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Mahaffey
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I love my Dish..really I do. But they have got to get their stuff straight so far as billing.

I have had to call them at least 10 times (and this in itself is no fun, but that's for another post) to straighten out billing errors. Dumb ones. Like continuing to be charged for the "Programming access fee" when I have had my phone line hooked up since day 3. I have a jack especially put in just for the dish box. Nothing else. An $89.00 phone jack, and they still cannot recognize it. I have run the phone test connection feature until I can't see straight, I have done the "dial out" for them. They have records of all the tests in the Tech support system. I don't know why I have to call them every month and go over this again to get the fee taken off.

Then, there is a mysterious charge for $23.98 on my account that had a zero balance since the day after I paid them $132.11 for my first two month's service. After cancelling HBO before the third month, it had a -$13.08 balance. Now all of a sudden it is showing the charges for the next month, PLUS a carryover from the previous bill. C'mon.

I called again and had to spend another half hour getting that straight. Then she told me the charge for the phone line not being connected was on there. Um, no. So off I go to Tech support again. That nightmare lasted 10 minutes just on hold and pushing 1 or 2 or whatever going through the system to get to them. Tech support says "yea, we see the phone line hooked up. Don't know what billing's problem is." Here, we'll send a new box and check yours when it comes in."

So for the moment at least I have everything settled. My monthly bill is where it should be... $60.97(minus the $10.00/month for the rebate that I sent the forms in for two months ago and they still have not recieved. Another story for another post.) But we shall see what happens next month. I should have known better. When I got this service, I was told by the installers that they could only guarentee a window of 3 months. So I will be getting cable again in the spring. Sad, really. Because I love the reception and channels with Dish. And, the price is definately not bad considering what I was paying for cable/internet.

Thanks for listeneing...I just had to rant somewhere. :D Maybe someone here has a suggestion on how to deal with the billing department to get this resolved? Oh, and does anyone have a number or some way to get ahold of the "rebate" department so I can find out what the heck happend to my forms? Wow..talk about left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing...!sadroll
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Billing errors are a regular feature, it takes me about 10 minutes to work out my bill each month.
Club dish is the best, referrals don't show up, or do and then vanish... etc etc...
Mahaffey
Yea, that's the problem I am having also. My referral paperwork still hasn't shown up. I was referred by someone else and got the $10.00/mo off deal.
Jim5506
CSRs and Techs at Dish have no vested interest in charging you more than necessary. Charlie does not circle the phone bank encouraging overbilling. In fact it probably counts against them if errors are found and noted by supervisors.
Claude Greiner
As a dealer for 9 years with Dish I have never seen an actual billing error, there is always a reason for every charge.

With that said, customers are issued credits for billing errors all the time because simply do not understand their bill. Its easier to give the customer a credit for something they are not entitled to, than argue with them over it and have the customer disconnect thinking they where over charged.

$4.99 access fees are not billing errors, its a result of the receivers not being connected to a phone line. If the receiver is connected to a phone line, then there is possibly a bad receiver or too much static on the phone line preventing a good connection.

I have seen bogus PPV charges, but I think thats due to a hacker with a duplicate smart card number downloading PPV purchases on their hacked receiver.

However there is an explaination for more of the bogus PPV!

The last thing Dish wants to do is over bill customers, they can underpay the dealers but we have no choice but to put up with it, but customers can always switch providers.
Mahaffey
<replies inline and colored red> sorry, I thought it would be easier to see my replies and your post...


As a dealer for 9 years with Dish I have never seen an actual billing error, there is always a reason for every charge.

With that said, customers are issued credits for billing errors all the time because simply do not understand their bill. Its easier to give the customer a credit for something they are not entitled to, than argue with them over it and have the customer disconnect thinking they where over charged.

Wrong. In my case. They continued to charge the Programming access fee for the phone line, and "neglected" to get it fixed to the point that it would not happen again next month. Even they will go spacey sometimes. Just sitting there staring at the computer screen and saying "well how did that get thee" or "that charge isn't even supposed to be over here" and on and on like that. They do not know what is going on within the billing computers system. That's just my guess..as I do not work there..but when you dont know what is going on with the bill, it would seem to follow that you don't know what is going on with the person/thing that produces that bill.

$4.99 access fees are not billing errors, its a result of the receivers not being connected to a phone line. If the receiver is connected to a phone line, then there is possibly a bad receiver or too much static on the phone line preventing a good connection.

I had one tech lady tell me that the reason the line wasn't showing up is because I have a 1-900 number block on my phone. I laughed and said I am not taking that block off my phone. I have a young son and I don't want to give him the opportunity or temptation. Besides, I shouldnt have to.

Yes, they did reluctanly finally agree to send me a new box and test the old one. And pay to have it shipped. That's nice of them.

I have seen bogus PPV charges, but I think thats due to a hacker with a duplicate smart card number downloading PPV purchases on their hacked receiver.

However there is an explaination for more of the bogus PPV!

The last thing Dish wants to do is over bill customers, they can underpay the dealers but we have no choice but to put up with it, but customers can always switch providers.

Or, they could hire better quality of people at the Tech Support level. Or train them better. It always feels like they are throwing a book at you.

Ok, I am finished. Sorry that I posted so long but there was a lot of stuff I wanted to answer to. Like I said, I won't have Dish for much longer anyway...whether I like them or not. Soon as the leaves turn I will start losing piccture quality and that's the day I will have to make the call to change back to Comcast. :(
Lon.TV
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Well, ATSC 3 is a flop
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TRG
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
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b4pjoe
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety. :mad:
At least for a couple more years
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jamieh1
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DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid
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Now live:
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Now live:
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Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342
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Now live:
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It only took them 41 days to announce it
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A new exclusive FAST channel called "DIRECTV Sportside" is testing
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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cp2k
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
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Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.
Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?
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meStevo
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.


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cp2k
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Jimbo
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.
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That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

Maybe it is time to get rid of the College Football season and just go to a tournament. 128 teams, fill in the bottom end with the lower division. Random draw (except the top 10 teams are in one bucket to draw from in the first and second rounds to avoid OSU v Alabama in the first round), go from 128 to 8. 4 games. Then the 8 remaining teams play 7 games against each other. Then the top two play for the title.
ewindowman
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
navychop
So you have a MBA?
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Juan
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS
dishdude
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI
ERSanders
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!
Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons
dishstaller
Don't Look Back - Boston
harshness
Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins
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Bobby
Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans
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Closer to You - Brandi Carlile
J
Last reply · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion
Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.
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Satfaca
No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

4135LH.webp
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.299​
Premium$5.859​
Diesel$7.599​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.
dishstaller
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek
harshness
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.
California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.
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osu1991
$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC