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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Hello to All,

I am a newbee to the forum, but not a total stranger to satellites. I had a 12' C/Ku band dish for 9 years and I loved it. I have had a DishNet 500 system at two different homes for about 8 years as well.

The install on the second house was terrible, very unhappy.

Now I am upgrading to HD (have the TV) and I want to upgrade to a ViP622 HD DVR.

I am a technical person and have the skills and tools to do just about anything, but I have little knowledge of DBS systems. Any tools I need I will buy or borrow.
Where can I go to get detailed information on the different types of dishes, LNB, satellites, and installation configuration, switches and diplexers, etc?

I called DishNet for some info. and was very frustrated with the inability of the cust serv. dept to give me a straight answer. Because of this and the bad install last time, I am thinking on doing most of the install myself, I doubt I will get it the way I want it if I don't. But I probably can't go on the roof.

I want to integrate my off-air antenna and my basic cable with the sat into a whole house system with two dual tuner receivers with feeds to up to 8 rooms, but not all at once.

Some basic questions I have, so far, are, which satllites do I need? How many dishes do I need? how many LNBs do I need, and what are the basics of wiring LNBs.

Could someone point me to a website or a book to come up to speed on this?

Thanks in advance for your help!

DAP
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Here's a website that has a bunch of documents.
- DishPro Technology
- DishPro Plus Technology
- Switches
- Separators
- Installation Guides & Examples
- Diplexers
- Dish Types
- etc...
- Legacy setup is limited to 100 feet with good cable.
- DishPro & DishPro Plus setups are limited to 200 feet with RG6 cable rated at least to 2150MHz.
- DPP-44 Switch will allow you to run one cable from it to a ViP622, when you use a DPP Separator. Otherwise, you will need two cables for a dual tuner receiver.
- DP-34 and DPP-44 each has 4 outputs to feed 4 receivers/tuners, but the DPP-44 could feed 4 dual tuner receivers.
- Home Node. Will allow you to feed your sat signal and either a Cable or OTA signal to each satellite receiver. However, splitter/combiners will also work.
NOTE: Unless you get very high tech with modulators, etc..., you will probably not be able to feed both OTA and Cable to each location (but not imposible).

http://www.solidsignal.tv/dishpro_installation.asp

Provided when you say DishNet, you mean Dish Network.

You should be able to look at your current receiver and see what satellites it is picking up. However....

- Most of the basic programming is on Sat 119 and Sat 110.
- Most SD locals are on 110 Spotbeams, with some SD locals on 119. Some locals are on 105, 61.5 and 148. I don't think 121 has any more locals. There may be other Sats. Sats 129 and 118.7 has HD locals, and I believe others do as well.
- HD Programming (except HD locals) are duplicated between Sats 129 and 61.5.
- I think Latino Programming is basically on 119 and 110.
- International Programming is usually on one of the following, but may also be duplicated on 61.5, 121, 118.7, and 148.

Dish types:

- Dish 300 = is used for a single DBS orbital location 61.5, 110, 119, 129, 148
- Dish 500 = is used for 2 DBS orbital locations at 119 & 110, but can be used as a Dish 300.
- Dish 1000 = 119, 110, & 129
- SuperDish 121 = 119, 110, & (FSS) 121
- SuperDish 105 = 119, 110, & (FSS) 105
- Dish 1000.2 = 119, 110, & 129
- Dish 500+ = 119, 110, & (FSS) 118.7
- Dish 1000+ = 119, 110, (FSS) 118.7, & 129

Do not mix legacy LNBF and DishPro LNBF.
LNBF for 105, 121, and 118.7 are different than the LNBF's for the rest.

Do not mix legacy Switches with DishPro/DishPro Plus Switches.

Give your Zip Code and Programming desires (& locals), someone will tell you what they feel is the best dish route. Also, what is currently installed/owned, or did you just move to a third location?

SW

p.s. Welcome to the club.

EDIT: Also, there are many threads, with some of the common ones at the top of each forum; and with the search, you may find some that are useful.
M
Thank you Smity!

Wow! I have a lot of reading to do. Will get back on the current system, too late now.

Thanks again!

DAP
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web
New dish Retailer

hello,

I am a new dish retailer looking for a national installer network preferably with spanish speakers.

any help?

thank you!
S
Web,

May I suggest you delete your above post, and start a new thread. This technical sub-forum should do, or maybe the main Dish Network forum. If you deal with Dish and DirecTV, then maybe the forums for both DBS providers.

Maybe use "Looking for National Installer Network" for the subject.

I'm not the welcome committee, but welcome. Lots of good information here, for both the professional and hobbiest.

SW
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mrdap said:
Where can I go to get detailed information on the different types of dishes, LNB, satellites, and installation configuration, switches and diplexers, etc?
Here are a couple of EKB pages with links to more information: Switch Selector, Satellites and Orbital Slots
Lon.TV
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Well, ATSC 3 is a flop
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TRG
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
At least for a couple more years
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jamieh1
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DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid
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Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
4121 DP World Tour
4195 F1 Channel
4196 MotoGP Channel
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Now live:
4275 Law & Crime
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Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342
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Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
4121 DP World Tour
4195 F1 Channel
4196 MotoGP Channel
It only took them 41 days to announce it
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A new exclusive FAST channel called "DIRECTV Sportside" is testing
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?
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They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.


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I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Jimbo
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.
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That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

Maybe it is time to get rid of the College Football season and just go to a tournament. 128 teams, fill in the bottom end with the lower division. Random draw (except the top 10 teams are in one bucket to draw from in the first and second rounds to avoid OSU v Alabama in the first round), go from 128 to 8. 4 games. Then the 8 remaining teams play 7 games against each other. Then the top two play for the title.
ewindowman
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
navychop
So you have a MBA?
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The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS
dishdude
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI
ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons
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Don't Look Back - Boston
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Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins
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Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans
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Closer to You - Brandi Carlile
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Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.
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Satfaca
No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

4135LH.webp
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.299​
Premium$5.859​
Diesel$7.599​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.
dishstaller
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek
harshness
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.
California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.
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$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC
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The Charter/Spectrum tv app has been updated to make it downloaded with more tv brands. I recently added it to my LG Oled tv.
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Bobby
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This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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long_time_Dish
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
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No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
It's on Prime.
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It's on Prime.
Ah, ok, thanks!
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The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!
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Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
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jsmit86
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.
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