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tbenning
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Last week I called DISH for the 622 lease. I am scheduled for an install on the 5th. I expected it to be delayed at least once. But, to my surprise the 622 actually arrived today. So now I would like to know if I'll need more cable runs. If I do I'll run them through the walls this weekend before the installer gets here so I don't end up with wires stapled to the outside of my house.

I currently have a legacy Dish 500 quad with 2 runs to a 721 and 1 run to a 508 in a different room. I plan to add the 622 to the same room as the 721. I'll need the Dish 1000 upgrade to get the HD channels. I do not yet have an antennae for OTA so that will not be a factor for now.

Will I be fine with the current cable runs?
Will the 622 installer just be able to reuse the 2 existing 721 cable runs with DPP separators so they can supply both the 721 and the 622?
If not, what type of setup will I likely end up with?

Thanks in advance,
Tom
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When my 622 and d1000 was installed they tried to install a DP44 switch. Since I only have one 622 receiver I told them to forget the switch and hook up both the existing lines from the d1000 to the 622. I didn't see any reason to have the extra equipment since I didn't think I would use it. My understanding is that the d1000 comes with an lnb that allows each of the two lines that come off that lnb to be split (using the proper equipment) to seperate sets. This will allow me to add two more receivers sometime in the future. That will be more than enough for me.

My installers had a hard time understanding why I felt I didn't need the DP44 switch but they finally conceded. They had a REALLY hard time understanding that I wanted a dedicated d500 left for the 129 sat and the d1000 would only handle the 110/119 sats. Once the dish's were peaked we got 90+ for 110, 100 for 119, and 75 to 85 for 129. They said it was the best they had seen on the 129 sat since they started installing d1000's.

I think I really upset them at first by telling them what to do, but in the end everyone was happy.
tbenning
Well the install happened today. Things went pretty much as expected with a few exceptions. Two techs arrived and looked at the situation. The 1st tech said easy install put in a DP44 switch and use all existing wiring. 2nd tech said "remember were not supposed to use the DP44's." 1St Tech, "as long as they are on the truck, I'm going to use them."
I was expecting a Dish1000. The Tech said I can give you one if you insist, but I highly recommend using a 2nd dish for 129 it will keep the signal strengths much better and make signal loss in storms less likely. I decided not to fight for the dish 1000 and let him proceed with the 2nd dish. Was this really better? Is the dish1000 OK in Sacramento area?
Everything went fine until they tried to get the 622 to work. It repeatedly failed the Check switch, it refused to see 110, so it refused to download newer software. My other 2 receivers passed the check switch OK, reported strong signals, but strangely refused to tune some stations. After 2 hours of them trying everything it turned out they installed a bad twin LNB onto the dish 500. Once replaced, everything works well now.
The team seemed quite professional with a few exceptions:
1) They kept telling me that I should not keep all my receivers. They said that I didn't need all three (622, 721 and 508).
2) They kept telling me that the 622 was the "biggest piece of crap that DISH has released so far"..."Nothing but trouble"..."942 was far superior". I suggested it is still new and will get more robust with time. He laughed and said, "yeah right...That's why the 921 is still a piece of crap?"
3) While Tech #1 was wrestling to get the 622 working, Tech number 2 was trying to figure out why he could not toon any HD channels on my 721. I reminded him that the 721 was not a HD receiver. He stubbornly told me "Yes it is. I know what I'm doing. This was Dish networks first HD dual tuner DVR." As I walked out of the room I told him that he was mistaken and that the 921 was the first.

All-in-all everything is working well now. They did a decent job. I've not seen any 622 bugs yet, but that'll come soon enough I'm sure...
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From what I'm reading in these forums, I think you did the right thing with 2 separate dishes. Except in a few areas it is impossible to optimize the D1000 for 3 satellites. Separate dishes takes care of the problem. I can't see any advantage to the D1000 unless you have to have only 1.

Re: the tech "badmouthing" the equipment and arguing with you, the customer - that's very unprofessional. I have another thread running on that topic...

Congratulations - I'm still holding back on a 622 for several reasons, but I hope to be there soon...!
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tbenning said:
Well the install happened today. Things went pretty much as expected with a few exceptions. Two techs arrived and looked at the situation. The 1st tech said easy install put in a DP44 switch and use all existing wiring. 2nd tech said "remember were not supposed to use the DP44's." 1St Tech, "as long as they are on the truck, I'm going to use them."
I was expecting a Dish1000. The Tech said I can give you one if you insist, but I highly recommend using a 2nd dish for 129 it will keep the signal strengths much better and make signal loss in storms less likely. I decided not to fight for the dish 1000 and let him proceed with the 2nd dish. Was this really better? Is the dish1000 OK in Sacramento area?
Everything went fine until they tried to get the 622 to work. It repeatedly failed the Check switch, it refused to see 110, so it refused to download newer software. My other 2 receivers passed the check switch OK, reported strong signals, but strangely refused to tune some stations. After 2 hours of them trying everything it turned out they installed a bad twin LNB onto the dish 500. Once replaced, everything works well now.
The team seemed quite professional with a few exceptions:
1) They kept telling me that I should not keep all my receivers. They said that I didn't need all three (622, 721 and 508).
2) They kept telling me that the 622 was the "biggest piece of crap that DISH has released so far"..."Nothing but trouble"..."942 was far superior". I suggested it is still new and will get more robust with time. He laughed and said, "yeah right...That's why the 921 is still a piece of crap?"
3) While Tech #1 was wrestling to get the 622 working, Tech number 2 was trying to figure out why he could not toon any HD channels on my 721. I reminded him that the 721 was not a HD receiver. He stubbornly told me "Yes it is. I know what I'm doing. This was Dish networks first HD dual tuner DVR." As I walked out of the room I told him that he was mistaken and that the 921 was the first.

All-in-all everything is working well now. They did a decent job. I've not seen any 622 bugs yet, but that'll come soon enough I'm sure...

SNAP ! I had mine installed today too. I have a D1000, it works almost all the time, i had a couple of drops in the bad weather recently, but i had my dish repeaked today too and picked up another 10 points on the 129 strength. Ill let you know if i still have issues.
Jeff
tbenning
So far the 622 has been problem free for me. My favorite surprise was how "fast" the 30-second skip and 10-second skip back are. Compared to the other DishDRV models these commands are very noticeably faster...they seem instantaneous.
I'm combining the 721 out and the 622 out and sending it all to the house wiring so that I am able to watch anything from anywhere in the house. I Love the fact that the 622 remote can seamlessly operate both the 622 and the 721 (in Aux mode). With this combination I've already disconnected my 508 as I'll not need it any more. I'll sell it soon and put the dollars towards a 4" PocketDISH.
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I have a DX100 American Electrola Radio, AM FM SW. It is a receiver only, which quit working many years ago. Several years ago the seller had stated that capacitors would need replaced because they go bad.

In this particular xxx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zUbXgNT8Oo they mentioned the backup battery being the problem.

Several years back when asking about having the capacitors replaced one former repairman said send it back to the factory, well there is not any. Another response several years ago from a person who repaired circuit boards for industry said they could repair it if they had a schematic, again I do not have.

This radio was built in Pittsburgh, PA out of as many American parts as they could find. Your thoughts on getting the radio to work?
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I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.
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I can e-mail you pdf copies of the the manuals and schematics. The tuning not working is probably the tuning encoder. I recently found one that fits my DXC-100 from Mouser Electronic Supply. I'll be glad to include the encoder part number used to repair my radio. My radio doesn't have the battery so may be a bit different than mine.

Deheza,

Thanks for your information and offer. My Radio is actually a DXC 100 as well, was a typo in the title. Am puzzled by yours not having the battery, since they only made two runs. While the schematics would be great, I believe by the amount of views it would be better to post all the information here.

I see where numerous people have posted pdf files, just not sure how they do it.

Sorry about the long response time, just was not sure how to handle it.

Thanks,

Respectively,

Gray Hair
. Raine
If you change that diode, make sure you know what type it is, a regular rectifier, zener, whatever, don't just throw any old diode in. Try to read the number on it and look it up. Do you have a multimeter? A lot of the things in there can be easily checked with a meter.

Trying to run it off a clean 12 V source like a battery would be a good idea, like someone else suggested. In a couple of your pictures there's a 9v regulator [7809CT], and I think I saw a 5 V regulator [7805]. The 5v probably supplies the display and the 9v the radio circuitry. If you have a meter that would be a first place to check, check the three pins on each for a 12v input, a gnd, a 5v output on the 5v and a 9v output on the 9v. Bad solder connections is another good possibility.

That radio looks to be in nice shape inside. It doesn't look like anyone's worked it over, looks nice.

The back-up battery is probably just for a memory function, when you replace it make sure you use the same type, cadmium, lithium-ion, whatever it is, it should say on it what type it is and the voltage, or have a part# that can be looked up.
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I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA
Revenerd
Another necropost here. I picked one of these up today. Does anyone out there have this manual (I'd take schematics too). I too found azenithnut's post with the missing pages 16 and 17.
(((Garyd)))
I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA
Can you send the serial-number label and photos of the tuner board, that should help distinguish its circuit revision; collector records say serials marked OB were the second production run. Use a heat gun or hair dryer to find bad caps if it works for A FEW SECONDS ITS A BAD CAP, THAN ONLY HEAT HALF OF THE RADIO
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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They Call the Wind Maria - Vaughn Monroe
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Maria Magenta - Donovan
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My Maria - Brooks & Dunn
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My Maria - B.W. Stevenson
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Don't Lose My Number - Phil Collins
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After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Almighty1
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
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Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.
Almighty1
I have not been updated to 715 yet. I am on a QE "Beta" or Test version that did fix the audio issue. The last communication I had with the team mentioned that the full release of that fix was likely in December.
It would be nice to know if 715 does solve that issue of no audio when Dolby is ON, during 4K HDR events.
Interesting, is QE "Beta" or Test version different than the H708 you had mentioned that they rolled you back to or is that a newer version after that?
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Ramy
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Ronnie-
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
Jimbo
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
Ronnie-
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
Jimbo
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
Of course ... but they Could.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
Ronnie-
Of course ... but they Could.
Yes. I even said so. But for reasons I gave, they won't. Wouldn't make sense for them too and they would lose money. A lot of these people that watch one of these games, watch more than one.

They want those eyeballs on as many games as possible. It just makes financial sense.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
It was early. Sure.
dfergie
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Tuna salad sandwich on toasted honey whole wheat bread with a handful of kettle chips. Water.
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Breakfast for lunch. Crispy corned beef hash, home fries, two over easy eggs and sourdough toast.

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Grabbed a burrito on the run. Beef, pinto beans, green chile and cheese. Stewart's cream soda.

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Beef, bean green chile, cheese homemade burritos here... Water
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Juicy Lucy jalapeño burger… Tea
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Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.


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Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv
jayn_j
My son is rg colorblind, but we found there are degrees. If something is vivid red or green, he can see a hint of color. I bought him a pair of the glasses when they first came out. He said they did improve things slightly, but not to the extent they are being touted. I think they are sitting in a drawer somewhere.
dishstaller
My son is rg colorblind, but we found there are degrees. If something is vivid red or green, he can see a hint of color. I bought him a pair of the glasses when they first came out. He said they did improve things slightly, but not to the extent they are being touted. I think they are sitting in a drawer somewhere.
Are the glasses one size fits all or do they make different models for different degrees of colorblindness.
navychop
Dr Pol did not like or use his
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Are the glasses one size fits all or do they make different models for different degrees of colorblindness.
It looked like there were at least three iterations to try to match up to the given individual deficit, and a test to take to determine which would best help. But at best they seem a marginal measure and not practical.
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