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Sparkman

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Last reply Dec 29, 2006 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

As of today, I'm now a former E* Customer

Started with them 7/1/98, so 8 1/2 years. 2 years ago I took the bulk of my programming to Comcast because Comcast SportsNet Chicago was our new RSN and only Comcast had the HD version. Kept my Distant NBC & CBS & supers active with E* on only 1 receiver, an 811, which continued to be used as my OTA as well. Also kept the E* original HD package for awhile, but Comcast added everything that E* had except the HDNets, & I wasn't really wathcing those, so I cancelled that. Not that the Distants are gone, I was down to only the supers, @ $11.99 for 5 channels. Comcast is having their annual rate hike, but E* still does not have the HD-RSN's, so I couldn't justify
the $11.99 expense. The 811 is still working for my OTA channels & I can get NASA & CCTV for free if I ever want to watch anything there. Comcast is adding Versus/Golf HD 1/4, now would just like Ntl Geo & U HD.

It was very easy to cancel, they tried a couple of options, but realized they couldn't offer the main channel I have an interest in. I had a great run there and will consider going back again someday, but for now Comcast is a better fit.

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navychop

Dec 28, 2006

Thanks on the HD on demand from cable.

HD is still a minority, but they are the ones most likely to order something in such a fashion. So even a 3-6 Mbps broadband connection will not "real time" a 19.4 Mbps HD signal- or even one at 12. So I guess for the foreseeable future, cable wins this one.

riffjim4069

Dec 28, 2006

navychop said:
HD is still a minority, but they are the ones most likely to order something in such a fashion.

I've had an HDTV since 2002 and many cable and satellite providers are still setting the HD receiver to 480p and connecting them to a 1080p digital set using component cables. Yep, and just last week my parents were showing me their new Samsung Plasma and, after I almost barfed, I set the box to output 1080i (it was set to 480p) and hooked it up using HDMI. I set it on DiscoveryHD and "Wow" was all I heard. The funny story is I did the exact same thing to their Samsung LCD when I was visiting last year.

David Dietzel

Dec 29, 2006

I had Comcast while in Ontario, Kalifornia back seven years ago. Their customer service was the worst on the planet and their staff was trained for maximum arrogance and distain for the customer.

I had Charter cable in Rancho Cucamonga, Kalifornia for 30 days. Crappy SD picture quality, soft HD compared to Dish, only a handful of HD channels, slow piece of sh*t HD-DVR by Scientific-Atlanta, ugly channel guide and arrogant customer service reps; and, the after-new-sub-special-pricing-ends cost was going to be nearly $30/month more than Dish. Cable prices have risen at triple the rate of inflation over the past ten years.

Maybe you'll have a better experience with Comcast in your area -- cable does vary by locale and a few cities actually do have very good cable content and service.

I'm not pleased with the Dish increase in cost for Platinum, but even with the rise Dish is a far bretter option for me. The 622 is incredible compared to the SA unit I had with Chater.

Friend

Dec 29, 2006

riffjim4069 said:
I've had an HDTV since 2002 and many cable and satellite providers are still setting the HD receiver to 480p and connecting them to a 1080p digital set using component cables. Yep, and just last week my parents were showing me their new Samsung Plasma and, after I almost barfed, I set the box to output 1080i (it was set to 480p) and hooked it up using HDMI. I set it on DiscoveryHD and "Wow" was all I heard. The funny story is I did the exact same thing to their Samsung LCD when I was visiting last year.

I don't mind them using component, even at home I use component as I like color saturation more on ananlog output then digital output ( I do have DVI input). I do agree with you for them not setting 622 on 1080i though.

minnow

Dec 29, 2006

In the old days, satellite was the place to go as cable just plain sucked everywhere. Now in many locales, Cable is the one to beat. Dish has fallen behind on many issues. But having said that, I want Dish to get better because without the Satellite companies, cable would still be the crap provider it was 10 years ago. As consumers we need BOTH providers to prosper to keep each other "honest" so to speak.
Personally, I can't believe how far out local TWC has come as far as content and picture quality since I went with Dish in 1998. It's just light years ahead of what they offered then. And for the next two years, TWC is at least $30 dollars a month cheaper providing me internet, cable and telephone than what I was paying for all three when Dish was the main supplier of my television viewing.

riffjim4069

Dec 29, 2006

Great points minnow...I'm not sure what everyone is paying for their E* service, but I've had no problem asking for, and receiving, programming discounts from Dish Network. I would gladly pay a premium to keep E* because of their 622, VOOM HD, and superior picture quility. Ok, now that superior picture quality is a thing of the past...and the local Cable Co. is offering their digital cable w/HBO, Showtime, and Starz for $29.95 for 12 months, they why would E* expect to retain me as a customer without matching the offer being made by Cable which, in my opinion, is 12 months of DishHD Platinum for $49.99? While I'm not cable fan, I was very surprised how much the local cable company's offerings have improved the past couple of years: On Demand was pretty slick, and they are prepared to offering significant saving on video, broadband, voice or all three.

OoTLink

Dec 29, 2006

I'm gonna go sit on my big brown leather couch, fart, turn on the big screen TV, get drunk with a few beers, and watch a few jackasses run across the screen and beat each other up over a piece of inflated plastic.

Oh yeah, I'm going to pay $140 and take it in the rear with no vaseline either! EVERY MONTH! SWEEEEET!

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Linus Tech Tips

9 minutes ago · posted in Linus Tech Tips

Noob POV Build with Linus from LTT

Time for another AWESOME video from Linus Tech Tips!

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Last reply 29 minutes ago · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Jensen Huang, NVIDIA, and the Alleged Foreign Spy #shorts

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

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Direct YouTube Link - Jensen Huang, NVIDIA, and the Alleged Foreign Spy #shorts
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed

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Redbullsnation

29 minutes ago

Simping never works

Lon.TV

Last reply 52 minutes ago · posted in Lon.TV

Broadcasters To Encrypt Emergency Messages with DRM..

Time for another AWESOME video from Lon Seidman of LON.TV!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dViecB76yco

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Redbullsnation

Today at 12:06 PM

Well, ATSC 3 is a flop

TRG

57 minutes ago

So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety.

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b4pjoe

52 minutes ago

TRG said:
So in other words, corporate greed is more important than public safety.

At least for a couple more years

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Today at 2:22 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

MacBreak Weekly 1050

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jamieh1

Last reply Today at 2:10 PM · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum

FAST Channels added to DIRECTV Stream/Internet

DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid

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KyL416

Sep 9, 2026

Now live:
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KyL416

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Now live:
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KyL416

Oct 6, 2026

Game Show Central is now live on channel 4342

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KyL416

Oct 20, 2026

KyL416 said:
Now live:
4101 Yahoo! Sports Network
4121 DP World Tour
4195 F1 Channel
4196 MotoGP Channel

It only took them 41 days to announce it

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KyL416

Oct 29, 2026

Now testing:
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KyL416

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A new exclusive FAST channel called "DIRECTV Sportside" is testing

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Ramy

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 1:56 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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cp2k

Yesterday at 1:30 PM

Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 2:00 PM

cp2k said:
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?

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meStevo

Yesterday at 4:38 PM

Jimbo said:
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.

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osu1991

Yesterday at 9:28 PM

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cp2k

Yesterday at 9:56 PM

I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 10:23 PM

cp2k said:
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.

Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.

osu1991

Yesterday at 11:03 PM

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Yespage

Today at 1:56 PM

meStevo said:
Surprised you haven't made this claim yet.

View: https://x.com/RedditCFB/status/2119843536439005342?a=pI0NYBONwLj4vjRrQWo&s=20

That'd be more than the FA Cup! Over 700 teams. It is also the most glorious tournament in the world.

Maybe it is time to get rid of the College Football season and just go to a tournament. 128 teams, fill in the bottom end with the lower division. Random draw (except the top 10 teams are in one bucket to draw from in the first and second rounds to avoid OSU v Alabama in the first round), go from 128 to 8. 4 games. Then the 8 remaining teams play 7 games against each other. Then the top two play for the title.

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ewindowman

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 12:47 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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ERSanders

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The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

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Today at 11:09 AM

So you have a MBA?
:devilish

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Juan

Today at 11:35 AM

ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

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dishdude

Today at 11:35 AM

Juan said:
I thought it was when Bill Gates stole DOS

And Steve Jobs stole the mouse and GUI

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ERSanders

Today at 12:47 PM

ERSanders said:
The short term financial thinking by MBAs is what killed Xerox. Ask me how I know!

Actually I survived despite them for 31 years and two expait assignments. But the quest for the current quarter's profits doomed long term vision, planning and actions.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 11:50 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Working My Way Back To You - The Four Seasons

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Don't Look Back - Boston

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Please Come to Boston - Dave Loggins

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Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and the Americans

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juventusbrown

Last reply Today at 11:33 AM · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion

40w transponder

Hi guys, is anyone getting any quality on transponder 4135 L 30000 I'm not getting any quality few weeks now.

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Satfaca

Today at 11:33 AM

No problem here (in central Europe) with a 10-footer. Do note that 9.4 dB required for the lock.
The mod is DVB-S2 8PSK with FEC 5/6.

dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 10:44 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby

Yesterday at 11:04 AM

Regular$5.299
Premium$5.859
Diesel$7.599
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Yesterday at 4:41 PM

Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Crude (combined pricing) is around $90/barrel now, so prices should have, at least, fallen in step with the crude futures.

dishstaller

Today at 8:19 AM

harshness said:
Finally! Some big movement in California diesel pricing (and no, there is no such beastie as a diesel "winter formula").

Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere. Bobby just posted $7.59/gal, locally it is $5.59.....that's two bucks difference. :eeek

harshness

Today at 10:25 AM

dishstaller said:
Just curious here.....then why is diesel so much higher out there than it is elsewhere.

California has a ~93¢ per gallon consumer tax rate on automotive diesel, along with significantly higher refinement standards.

The fact that consumers can only buy some new full-sized truck models and a couple of vans with diesel power makes the fuel an odd duck in refinery priorities.

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osu1991

Today at 10:44 AM

$3.50-$3.52 around Tulsa and $3.45 in OKC

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