clean 12 V source like a battery would be a good idea, like someone else suggested. In a couple of your pictures there's a 9v regulator [7809CT], and I think I saw a 5 V regulator [7805]. The 5v probably supplies the display and the 9v the radio circuitry. If you have a meter that would be a first place to check, check the three pins on each for a 12v input, a gnd, a 5v output on the 5v and a 9v output on the 9v. Bad solder connections is another good possibility.

That radio looks to be in nice shape inside. It doesn't look like anyone's worked it over, looks nice.

The back-up battery is probably just for a memory function, when you replace it make sure you use the same type, cadmium, lithium-ion, whatever it is, it should say on it what type it is and the voltage, or have a part# that can be looked up.
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I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA
Revenerd
Another necropost here. I picked one of these up today. Does anyone out there have this manual (I'd take schematics too). I too found azenithnut's post with the missing pages 16 and 17.
(((Garyd)))
I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA
Can you send the serial-number label and photos of the tuner board, that should help distinguish its circuit revision; collector records say serials marked OB were the second production run. Use a heat gun or hair dryer to find bad caps if it works for A FEW SECONDS ITS A BAD CAP, THAN ONLY HEAT HALF OF THE RADIO
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After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Almighty1
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
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jsmit86
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.
Almighty1
I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.
Interesting, is QE "Beta" or Test version different than the H708 you had mentioned that they rolled you back to or is that a newer version after that?
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Ronnie-
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
Jimbo
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
Ronnie-
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
Jimbo
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
Of course ... but they Could.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
Ronnie-
Of course ... but they Could.
Yes. I even said so. But for reasons I gave, they won't. Wouldn't make sense for them too and they would lose money. A lot of these people that watch one of these games, watch more than one.

They want those eyeballs on as many games as possible. It just makes financial sense.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
It was early. Sure.
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Tuna salad sandwich on toasted honey whole wheat bread with a handful of kettle chips. Water.
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Breakfast for lunch. Crispy corned beef hash, home fries, two over easy eggs and sourdough toast.

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Grabbed a burrito on the run. Beef, pinto beans, green chile and cheese. Stewart's cream soda.

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Beef, bean green chile, cheese homemade burritos here... Water
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Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


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Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv
jayn_j
My son is rg colorblind, but we found there are degrees. If something is vivid red or green, he can see a hint of color. I bought him a pair of the glasses when they first came out. He said they did improve things slightly, but not to the extent they are being touted. I think they are sitting in a drawer somewhere.
dishstaller
My son is rg colorblind, but we found there are degrees. If something is vivid red or green, he can see a hint of color. I bought him a pair of the glasses when they first came out. He said they did improve things slightly, but not to the extent they are being touted. I think they are sitting in a drawer somewhere.
Are the glasses one size fits all or do they make different models for different degrees of colorblindness.
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Dr Pol did not like or use his
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Are the glasses one size fits all or do they make different models for different degrees of colorblindness.
It looked like there were at least three iterations to try to match up to the given individual deficit, and a test to take to determine which would best help. But at best they seem a marginal measure and not practical.
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