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SpenceJT

Last reply Mar 28, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

622 Installed, but oh what an idiot!

Installer arrived as scheduled to install a Dish 500 and my leased 622.

I was replacing my 921. His reaction at seeing it should have been my first clue that he was "clue-less". The installer said that he had never seen a receiver that large (921), which led me to believe he's been installing for less than a year.

He went outside to mount and peak the Dish 500 (I've got a SuperDish) while my wife and I watched LOST on the 921 before disconnecting it.

When the installer came back in, he watched as I disconnected the 921. After I had set it aside I noticed him looking at the DP Seperator on the 921. I mentioned that the new ones are a bit different (larger). He said he'd never seen a splitter hooked up and didn't know how I had the receiver working. I informed him that it was a DP Seperator not a splitter to which he told me that I didn't need one with the 921 and that it would work with a single feed.

Later when hooking up the 622, he stated that I needed two satellite feeds and I remind him about the seperator, which I still don't think he grasped the purpose of. He told me I was doing it wrong and I told him that I'd hooked up my 921 and have done many a aim & peak of antennas on my own. He said I needed two feeds, to which I said "no, don't argue with me, I know what I'm doing".

I hooked it up and it worked. In speaking to him I mentioned that I was backfeeding tuner 2 into the house so my wife could watch the DVR and he asked if it was a DVR model.

He was then surprised to see HD channels in the lineup after we had activated it.

He left with an education on Dish's new product along with how to install it and I'm home enjoying my new 622.

All I can say (in my limited time with it) is that I am blown away by how far advanced it is from the 921. It's faster, the picture appears sharper and it has so many more features!

Can't wait to put it through it's paces. Well, can't play any more. My wife is home and I've got to get back to finishing the basement!

Spence

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gdarwin

Mar 25, 2006

With what I have learned here - I end up telling nearly every installer what needs to be done.... The last installer had a 625. He had never heard of a 622... Before he left I put it on RAVE... He stood there 10 minutes watching and listening to the surround sound..

Bob Haller

Mar 26, 2006

This is why I dont want people messing about here. I usually know WAY more than they do.

In Es defense managing a nationwide service force in a ever changing landscape of models and features must be tough....

SpenceJT

Mar 27, 2006

Bob Haller said:
This is why I dont want people messing about here. I usually know WAY more than they do.

Well, "Bob" thank god you chimed in to point out that you usually know WAY more than they do.

This is the third time I've ever had to deal with an installer and the first time that I've ever taken issue with the installer's level of training or expertise. Far be it for me to ever presume that I know way more than anyone, but this kid was scary at how confident he sounded when spouting off facts that were completely and utterly wrong. I advised him to read up on the latest hardware and get his facts straight before he ends up insulting the intelligence of his customers or worse yet, miss-informing the un-informed.

Bob Haller said:
managing a nationwide service force in a ever changing landscape of models and features must be tough....

This kid didn't even bother to ground the new 129 dish he had installed. Not only did he skip this basic of installation. He had no idea that a dual tuner receiver could be run from a DP +44 switch with a single cable and a DP+ Signal Separator. Now I could understand his ignorance if he had hundreds of different models to learn about, but come on! Dual tuners and DP+44 switches go back to the 921 which is what... two years old now? Given that, how many different configurations are there for basic installations of either Dish or Direct TV STBs? I count three;

Single cable
Double cable
Single cable with DP+44 switch signal separator (assuming Direct has their own version of this).

My point is, connecting up a satellite box isn't rocket science. Hell, this guy only had to run a single cable from the new antenna to a grounding block, then on to the switch and he couldn't get that right. His bravado and overconfidence in spewing disinformation was astounding!

The other two installers were up on the latest technology and had no problems at all completing the installations. This guy should be sent back for training and should not be out in the field.

dfergie

Mar 27, 2006

Bob Haller said:
This is why I dont want people messing about here. I usually know WAY more than they do.

Main reason I bought and installed my 622, Burglery over 20 years ago and got cleaned out, I do not let people I do not know see my stuff...(Also I wanted to keep my 921 and 811...)

Bob Haller

Mar 28, 2006

I am 49, and since I was a little kid I watched our family get ripped off by service folks, or ones who did a rotten job.

I have my own business, and try to be 100% upfront and never do anything even questionable. plus I try to know what I am doing...

I dont want to be like a lifetime of others.!!!!!!!

Before I got sat a installer wanted to mount my dish to my chimney. totally unnecessary...

hard to service, chimney already in bad shape.

my nice low mount much better

Gray Hair

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 6 minutes ago · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Repair DX100 American Electrola Radio, AM FM SW?

I have a DX100 American Electrola Radio, AM FM SW. It is a receiver only, which quit working many years ago. Several years ago the seller had stated that capacitors would need replaced because they go bad.

In this particular xxx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zUbXgNT8Oo they mentioned the backup battery being the problem.

Several years back when asking about having the capacitors replaced one former repairman said send it back to the factory, well there is not any. Another response several years ago from a person who repaired circuit boards for industry said they could repair it if they had a schematic, again I do not have.

This radio was built in Pittsburgh, PA out of as many American parts as they could find. Your thoughts on getting the radio to work?

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deheza

Jul 1, 2013

I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.

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Gray Hair

Dec 27, 2013

deheza said:
I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.

Deheza,

Thanks for your information and offer. My Radio is actually a DXC 100 as well, was a typo in the title. Am puzzled by yours not having the battery, since they only made two runs. While the schematics would be great, I believe by the amount of views it would be better to post all the information here.

I see where numerous people have posted pdf files, just not sure how they do it.

Sorry about the long response time, just was not sure how to handle it.

Thanks,

Respectively,

Gray Hair

. Raine

Dec 28, 2013

If you change that diode, make sure you know what type it is, a regular rectifier, zener, whatever, don't just throw any old diode in. Try to read the number on it and look it up. Do you have a multimeter? A lot of the things in there can be easily checked with a meter.

Trying to run it off a clean 12 V source like a battery would be a good idea, like someone else suggested. In a couple of your pictures there's a 9v regulator [7809CT], and I think I saw a 5 V regulator [7805]. The 5v probably supplies the display and the 9v the radio circuitry. If you have a meter that would be a first place to check, check the three pins on each for a 12v input, a gnd, a 5v output on the 5v and a 9v output on the 9v. Bad solder connections is another good possibility.

That radio looks to be in nice shape inside. It doesn't look like anyone's worked it over, looks nice.

The back-up battery is probably just for a memory function, when you replace it make sure you use the same type, cadmium, lithium-ion, whatever it is, it should say on it what type it is and the voltage, or have a part# that can be looked up.

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OZ65

Jan 31, 2024

I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA

Revenerd

Today at 6:15 PM

Another necropost here. I picked one of these up today. Does anyone out there have this manual (I'd take schematics too). I too found azenithnut's post with the missing pages 16 and 17.

(((Garyd)))

6 minutes ago

OZ65 said:
I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA

Can you send the serial-number label and photos of the tuner board, that should help distinguish its circuit revision; collector records say serials marked OB were the second production run. Use a heat gun or hair dryer to find bad caps if it works for A FEW SECONDS ITS A BAD CAP, THAN ONLY HEAT HALF OF THE RADIO

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Last reply Today at 8:05 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Today at 11:07 AM

They Call the Wind Maria - Vaughn Monroe

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Maria Magenta - Donovan

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My Maria - Brooks & Dunn

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The Agentic Web & When AI Agents Escape Their Sandbox

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garyreno

Last reply Today at 5:12 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Updated to H715 on a Hopper 3 from H713

After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 3:03 PM

Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?

https://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/th...ftware-version-713-is-out.423921/post-5108817

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jsmit86

Today at 9:54 AM

Almighty1 said:
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?

https://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/th...ftware-version-713-is-out.423921/post-5108817

I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.

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Almighty1

Today at 5:12 PM

jsmit86 said:
I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.

Interesting, is QE "Beta" or Test version different than the H708 you had mentioned that they rolled you back to or is that a newer version after that?

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Ramy

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Last reply Today at 4:20 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Ronnie-

Today at 3:11 PM

The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.

Roll tide.

Jimbo

Today at 3:23 PM

Ronnie- said:
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.

Roll tide.

With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue

)

Ronnie-

Today at 3:28 PM

Jimbo said:
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... )

Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.

You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.

Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.

None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.

Jimbo

Today at 3:58 PM

Ronnie- said:
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.

You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.

Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.

None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.

Of course ... but they Could.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.

Ronnie-

Today at 4:20 PM

Jimbo said:
Of course ... but they Could.

Yes. I even said so. But for reasons I gave, they won't. Wouldn't make sense for them too and they would lose money. A lot of these people that watch one of these games, watch more than one.

They want those eyeballs on as many games as possible. It just makes financial sense.

Jimbo said:
Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.

It was early. Sure.

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Last reply Today at 3:41 PM · posted in What's Cooking?

What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...

Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...

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TRG

Oct 29, 2026

Tuna salad sandwich on toasted honey whole wheat bread with a handful of kettle chips. Water.

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Breakfast for lunch. Crispy corned beef hash, home fries, two over easy eggs and sourdough toast.

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Grabbed a burrito on the run. Beef, pinto beans, green chile and cheese. Stewart's cream soda.

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Beef, bean green chile, cheese homemade burritos here... Water

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Last reply Today at 1:46 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Color blind man sees full colors for first time at age 66

Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.

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telstar_1

Yesterday at 2:02 PM

Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv

jayn_j

Today at 10:45 AM

My son is rg colorblind, but we found there are degrees. If something is vivid red or green, he can see a hint of color. I bought him a pair of the glasses when they first came out. He said they did improve things slightly, but not to the extent they are being touted. I think they are sitting in a drawer somewhere.

dishstaller

Today at 12:50 PM

jayn_j said:
My son is rg colorblind, but we found there are degrees. If something is vivid red or green, he can see a hint of color. I bought him a pair of the glasses when they first came out. He said they did improve things slightly, but not to the extent they are being touted. I think they are sitting in a drawer somewhere.

Are the glasses one size fits all or do they make different models for different degrees of colorblindness.

navychop

Today at 12:56 PM

Dr Pol did not like or use his

telstar_1

Today at 1:46 PM

dishstaller said:
Are the glasses one size fits all or do they make different models for different degrees of colorblindness.

It looked like there were at least three iterations to try to match up to the given individual deficit, and a test to take to determine which would best help. But at best they seem a marginal measure and not practical.

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