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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
http://www.tvpredictions.com/echoreview122206.htm


Washington, D.C. (December 22, 2006) -- EchoStar's Dish Network has more national HDTV channels than any other TV provider.

But if you're a HD owner who now has cable or DIRECTV, should you switch providers and sign up with Dish?

Here is the TVPredictions.com review.

(Note: I tested the EchoStar ViP 211 for this review; it's a HD receiver, but not a HD DVR.)

Pros
1. Variety

There's no beating the sheer number of HD channels. Since EchoStar offers the 15-channel Voom lineup, there's always something interesting on. From the oddly perverse Ultra HD fashion channel, which features long-legged freaky-looking models doing the "catwalk" on Full Frontal Fashion, to Rave HD, which serves up stunning shots of top musicians in concert, the EchoStar HD lineup is an intriguing eclectic mix. (I never thought European basketball could be so watchable, as seen on the World Sports channel.)


Ever see a "catwalk" in high-def?

In addition to the Voom lineup, it's nice to see such popular channels as National Geographic HD and Food Network HD in high-def.

2. Picture
EchoStar is using the advanced MPEG4 compression technology for local HD channels -- and it's paying off. The primetime network programs look sharp and offer eye-popping detail. (Note: DIRECTV's MPEG4 transmission of local HD channels looks equally as good.) While the quality of the national HD channels sometimes varies, the picture is very good overall and compares favorably to any other provider.

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Cons
1. HDTV Channels Hard to Find

EchoStar's channel lineup is both amazing -- and a maze. The high-def networks are relegated to the end of the on-screen menu and they are sometimes separated by non-HD public access channels and Pay Per View options.

To make matters worse, the HD channels begin with the number 9420. Not exactly convenient. For instance, to watch the World Sports high-def channel, you have to remember that it's "channel 9477" and then punch in the numbers, "9477." DIRECTV's high-def lineup begins with the number "70" and goes to 79. Much easier to navigate and remember.

2. No Voom "Magnet" Channels
While the 15-channel Voom HD lineup has something for everyone, it lacks that true magnet channel that would bring you back time and time again. The channels cater to special interests, which is nice but they won't attract a large following.

Summary:
EchoStar's HD lineup is fun and overflowing with choice. If your cable or satellite operator is still carrying fewer than 10 national HDTV channels, it's worth checking out, particularly if you can get your local HD channels from EchoStar. The satcaster is offering local HD in less than 50 percent of the nation now, but hopes to expand coverage in 2007.

Also important to note: EchoStar said today that its HDTV package will cost $20 a month -- in addition to the basic programming package price.
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Stacy A
Is Dish actually using the MPEG4 compression scheme now? or, are they still using MPEG2 marked under MPEG4?
mdonnelly
I guess Swanni never found the "All HD" guide list.
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Is Dish actually using the MPEG4 compression scheme now? or, are they still using MPEG2 marked under MPEG4?


Locals are true MPEG4 as is Starz HD NFL and I think National Geographic but i could be mistaken on that one.
Poke
I guess Swanni never found the "All HD" guide list.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing! :)
nlk10010
Locals are true MPEG4 as is Starz HD NFL and I think National Geographic but i could be mistaken on that one.

My understanding is it depends on what satellite you're getting the signal off (129 or 61.5).

I think all the locals are MPEG4 but for me (61.5) NFL-HD, Starz-HD and there is a rumour FOOD-HD and HGTV-HD as well are all MPEG4.

And yes, when no one is moving the picture is stunning on those channels (I'm being serious). As soon as you get reasonably fast motion, though, the picture falls apart (blocking, pixelization, whatever you want to call it) due, I'm told, to the starved bitrate. P***es the he!! out of me but I'm sure D* is no better.

=NLK=
Lon.TV
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R
Well, ATSC 3 is a flop
TRG
TRG
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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b4pjoe
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
At least for a couple more years
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TWiT Tech Podcast Network
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jamieh1
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid
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Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
4121 DP World Tour
4195 F1 Channel
4196 MotoGP Channel
K
Now live:
4275 Law & Crime
4364 Military Makeover Channel
K
Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342
K
Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
4121 DP World Tour
4195 F1 Channel
4196 MotoGP Channel
It only took them 41 days to announce it
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A new exclusive FAST channel called "DIRECTV Sportside" is testing
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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cp2k
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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Jimbo
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?
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meStevo
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.


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cp2k
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Jimbo
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.
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That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

Maybe it is time to get rid of the College Football season and just go to a tournament. 128 teams, fill in the bottom end with the lower division. Random draw (except the top 10 teams are in one bucket to draw from in the first and second rounds to avoid OSU v Alabama in the first round), go from 128 to 8. 4 games. Then the 8 remaining teams play 7 games against each other. Then the top two play for the title.
ewindowman
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
navychop
So you have a MBA?
:devilish
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Juan
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS
dishdude
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI
ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons
dishstaller
Don't Look Back - Boston
harshness
Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins
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Bobby
Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans
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Closer to You - Brandi Carlile
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Last reply · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion
Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.
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Satfaca
No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

4135LH.webp
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.299​
Premium$5.859​
Diesel$7.599​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.
dishstaller
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek
harshness
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.
California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.
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osu1991
$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC
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The Charter/Spectrum tv app has been updated to make it downloaded with more tv brands. I recently added it to my LG Oled tv.
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Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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long_time_Dish
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
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Jim5506
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
It's on Prime.
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long_time_Dish
It's on Prime.
Ah, ok, thanks!
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Foxbat
The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!
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S
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
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jsmit86
Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
Most of the 4K action on the 148-xx channels will be on Saturday for College Football. For whatever reason, the guide does not show the games until later in the week. The Fox Big Noon game will show up, and there will usually be a couple of other games, some on Fox, and some on ESPN.

I don't know if you need to be subscribed to locals to get them.
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