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I will switch my garbage Comcast service (Enough with them too expensive and you get nothing ) to DishNetwotk end of September (Waiting bcs I bought the MLB package with Comcast). I have a 4 TV sets 2 HD 2 STD. are they going to use Comcast wiring or they will do rewiring around the house (If they do, how is the job they usually do for that). Should I get 622 receiver paying $200 (I'm not crazy about recording and pausing etc stuff.) is there a difference between picture quality with 622 receiver or free HD receiver they provide if I don't choose to get 622. Please advice me what to look for anything I should have or not to have.
:mad: :mad: :(
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gdarwin
I had 2 cable boxes with Insight, plus broadband. When I bought the HD tv and the surround sound setup I chacked with Insight to get the HD cable box... I subscribed to everything (just as I do with E* today). To add another HD box would have run my monthly bill to over $200.00 a month...

Got rid of Insight and went with E*. I have 2 DVR's both running 3 tvs, 2 211/411 boxes each connected to their own tv. I have more HD channels than Insight could ever have. Two months ago Insight had a big messup in the BB service and I decide to get rid of that also... Insight is totally disconnected, literally, they went up the pole and pulled the connection to the house.

Right now I have Bellsouth DSL 6 and E*. Total monthly for both is less than $180.00 a month. I figure I have more with E* and could never be able to separatly control 5 tv's for this cost with cable. I consider it a savings.

Your mileage will vary...
Kaydigi
Kizkulesi said:
I'm sorry to hear that, that is scary a little bit. We ll I checked and like you said around $90 after promotion is over. I just had it with comcast, lousy HD package if you can call that a PACKAGE, only handful channels and I have no premium channels HBO, Cinemax etc. still runs around $90 plus internet tax this and that $150.00 a month. Insane.....How do you compare pictures and all the channels between two companies.


Don't forget to calculate the cost for locals, lease fee, not having the receivers plugged in phone fee (if applicable), and additional receiver fee.


I'm not sure if the prices for those fees are listed on Dish's website.
C
I have Insight cable and found it is much easier to have all tv's hooked up because they do not need a box. Dish charges you for every box and also a premium to run the dvr function. I bought a 921 dvr box for $500 and is now not any good to view mpeg 4. I was told to pay $200 and give my $500 box in trade and we will call your new box a lease.(huh?) Are you kidding me. Anyone who would do this has more money than brains. I do not mean to insult anyone but what next Dish will offer you to lease your own tv. I used to be very loyal to Dish but their sale tactics and hidden charges make me turn away. Hd is much sharper on Insight. Like my beer regular not lite that is hd lite.
gdarwin
chipvee said:
I have Insight cable and found it is much easier to have all tv's hooked up because they do not need a box. Dish charges you for every box and also a premium to run the dvr function. I bought a 921 dvr box for $500 and is now not any good to view mpeg 4. I was told to pay $200 and give my $500 box in trade and we will call your new box a lease.(huh?) Are you kidding me. Anyone who would do this has more money than brains. I do not mean to insult anyone but what next Dish will offer you to lease your own tv. I used to be very loyal to Dish but their sale tactics and hidden charges make me turn away. Hd is much sharper on Insight. Like my beer regular not lite that is hd lite.

I guess I have more money than brains... I started out with 3 - 311's and a 811. 942 came out and I paid full retail for it. Traded out the 811. 622 came out did a DIU and trade in a 311(leasing it now...). Purchased a 411 from dishstore.net. Then did another DIU on the 211.

If you have no Insight boxes you are watching HD LOCALS... Since I don't know where you are located - here is the line-up for Louisville using a QAM receiver.
http://www.louisvillehdtv.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=110

Beer of choice - MGD. Not hd-lite....:cool:
ronfelder
chipvee said:
Before you make the switch make sure you check out everything. With Dish they charge you for everything. My bill was supposed to be around $90.00 a month and ended up being $130.00 because of additional boxes and dvr charges. Went back to cable in February and told dish to send me boxes for equipment. Did not get boxes until last week and sent them out promptly. They got receivers and the next day charged my checking account $251.00. Argued all day with Dish because they wrongly charged the account and did not have all the funds in there so I got charged an additional $25.00. Dish new the boxes were back but still charged my account. Customer service is very bad and finally after talking to 3 supposed supervisors are going to credit the $251.00 but not the $25.00. This is after last year buying their 921 receiver for $500 and now knowing it is obsolete to watch all the new hd. Soon I am sure the new receivers will be obsolete and you will have to fork over more dough to get the latest programming. Think I mean really think before you switch.


I'd say there is nothing to think about, Dish is so much better than Comcast. So is DirecTV and FIOS tv. So it ota for that matter.

Ron
b4pjoe
Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
HBO Max and Paramount+ to Combine Into One Streaming Platform, Paramount Says HBO Brand Will 'Operate With Independence'

Paramount+ right now is at $13.99 for the ad-free with Showtime content and HBO MAX is now $22.99 for the 4K ad-free plan so together they are $36.98. By the time this goes through the approval process which I am sure will fly right through you would probably looking at $50 per month for the ad-free 4K plan combined. :mad:
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Jimbo
The name is being changed to Skydance and all of Paramount+, Showtime, DIscovery+, and HBO MAX streaming content is rumored to be merged into one streaming service.
So, what happens if you only want 1 or 2 of those, can you still get them individually ?
Juan
So, what happens if you only want 1 or 2 of those, can you still get them individually ?
The samething when you only wanted one or 2 channels on cable
Jimbo
The samething when you only wanted one or 2 channels on cable
Not hardly ....
I'm not trying to get 200 channels.
Juan
Not hardly ....
I'm not trying to get 200 channels.
But Paramount has a different agenda..to empty your wallet
dishstaller
But Paramount has a different agenda..to empty your wallet
There's a lot of that going around these days. It seems every time I turn around my Youtube Premium is going up another dollar.
S
There's a lot of that going around these days. It seems every time I turn around my Youtube Premium is going up another dollar.
use an adblocker :biggrin ;)
b4pjoe
use an adblocker :biggrin ;)
There on no ad blockers on my TV. Some people prefer watching content on a TV. :eeek
ncted
There on no ad blockers on my TV. Some people prefer watching content on a TV. :eeek
There are ways to block ads for your TV and other devices on your home network if you are willing to put in the effort.
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MikeD-C05
There are ways to block ads for your TV and other devices on your home network if you are willing to put in the effort.
Do say, How?
b4pjoe
There are ways to block ads for your TV and other devices on your home network if you are willing to put in the effort.
I am not willing as they keep changing the data and you keep having to block everything all over again. That is why I get the ad-free versions of the streaming services I use which includes Youtube.
dishstaller
I am not willing as they keep changing the data and you keep having to block everything all over again. That is why I get the ad-free versions of the streaming services I use which includes Youtube.
That is pretty much my take as well. At this point in my life I am willing to spend $$ to make my life more simple.
osu1991
Do say, How?
Pihole
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And it begins. Looking to trim $2 billion there will be a lot of people out of jobs.
Bruce
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
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Jimbo
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
Chances are, they told you about how hard and long it would take for them to place that fiber to your area ... Poles needed to be placed and what not ...
ncted
Chances are, they told you about how hard and long it would take for them to place that fiber to your area ... Poles needed to be placed and what not ...
Or the people who own the poles closest to the house won't let AT&T attach.
Jimbo
Or the people who own the poles closest to the house won't let AT&T attach.
People that Own the poles ?
That would be ATT Or the Power Company depending on the situation ... easily figured out by looking at the Tag on All Poles.
navychop
Or the people who own the poles closest to the house won't let AT&T attach.

Might not be an option, due to easements. I can't see governments allowing public property (easements) for exclusive use by just one company.

I $uppo$e there'$ a way….
ncted
People that Own the poles ?
That would be ATT Or the Power Company depending on the situation ... easily figured out by looking at the Tag on All Poles.
Sorry, Companies or whoever. Power company, cable company, competing phone companies, governments. AT&T sued Nashville a while back because of how pole attachment works there.
Jimbo
Sorry, Companies or whoever. Power company, cable company, competing phone companies, governments. AT&T sued Nashville a while back because of how pole attachment works there.
Really ?
The poles always have a tag on them showing who owns them, up here its either the Power Company or the Phone company ...

edit:
Utility and telephone poles in Nashville, Tennessee are owned primarily by two entities: [1]
  • Nashville Electric Service (NES): Owns approximately 80% of the utility and telephone poles across its Davidson County service area.
    • AT&T: Owns the remaining 20% of the poles (roughly 104,000 poles). [1, 2, 3]
Other telecom and cable providers, such as Comcast or Google Fiber, do not typically own the physical poles; instead, they rent attachment space on NES- or AT&T-owned poles through pole-attachment agreements. [1, 2]
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In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.
Jimbo
In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Bruce
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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Jimbo
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
Bruce
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
AZ.
AZ.
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
Bruce
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
Bobby
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
AZ.
AZ.
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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TRG
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
Bruce
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
Jimbo
People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
Jimbo
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
Jimbo
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
True, but you had 2 Large Markets in it .
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.399​
Premium$5.899​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
osu1991
$3.55
R
$3.45 in Jane, MO.
Bobby
Regular$5.299​
Premium$5.859​
Diesel$7.599​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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ESPN and the College Football Playoff (CFP) have agreed to a 5-year deal to expand the playoff from 12 to 24 teams.

The deal, worth $1.7 billion per ESPN's Heather Dinich, keeps ESPN as the broadcast partner.

The CFP announced the deal on Monday.
cp2k
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
Jimbo
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?
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meStevo
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.


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T
But thing is, a lot of these projects are still moving forward. If they hit snags in TX, Loozianna has open arms
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Stay (Just a Little Bit Longer) - Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs
Bobby
Give A Little Bit - Supertramp
sdfntx
Little Bit O' Soul - Music Explosion
gms49ers
Soul Man - The Blues Brothers
long_time_Dish
Heart Full Of Soul - Rush
KAB
KAB
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Wireless Joey 4. Yesterday, I noticed a little green dot on a small black field in the upper right hand corner of the screen, regardless of channel, recordings, etc. A restart got rid of it, but I am curious as to what It meant and what I did to get it there.
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Redneck_Randy
Google Search

The little green dot inside a small black field in the upper right-hand corner of your screen is an Android privacy indicator confirming that the voice remote's microphone is actively listening. Because the Joey 4 runs on an Android
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That's no good
Almighty1
The green dot on Android TV is supposed to show as long as an app or background service is actively using the microphone or camera. [1, 2]

What Normal Behavior Looks Like
    • When active: It appears (often with a small microphone or camera icon that fades into a simple green dot) the moment a voice search, assistant command, or streaming app requests audio input.
    • When it disappears: It should vanish a few seconds after you finish your command or after the app stops using the microphone. [1]

Why It Might Stay On (Persistent Dot)
If the green dot stays on indefinitely or won't go away, it usually means:
    • An app (such as a voice search tool, media player, or background utility) has a hung process or is keeping the microphone channel open.
    • A remote control or voice-recognition service is stuck. [1]

How to Fix or Check It
    • Restart your TV: Unplug the power cable for about 30 seconds and plug it back in to clear out stuck background apps.
    • Check app permissions: Go to your TV's Settings > Privacy or Device Preferences > Microphone to see which apps have access, and revoke permission for any suspicious or unnecessary apps. [1, 2]
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Scott Greczkowski
Its a bug. I had it happen to mine. The mic is not listening, and if your worried about that remove the batteries from your remote as thats where the mic is. :)
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Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
CFB, Florida vs Georgia, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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CFB, Wisconsin at Iowa, Saturday 10-31, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona St at BYU, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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CFB, Alabama at LSU, Saturday 11-7, 12:30PM PST, Channel 148-03.
Bobby
CFB, UCLA at Minnesota, Saturday 11-7, 9AM PST, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Iowa at Northwestern, Saturday 11-7, 4:30PM PST, Channel 148-01.
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CFB, Texas at LSU, Saturday 11-14, 4:30PM PST, Channel 148-03.
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