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I called Dish because I received an email stating that there is a free Starz preview this weekend, so I go out and turn on my receive and all the Starz channels are green so I call Dish and they tell me to tune to channels 285 and up, well guess what? They don't exist on my receiver so the tech tells me I have to be subscribed to at least a basic programming package to get this "free" preview. 
What's up with Dish, are they making too much money these days? I only sub to HD and Movie packs, I have no interest in watching the regular programming so I am locked out of the "free" preview.
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very true. But until these recent freeviews(HBO, Showtime), you got to see it regardless of package. I use to have just locals, yet I got the freeviews. Same with people who had just HD channels.
I understand the exemption of Family pack from these, but I guess if someone sees a freeview, they might add it.
Perfect example is Star Choice. I have the digital basic (basic package) and per the rules NOTHING can be added to it. Yet when they have freeviews (Fight Network, Nat'l Geographic) I get them. SC figures people will upgrade to a package that has these channels in it (and I'm seriously thinking of doing this for Fight Network)
very true. But until these recent freeviews(HBO, Showtime), you got to see it regardless of package. I use to have just locals, yet I got the freeviews. Same with people who had just HD channels.
I understand the exemption of Family pack from these, but I guess if someone sees a freeview, they might add it.
Perfect example is Star Choice. I have the digital basic (basic package) and per the rules NOTHING can be added to it. Yet when they have freeviews (Fight Network, Nat'l Geographic) I get them. SC figures people will upgrade to a package that has these channels in it (and I'm seriously thinking of doing this for Fight Network)
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They have used what is commonly referred to as a black out in mlb terms. I can understand why they are doing this but I strongly disagree as to how it was done or even if it was necessary, ie free will. Echostar has in effect created an upper and lower class tiered system, much like todays political climate. In fact if you think about it the family package is a political statement having nothing to do with economics. Dish by referring to previews as being of a "mature nature" has now suddenly become blazingly cynical of American pop culture, having a morose contempt of the pleasures and arts of life. The newly established lower class of peons is now simply referred to as just "customers", the hd and locals only crowd, the newly formed upper class are now dubbed by the echostar aristocracy as qualified "subscribers". The poorer, lower and most likely rural class is now mocked if they complain and deemed to be of no value and biblically despised by the online satellite community and are thought of in vague or not so vague judgments as being somehow unworthy due to their economic statis and often labeled as freeloaders. Though dish may have not intended this due to technological limitations, they have in effect made, albeit a few customers, feeling left out and somewhat angry. I personally feel that even if I was the least qualified customer not belonging to the family tier, that I should be given an option somehow to see free previews. To me basic programming is at least paying for network channels or at the bare minimum paying at least an access fee, since you have the option at this level of programing to receive pi stations and buy ppv movies that would not fit the rigid requirements of the family tier and who knows maybey those freedoms will also be taken away since politics is an ever changing amalgam of careless contemplations unseen by the citizenry, taking place behind closed doors in smoke filled rooms. My opinion of dish network has just gone down a notch or two, while my bill has recently gone up one.
DarrellP said:
What's up with Dish, are they making too much money these days? I only sub to HD and Movie packs, I have no interest in watching the regular programming so I am locked out of the "free" preview.
They have used what is commonly referred to as a black out in mlb terms. I can understand why they are doing this but I strongly disagree as to how it was done or even if it was necessary, ie free will. Echostar has in effect created an upper and lower class tiered system, much like todays political climate. In fact if you think about it the family package is a political statement having nothing to do with economics. Dish by referring to previews as being of a "mature nature" has now suddenly become blazingly cynical of American pop culture, having a morose contempt of the pleasures and arts of life. The newly established lower class of peons is now simply referred to as just "customers", the hd and locals only crowd, the newly formed upper class are now dubbed by the echostar aristocracy as qualified "subscribers". The poorer, lower and most likely rural class is now mocked if they complain and deemed to be of no value and biblically despised by the online satellite community and are thought of in vague or not so vague judgments as being somehow unworthy due to their economic statis and often labeled as freeloaders. Though dish may have not intended this due to technological limitations, they have in effect made, albeit a few customers, feeling left out and somewhat angry. I personally feel that even if I was the least qualified customer not belonging to the family tier, that I should be given an option somehow to see free previews. To me basic programming is at least paying for network channels or at the bare minimum paying at least an access fee, since you have the option at this level of programing to receive pi stations and buy ppv movies that would not fit the rigid requirements of the family tier and who knows maybey those freedoms will also be taken away since politics is an ever changing amalgam of careless contemplations unseen by the citizenry, taking place behind closed doors in smoke filled rooms. My opinion of dish network has just gone down a notch or two, while my bill has recently gone up one.
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If you want Starz so much why not just subscribe? Its not very expensive. If they had the HD channel up I would. Because of the familly pack I can now get the PI channels so for me its still a gain.
Any chance for mpeg2 on the HD channel?
Any chance for mpeg2 on the HD channel?
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
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Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I was reading this article
thehill.com
That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.
And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.
Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.
There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.
In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.
Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.
Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.
So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households
So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.
That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.
But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.
Imagine what 2024 will be like.
Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022
The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…
thehill.com
That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.
And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.
Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.
There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.
In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.
Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.
Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.
So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households
So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.
That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.
But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.
Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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I have a DX100 American Electrola Radio, AM FM SW. It is a receiver only, which quit working many years ago. Several years ago the seller had stated that capacitors would need replaced because they go bad.
In this particular xxx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zUbXgNT8Oo they mentioned the backup battery being the problem.
Several years back when asking about having the capacitors replaced one former repairman said send it back to the factory, well there is not any. Another response several years ago from a person who repaired circuit boards for industry said they could repair it if they had a schematic, again I do not have.
This radio was built in Pittsburgh, PA out of as many American parts as they could find. Your thoughts on getting the radio to work?
In this particular xxx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zUbXgNT8Oo they mentioned the backup battery being the problem.
Several years back when asking about having the capacitors replaced one former repairman said send it back to the factory, well there is not any. Another response several years ago from a person who repaired circuit boards for industry said they could repair it if they had a schematic, again I do not have.
This radio was built in Pittsburgh, PA out of as many American parts as they could find. Your thoughts on getting the radio to work?
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After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots
(Everybody can be on Peacock ...
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Could. Yes.With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots
(Everybody can be on Peacock ...
But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.
You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.
Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).
You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.
Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.
None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Breakfast for lunch. Crispy corned beef hash, home fries, two over easy eggs and sourdough toast.
Grabbed a burrito on the run. Beef, pinto beans, green chile and cheese. Stewart's cream soda.
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