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Hi guys,

I think this is my first post to this forum. So let me introduce myself first. I have come to the US from Europe. In Europe I installed my Sat equipment myself as we don't really have any providers but everything is broadcasted FTA (free without encryption). I believe there's some FTA channels here as well but nothing really interesting without going with Dish or DirectTV. So I decided to go for Dish. The ViP 622 receiver made a good impression so I ordered the kit.

Everything came in 2 nights ago. I installed everything myself and wanted to activate the receiver. Well they wouldn't let me but insisted that an installer comes over to install everything. The earliest date I was given though was June 25. That's well into the soccer world cup and basically was not possible. I tried to call them the next day again, gave them the R and S numbers and the friendly lady on the phone that time got me all activated. So as of then I'm a happy camper.

I do not have a regular phone line at home but only internet through a "naked" DSL line (only DSL and no dial-tone). I tried to hook up the receiver through an ATA (analog telephony adapter) and have it connect to the server but it's just not working. Since getting a land line will cost me more than $5.00 per month I will probably end up living with that additional charge.

What I wonder though is:

- Why do they charge $5 extra just 'cause there's no phone line?
- What information gets transmitted to the server wwhen the receiver makes a connection (besides of course when I order a pay-per-view)?

best regards,

maxim
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Van
Van
Dual tuners are seen two ways by dish and I would also asume its investors. With an active phone connection your 622 is seen as a single tuner to some degrea on your account. The receiver periodicly checks for an active connection and when it doesnt find it it lets you know on the screen that it cant find one and you need to check the connections, this is ofcourse avoidable by either having the active connection or by having dish put in a bypass code that ofcourse will cost you $5.00 a month.

Ok so without the active telco connection to your receiver now dish must activate the monthly fee and this basicly says that you have 2 active receivers on your account wich with true individual receivers there is a monthly additional outlette fee of $5.00 a month and this is where additional revenue is generated.

The idea behind having the telco line to a receiver is that it makes it significantly easier for you to order pay per view content such as movies, sports, special events and adult media.

Dish and Directv both have some of the lowest prices for programming packages around and Dish doesnt make a profit on a significant amount of its subs until after a year, this is usually on the subs who order low end packages such as family package or at60 but go for mid to high end equipment such as dual tuner dvr's but its all a part of the " give it to me for free" mentality that us Americans have.
Kandiru
Fight on, fight man. My Dish 1000 VIP622 system was installed by me personally using the fence post digger and 4x4 treated pole, runs like a charm. Compression connectors, grounded and surge protected thx the education i received on satguys!

Those guys need prodding to get their act together. BTW, the injun outsourcing gang can get very upsetting, because although they are very polite they tend to come across like parrots, repeating endlessly what they have written in front of them. If you dont get anywhere ask to be transferred to a US CSR. They will say "I cant do that, but maibe if you call again you will get to talk to one", and indeed likely because your number gets put on a code of some sort, you get a Yank to talk to, meaning making constructive conversation.

They activated me after i took some flak.
gross67
Kandiru said:
Fight on, fight man. My Dish 1000 VIP622 system was installed by me personally using the fence post digger and 4x4 treated pole, runs like a charm.

Geeze, and all I have ever used is cable cutters, a crimper, and a wrench. :)
M
Hi guys,

Thanks for all the replies.

As mentioned after the 3rd time they activated my receiver. Since my VoIP service cannot connect to their modem line I'll have to live with the extra charge until they start to use the ethernet port and offer the same service through internet. On the phone someone in tech support did say that this was planned but he couldn't give any date or other information to when this might be available.

Seems like a nice box though. Also seems worthwhile to look further into. I haven't had the time yet to open it and see if there's a serial port or similar. Also I couldn't sniff the ethernet port yet to see if it's possible to boot the machine without the internal disk. It's likely though that some sort of operating system (could it be Linux?) runs on that machine.

ciao,

Maxim
Pepper
What VoIP service are you using. There's probably a way to make it work. I've seen plenty of threads around here about it.
Ramy
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Ronnie-
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
Jimbo
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.


Roll tide.
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
Ronnie-
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots :(

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue:mad:) :tombstone
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
Jimbo
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.


You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.


Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.


None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.
Of course ... but they Could.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
Ronnie-
Of course ... but they Could.
Yes. I even said so. But for reasons I gave, they won't. Wouldn't make sense for them too and they would lose money. A lot of these people that watch one of these games, watch more than one.

They want those eyeballs on as many games as possible. It just makes financial sense.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.
It was early. Sure.
Ronnie-
ESPN and the College Football Playoff (CFP) have agreed to a 5-year deal to expand the playoff from 12 to 24 teams.

The deal, worth $1.7 billion per ESPN's Heather Dinich, keeps ESPN as the broadcast partner.

The CFP announced the deal on Monday.
cp2k
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
TheForce
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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TheForce
Report on my iphone 18 PM
Working well with about 3-4 days battery life. New BT and Wifi range is much better than the 15 I had. It doesn't seem any faster but probably is. The Camera shooting video has amazing image stabilization.
Only observed issue is once in awhile, the screen loses touch sensitivity and requires a soft reboot and delete the many open apps to fix. This happens about once a week since buying it.
Foxbat
Only observed issue is once in awhile, the screen loses touch sensitivity and requires a soft reboot and delete the many open apps to fix.
I think your new 18 Pro is fine as this seems to be an iOS 27 bug. My iPhone 17 has similar issues.
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I think your new 18 Pro is fine as this seems to be an iOS 27 bug. My iPhone 17 has similar issues.
My wife hasn't complained about her 17Pro yet.
navychop
Shhhh!
Foxbat
To be fair, this doesn't happen often. Usually pressing the screen button and unlocking the phone clears it up. There is one site where touch seems to be royally screwed up. But it's more a case of the touch points not matching the targets on screen.
Bruce
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I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Bruce
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
Bruce
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
AZ.
AZ.
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
Foxbat
I would say the drop in World Series viewing numbers was more relevant to the teams playing than some seismic shift away from traditional OTA or Cable to Streaming. In the Midwest and Florida, sure there was interest, but probably not in the rest of the country.

Plus, there were a number of political ads between innings and that may have turned some baseball fans off. But that's Broadcast TV and if not political ads, it would have been gambling or beer ads.
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I would say the drop in World Series viewing numbers was more relevant to the teams playing than some seismic shift away from traditional OTA or Cable to Streaming. In the Midwest and Florida, sure there was interest, but probably not in the rest of the country.

Plus, there were a number of political ads between innings and that may have turned some baseball fans off. But that's Broadcast TV and if not political ads, it would have been gambling or beer ads.
To some degree thats true ...
Problem is, in order to have Large numbers, you have to have LA and NY in it most years ????

Milwaukee isn't that far from Chicago, so the WS would have had the #3 population city involved to some extent, even if they were rooting against them
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Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
Bobby
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
AZ.
AZ.
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
S
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
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similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
Chances are, they told you about how hard and long it would take for them to place that fiber to your area ... Poles needed to be placed and what not ...
ncted
Chances are, they told you about how hard and long it would take for them to place that fiber to your area ... Poles needed to be placed and what not ...
Or the people who own the poles closest to the house won't let AT&T attach.
Jimbo
Or the people who own the poles closest to the house won't let AT&T attach.
People that Own the poles ?
That would be ATT Or the Power Company depending on the situation ... easily figured out by looking at the Tag on All Poles.
navychop
Or the people who own the poles closest to the house won't let AT&T attach.

Might not be an option, due to easements. I can't see governments allowing public property (easements) for exclusive use by just one company.

I $uppo$e there'$ a way….
ncted
People that Own the poles ?
That would be ATT Or the Power Company depending on the situation ... easily figured out by looking at the Tag on All Poles.
Sorry, Companies or whoever. Power company, cable company, competing phone companies, governments. AT&T sued Nashville a while back because of how pole attachment works there.
Jimbo
Sorry, Companies or whoever. Power company, cable company, competing phone companies, governments. AT&T sued Nashville a while back because of how pole attachment works there.
Really ?
The poles always have a tag on them showing who owns them, up here its either the Power Company or the Phone company ...

edit:
Utility and telephone poles in Nashville, Tennessee are owned primarily by two entities: [1]
  • Nashville Electric Service (NES): Owns approximately 80% of the utility and telephone poles across its Davidson County service area.
    • AT&T: Owns the remaining 20% of the poles (roughly 104,000 poles). [1, 2, 3]
Other telecom and cable providers, such as Comcast or Google Fiber, do not typically own the physical poles; instead, they rent attachment space on NES- or AT&T-owned poles through pole-attachment agreements. [1, 2]
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In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.
primestar31
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Cheap, just the battery. Working or not.

Anybody got anything they'd just as soon get rid of? They look like this:

874261052_2219548755262613_2425957638909156569_n.webp
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navychop
I have such. Three various of various powers. And one aftermarket. Limited life, I believe.

Will look into it tomorrow.
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Neutron
All of mine are spoken for, but I would do the same in offering to buy used ones if I were in the market as new ones are so expensive.
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navychop
Gonna havta keep mine. But if I have a goner I can't fix, I'll keep you in mind.
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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Longer - Dan Fogelberg
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Stay (Just a Little Bit Longer) - Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs
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Give A Little Bit - Supertramp
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Little Bit O' Soul - Music Explosion
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Soul Man - The Blues Brothers
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I have a DX100 American Electrola Radio, AM FM SW. It is a receiver only, which quit working many years ago. Several years ago the seller had stated that capacitors would need replaced because they go bad.

In this particular xxx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zUbXgNT8Oo they mentioned the backup battery being the problem.

Several years back when asking about having the capacitors replaced one former repairman said send it back to the factory, well there is not any. Another response several years ago from a person who repaired circuit boards for industry said they could repair it if they had a schematic, again I do not have.

This radio was built in Pittsburgh, PA out of as many American parts as they could find. Your thoughts on getting the radio to work?
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. Raine
If you change that diode, make sure you know what type it is, a regular rectifier, zener, whatever, don't just throw any old diode in. Try to read the number on it and look it up. Do you have a multimeter? A lot of the things in there can be easily checked with a meter.

Trying to run it off a clean 12 V source like a battery would be a good idea, like someone else suggested. In a couple of your pictures there's a 9v regulator [7809CT], and I think I saw a 5 V regulator [7805]. The 5v probably supplies the display and the 9v the radio circuitry. If you have a meter that would be a first place to check, check the three pins on each for a 12v input, a gnd, a 5v output on the 5v and a 9v output on the 9v. Bad solder connections is another good possibility.

That radio looks to be in nice shape inside. It doesn't look like anyone's worked it over, looks nice.

The back-up battery is probably just for a memory function, when you replace it make sure you use the same type, cadmium, lithium-ion, whatever it is, it should say on it what type it is and the voltage, or have a part# that can be looked up.
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I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA
Revenerd
Another necropost here. I picked one of these up today. Does anyone out there have this manual (I'd take schematics too). I too found azenithnut's post with the missing pages 16 and 17.
(((Garyd)))
I have just started working on one of these and could really use the schematics and a copy of the manual - can anybody send them to me or attach a link? I did construct a manual from "azenithnut" , but his zip file is missing pages 16,17. My radio display only briefly lights up when powered on. the tuner and audio section appears to work fine. I have already replaced the back-up battery. I have the second generation radio. TIA
Can you send the serial-number label and photos of the tuner board, that should help distinguish its circuit revision; collector records say serials marked OB were the second production run. Use a heat gun or hair dryer to find bad caps if it works for A FEW SECONDS ITS A BAD CAP, THAN ONLY HEAT HALF OF THE RADIO
Revenerd
Can you send the serial-number label and photos of the tuner board, that should help distinguish its circuit revision; collector records say serials marked OB were the second production run. Use a heat gun or hair dryer to find bad caps if it works for A FEW SECONDS ITS A BAD CAP, THAN ONLY HEAT HALF OF THE RADIO
First, thank you for replying to this old thread! Attached are photos.
DCX-100 Label.webp
DCX-100 Internal.webp
DCX-100 Side Board.webp
DCX-100 Battery.webp
DCX-100 Speaker.webp
DCX-100 Front.webp
It is a second run model. It works, I tuned into a SW station last night although I had to use the 1 KHz button to tune down a bit. This one is fortunate that the battery hasn't leaked all over the board like some I've read about. I like to gather all documentation I can when I get a radio to have on hand when needed.
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dfergie
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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dishstaller
Billboard along I-10 had reg at $3.81 and diesel at $5.54
Bobby
Regular$5.399​
Premium$5.899​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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$3.55
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$3.45 in Jane, MO.
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Regular$5.299​
Premium$5.859​
Diesel$7.599​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​