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Will Legacy receivers work with a Dish Pro Plus LNB with no DP receiver hooked up??
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Yes.
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have you done this without a DP reciever hooked up??

thanks
boba
have you done this without a DP reciever hooked up??

thanks
I can't answer for Garys but I have a Dishplayer 7100 connected to a DPP Twin it is a Legacy receiver and works with no problem.:)
rockandchelle
What about the other way around. Can you hook a Dish Pro receiver (381) to a Legacy Dish 500?
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Well i finally got the dish mounted and i have a 3900 running perfect on a DPP no swithches,no DP recievers,and no other sats.just 110 and 119.
boba
Birddoggy, Randall A, Smity Whity and especially Claude Greiner you are all hung up on 18 Volts. As I posted earlier the Legacy switches polarity by voltage switching. Legacy uses both 12 and 18 volts so the voltage has nothing to do with a DPP working with Legacy receivers. DP does band stacking so only 18+ volts is used Legacy switches voltage instead of band stacking so a DPP Twin will work with only 12 volts getting to the amplifier.
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Legacy receivers don't require the DP Adapter if two receivers are connected; however, if both receivers are legacy the 3rd satellite input can't be used.

That's how I understand the docs linked to from http://ekb.dbstalk.com/twin.htm
dishcomm
I can't answer for Garys but I have a Dishplayer 7100 connected to a DPP Twin it is a Legacy receiver and works with no problem.:)
That's PLUS technology! To do this at least ONE Dish Pro Receiver must be connected to the DPP LNB.....Legacy EQ connected to a Dish Pro requires a Dish Pro adapter..
dishcomm
What about the other way around. Can you hook a Dish Pro receiver (381) to a Legacy Dish 500?
Yes....No discussion needed there..Any reciver may be connected to a legacy LNB.
dishcomm
Well i finally got the dish mounted and i have a 3900 running perfect on a DPP no swithches,no DP recievers,and no other sats.just 110 and 119.
..That's fascinating..I will have to check my manual..I ahve not atempted to do that before...If you say it works w/o a DP receiver then I'll buy that....
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Birddoggy, Randall A, Smity Whity and especially Claude Greiner you are all hung up on 18 Volts. As I posted earlier the Legacy switches polarity by voltage switching. Legacy uses both 12 and 18 volts so the voltage has nothing to do with a DPP working with Legacy receivers. DP does band stacking so only 18+ volts is used Legacy switches voltage instead of band stacking so a DPP Twin will work with only 12 volts getting to the amplifier.
Now, now, now, I didn't say you were wrong and that it wouldn't work; but more important, I am not hung up on 18 volts.

But while we are on voltage....

Legacy is 13v (odd) and 18v (even), not 12v and 18v as you said twice. So that's probably not a typo.
To switch to the even transponders, the Legacy LNBF must receive at least 15v.
But I'm sure there's a +/- here.:D

DishPro uses DiSEqC 2.0 commands carried on a 22KHz tone.
The DishPro receiver supplies 19v, but the voltage can drop to 10.5v before the DishPro equipment (DP LNBF, DP34 switch) loses power and doesn't function (properly).
Legacy receivers can not (directly) switch a DishPro LNBF using 13v and 18v commands.
- But with a DP Adaptor between the Legacy receiver and the DP34 switch, it can switch between polarities and orbital locations.
Exception: A Legacy receiver can connect directly to a DP Dual to download software upgrades.

DishPro Plus also uses DiSEqC commands carried on a 22KHz tone.
The DishPro/DishPro Plus receiver supplies 19v, but the voltage can drop to 10.5v before the DishPro and/or DishPro Plus equipment (DP LNBF, DPP Twin, etc) loses power and doesn't function (properly).
Legacy receivers can directly connect to a DishPro Plus LNBF or DishPro Plus Twin LNBF using 13v and 18v.
- However, the length is limited, probably because of a power issue, not just a voltage issue.

My previous post listed two Dish documents, one says you can with restrictions, and one says you can't.

Again, I suspect there is an issue with POWER REQUIREMENTS, and NOT A VOLTAGE ISSUE.
Even one of Dish's documents say you may need to add a POWER SUPPLY to a DP34 SWITCH to get enough power to a DPP Twin.
People say you can run the DPP44 without the power inverter. Others say you can't. I believe it also has to do with power requirements and not just the voltage range.

The OP got it to work which is good. Will it always work - I hope so, and it probably will.
If it doesn't, he can buy a 311 for under a $100, especially a remanufactored one.
If I had the equipment, I would not had hesitated to try it either.

It's been said that DiSEqC switches don't work. Well, I replaced a DPP44 with 2 DiSEqC 4x1's, and 4 splitters and my 622 worked.:D
S
Legacy receivers don't require the DP Adapter if two receivers are connected; however, if both receivers are legacy the 3rd satellite input can't be used.

That's how I understand the docs linked to from http://ekb.dbstalk.com/twin.htm
Yes, and it also says "you can not connect the DPP Twin to a DP34 Switch" which contradicts the below Dish document.

But the Dish document at: http://www.solidsignal.tv/dishnetwo...allation_Considerations-DP_Plus_Twin_LNBF.pdf
Says to supply enough power to the DPP Twin and DP34 Switch, you must either connect 2 Receivers, or connect a DPP44 Power Inserter to the DP34 Switch.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Don't Look Back - Boston
harshness
Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins
Bobby
Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans
sdfntx
Closer to You - Brandi Carlile
long_time_Dish
(They Long To Be) Close To You -The Carpenters
Lon.TV
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Well, ATSC 3 is a flop
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TRG
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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b4pjoe
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
At least for a couple more years
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DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid
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Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
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K
Now live:
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K
Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342
K
Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
4121 DP World Tour
4195 F1 Channel
4196 MotoGP Channel
It only took them 41 days to announce it
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A new exclusive FAST channel called "DIRECTV Sportside" is testing
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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cp2k
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?
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meStevo
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.


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I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Jimbo
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.
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That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

Maybe it is time to get rid of the College Football season and just go to a tournament. 128 teams, fill in the bottom end with the lower division. Random draw (except the top 10 teams are in one bucket to draw from in the first and second rounds to avoid OSU v Alabama in the first round), go from 128 to 8. 4 games. Then the 8 remaining teams play 7 games against each other. Then the top two play for the title.
ewindowman
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
navychop
So you have a MBA?
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Juan
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS
dishdude
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI
ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.
J
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Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.
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Satfaca
No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

4135LH.webp
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.299​
Premium$5.859​
Diesel$7.599​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.
dishstaller
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek
harshness
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.
California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.
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osu1991
$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC