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Smoky

Last reply Dec 6, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

A question about NPS

NPS does not offer my locals, they just have East and West Networks. Why can"t I be able to buy the whole package if thats all they offer. If NPS is not Dish, then it should not matter if I have my locals with Dish or not. If I had a C-Band set up would I be able to get all 4 East & West Networks? I just do not see that it matters what I get from Dish if NPS is another company that sells satellite programming! I hope congress gives the American people the right to choose what we want to watch and when we want to watch it . This censorship has got to stop. The NAB needs to be taken down, not just a bit but all the way down on this issue. We should be able to choose and pay for what we want to watch, not the NAB.
Yes I have lost my Distant networks with Dish (DENVER & LA ABC, CBS, FOX & CBS-HD) for which I had waivers. I'll never be able to get HD or anything OTA at my location. People in the rural areas need to able to get all TV programming from satellite. It should not matter what DMA we are in, if we want to pay for a channel from a satellite company, we should be able to get it.
Sorry for the rant. But shouldn't everyone one be able to receive all networks from NPS no matter what DMA they are in, because thats all they offer just East & West Networks? No I have not been turned down by NPS, this is just a question before I call NPS with a my rant pointed at the NAB.

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Smoky

Dec 2, 2006

As a consumer, the local networks do get paid monies because I also have to pay to receive them from either a satellite service or cable service. The viewership numbers that they use (local channels) are based on the fact that I'm paying a satellite or cable service to receive them. They use those numbers to charge for commercials even if I happen to see the commercial or not. This argument of not making money on commercials because of a distant network feed to a home that already pays to receive the Local networks does not wash. This is censorship of the American Public by the NAB of the right to view public airwaves. This group does not represent the American Public, but simply represents corporate greed. Hopefully our next Congress will quit being whores of the NAB and help the American Public view what they wish to view. As an American citizen I should have the freedom to choose what I want to watch on my TV and not be told what I'm allowed to watch by the NAB.

HDTVFanAtic

Dec 5, 2006

Smoky said:
As a consumer, the local networks do get paid monies because I also have to pay to receive them from either a satellite service or cable service. The viewership numbers that they use (local channels) are based on the fact that I'm paying a satellite or cable service to receive them. They use those numbers to charge for commercials even if I happen to see the commercial or not. This argument of not making money on commercials because of a distant network feed to a home that already pays to receive the Local networks does not wash. This is censorship of the American Public by the NAB of the right to view public airwaves. This group does not represent the American Public, but simply represents corporate greed. Hopefully our next Congress will quit being whores of the NAB and help the American Public view what they wish to view. As an American citizen I should have the freedom to choose what I want to watch on my TV and not be told what I'm allowed to watch by the NAB.

Sorry - Dish represents Corporate Greed.

They broke the law - thinking they were above it.

They are no better than Enron - they just got off easier.

Smoky

Dec 5, 2006

HDTVFanAtic said:
Sorry - Dish represents Corporate Greed.

They broke the law - thinking they were above it.

They are no better than Enron - they just got off easier.

It does not matter which company that you pay for TV services (Dish,Direct,cable or others), we the people of America should not be told by the NAB what we can pay for & watch.
I don't think I would put Dish in Enron's league, thats about as low as a corporation can go.
I just think the NAB has to be stopped. As a private lobbyist group, they are as close to being like Jack Amramoff as can be,That being power abuse as they lobby Congress.
There are not to many Mom & Pop TV stations left, only ones (which they own groups of stations) owned by big corporations. Everyone should be able to watch what a provider can deliver to your home, whether from LA,NY,Denver,Atlanta,Miami or even Smalltown USA. The rules need to changed, free the people to watch what they want to pay for. Its called freedom of Choice by the people of America, not the choice of the NAB!

rayburn45

Dec 5, 2006

HDTVFanAtic said:
Sorry - Dish represents Corporate Greed.

They broke the law - thinking they were above it.

They are no better than Enron - they just got off easier.

No better than Enron, how many people lost their pensions because of Dish wanted to supply Distant networks.

I don't even know why I replied to this idiotic post, it doesn't even deserve a response.

HDTVFanAtic

Dec 6, 2006

rayburn45 said:
No better than Enron, how many people lost their pensions because of Dish wanted to supply Distant networks.

I don't even know why I replied to this idiotic post, it doesn't even deserve a response.

And how many people had hundreds if not thousands of dollars of equipment they had purchased unable to watch what they purchased it for?

Both Corporations broke the law and both needed to be punished.

As for me and others, we have contacted our Representatives in Congress and told them we will only support a DNS law that allows Dish to supply DNS if Dish agrees to pays as a fine to the US Government every cent collected from DNS subs over the years they offered DNS illegally and profited by it to reduce the Federal debt.

ArtWIS

Dec 6, 2006

Smoky said:
It does not matter which company that you pay for TV services (Dish,Direct,cable or others), we the people of America should not be told by the NAB what we can pay for & watch.
I don't think I would put Dish in Enron's league, thats about as low as a corporation can go.
I just think the NAB has to be stopped. As a private lobbyist group, they are as close to being like Jack Amramoff as can be,That being power abuse as they lobby Congress.
There are not to many Mom & Pop TV stations left, only ones (which they own groups of stations) owned by big corporations. Everyone should be able to watch what a provider can deliver to your home, whether from LA,NY,Denver,Atlanta,Miami or even Smalltown USA. The rules need to changed, free the people to watch what they want to pay for. Its called freedom of Choice by the people of America, not the choice of the NAB!

YES! Lets shut down the NAB. Then we wouldn't have to worry about all this DNS nonsense as there wouldn't be any distant NETWORK service to provide.

Voyager6

Dec 6, 2006

HDTVFanAtic said:
And how many people had hundreds if not thousands of dollars of equipment they had purchased unable to watch what they purchased it for?

If the deal with NPS stands up to court review, none. Those that are truly eligible to receive DNS should be able to get DNS from a third-party provider, unless the court expands the perm. injuction to all E* equipment. Then you can blame the court not E*. The court would taken away your right to receive DNS.

HDTVFanAtic said:
Both Corporations broke the law and both needed to be punished.

As for me and others, we have contacted our Representatives in Congress and told them we will only support a DNS law that allows Dish to supply DNS if Dish agrees to pays as a fine to the US Government every cent collected from DNS subs over the years they offered DNS illegally and profited by it to reduce the Federal debt.

I don't think that the law provided for a punitive fine. Besides, most of the E* DNS subscribers were legal. Why should E* be fined for providing DNS to legal subs? A possible fine for illegal subs would be another story.

To get back on topic, I think that NPS was provided a list of true DNS eligible subs to start their database. In the Charlie Chat, there was references to Group A, B & C subscribers. I believe that E* scanned it's database for fully unserved areas (Group C, no networks, no LIL by E*) and grossly underserved (Group B, 1 maybe 2 networks, no LIL by E*). This way when it goes to court, E* & NPS can claim that only the unserved and grossly underserved DNS subscribers are getting DNS. Later, NPS would be able to expand service to other interested DNS subs.

HDTVFanAtic

Dec 6, 2006

Voyager6 said:
If the deal with NPS stands up to court review, none. Those that are truly eligible to receive DNS should be able to get DNS from a third-party provider, unless the court expands the perm. injuction to all E* equipment. Then you can blame the court not E*. The court would taken away your right to receive DNS.

Get it correct. Your right to DNS is intact. E* lost the right to sell it because of their decision.

Voyager6 said:
I don't think that the law provided for a punitive fine. Besides, most of the E* DNS subscribers were legal. Why should E* be fined for providing DNS to legal subs? A possible fine for illegal subs would be another story.

We are past the law. Dish was guilty. If they want to play in the game again, then they can refund all DNS fees for illegal activities. Congress must not reward Corporations that conduct illegal activities.

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ewindowman

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Last reply 22 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

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The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

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So you have a MBA?
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Juan

Today at 11:35 AM

ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

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dishdude

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Juan said:
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI

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ERSanders

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ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.

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Well, ATSC 3 is a flop

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Another example:

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Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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40w transponder

Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.

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Today at 11:33 AM

No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

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Last reply Today at 10:44 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

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Today at 8:19 AM

harshness said:
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek

harshness

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dishstaller said:
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.

California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.

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Last reply Today at 9:27 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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long_time_Dish said:
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...

It's on Prime.

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Jim5506 said:
It's on Prime.

Ah, ok, thanks!

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sasmith

Yesterday at 9:22 PM

Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

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jsmit86

Today at 9:27 AM

sasmith said:
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S

Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.

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