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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
I have recently purchased a new HDTV set and ordered the DirecTV HD package, unfortunately I have a 4LNB only dish and to be able to get locals I must upgrade to a 5LNB one, the installers came today and told my mom ( I wasn't home) that it was impossible to install the new antenna and suggested installing an OTA antenna to pick up local channels in HD, However I do not want to do that and I really want to get my bigger dish up there.

They said there's not enough space on the roof edge where the current antenna is placed to hold the stand of the new one and asked if we wanted to install it there I needed to sign up a paper saying I take all security risks, I of course refused to do this ( at this point I was with them over the phone)

After calling DirecTV later on the rep told me DirecTV has some type of poles or stands that can be placed on the backyard floor to install the dish there, she also told me there's some tripods that can be used on those situations and that she was clueless as to why the installers didn't suggest that instead of the OTA alternative.

Do you guys know how big are those poles/tripods and how much they cost? is the reception on those as good as having them on the roof? is it high enough to pick up the satellite signal with no trouble?

Thanks in advance for any help you could give me.
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charper1 I'm not sure I understand, There's no problems with the current dish, and I can receive all signals (except locals on HD) with no problem, plain and simple my problem is that they are unable to find a spot on my roof to secure the 5LNB dish properly so I need an alternate place to the rooftop, for example a pole or Tripod.

I need to find out if those are really available from DirecTV, if a DirecTV installer would get it installed for me and how much they cost. Again thanks!
charper1
Thats why I was asking if you could post a photo. When you get the new dish the current one can come down. Also, with as much space a roof or chimney, etc has, there should be plenty of room to install without a post. Unless you just happen to be in a very odd need.

DirecTV is not going to do the install, they are contracted out to a local/regional company. The 5 LNB dish setup, especially in SoFla, does not need to be on a tripod. These are 2" galvanized steel pipes sunk into concrete plumb/level.

Post installs are generally done by the contractor but they can vary in quality based on the contractor so its hard to guess who will do what and how unless you can find some other user that has the same thing already and I think the should really be done by the user on the front end so you know what you are getting and its ready to go when the guy gets there. Some companies frown about doing them over a certain height. Some hate doing them altogether.

There are a few FL installers that post here so maybe one will read your post and offer to help out.
charper1
Familiar with the area, see tons of houses with shingles; assumed tiles would have been mentioned up front. I would never assume that although you are likely correct. Here in AZ I would would always assume tile, BUT I still see the 3 & 5 LNB dishes mounted on the roof and chimney.

I am sure either way he will likely get a post but probably should get it installed on his own in the same general area of the PhaseIII; correct?
grydlok
Familiar with the area, see tons of houses with shingles; assumed tiles would have been mentioned up front. I would never assume that although you are likely correct. Here in AZ I would would always assume tile, BUT I still see the 3 & 5 LNB dishes mounted on the roof and chimney.

I am sure either way he will likely get a post but probably should get it installed on his own in the same general area of the PhaseIII; correct?

Correct
Ely
Ely
Guys sorry for the confusion, yes I have a tile roof, after talking with DirecTV again they are coming next Thursday supposedly ready to install the antenna on a post. the representative told me it would cost me around $40 dollars to get the work done, I hope she was correct, that's not too bad I was expecting it would cost me a lot more.
johnml
I live in Ft. Lauderdale and for every 100 satellite dishes I see, 99% are mounted on the fascia boards. The installer wanted to install my AT9 the same way, but with my old 3LNB only two screws were into the board so I knew it would be even worse with the AT9. I installed a galvanised pole and havent lost my signal yet ( even with the summer monsoons we get ) At least here in south Florida, the local installer (Mastec) mounts to the fascia board. Once it's up, they dont care.
dishcomm
charper1 I'm not sure I understand, There's no problems with the current dish, and I can receive all signals (except locals on HD) with no problem, plain and simple my problem is that they are unable to find a spot on my roof to secure the 5LNB dish properly so I need an alternate place to the rooftop, for example a pole or Tripod.

I need to find out if those are really available from DirecTV, if a DirecTV installer would get it installed for me and how much they cost. Again thanks!
I'd like to se a photo of the roof myself..I am familiar with FL style architecture and many homes have "hip and Valley" type roofs...The 5 linb dish requires the use of support struts to aid in wind load..A hip roof corner may interfere with the proper installation of the struts..Also if the roof pitch is very steep and it necesary to climb out onto the roof to install the dish it becomes a safety issue. Why the tech didn't suggest a pole mount is another issue you did not cover..Please elaborate and state all details of the experience so we can better assist you.
dishcomm
Thats why I was asking if you could post a photo. When you get the new dish the current one can come down. Also, with as much space a roof or chimney, etc has, there should be plenty of room to install without a post. Unless you just happen to be in a very odd need.

DirecTV is not going to do the install, they are contracted out to a local/regional company. The 5 LNB dish setup, especially in SoFla, does not need to be on a tripod. These are 2" galvanized steel pipes sunk into concrete plumb/level.

Post installs are generally done by the contractor but they can vary in quality based on the contractor so its hard to guess who will do what and how unless you can find some other user that has the same thing already and I think the should really be done by the user on the front end so you know what you are getting and its ready to go when the guy gets there. Some companies frown about doing them over a certain height. Some hate doing them altogether.

There are a few FL installers that post here so maybe one will read your post and offer to help out.
DTV isn't going to do the install? Why not?....Doesn't DTV have any installers in So FL?.....Mastec?...What gives..
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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You Look Like You Love Me - Ella Langley
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See Me Feel Me - The Who
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Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band
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TAKE IT As It Comes-The Doors
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
jamieh1
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
The new curated multiview is now live.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.
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K
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
b4pjoe
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.
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It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
How soon will it be available on Apple TV? Thanks
I WANT MORE
But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.
It's on my Air's.
b4pjoe
It's on my Air's.
The post read: "currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen". It didn't mention the Air. I suppose when it said Geminis it meant both but I had no way of knowing that.
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Hopefully soon for fire stick too
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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dishdude
They didn't sell many, they were pricey and not out long. Quickly got replaced by the Hopper.
T
They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.
Former member 208119
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke :biggrin
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What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $4.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Jimbo
What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
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Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
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I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
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I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
Jimbo
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
You get an email every month to let you know they are billing you for the next month.
Foxbat
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
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Peter Parker
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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bookworm370
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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Bobby
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
This has been an ongoing issue. A fix is coming, probably in the next software version.
Foxbat
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
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dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
dishstaller
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.
harshness
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.
On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.
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Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
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A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic),
Both non-ethanol and prem run about the same....buck more. When we were up in TN it was a buck more up there as well.
jokeworm
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
Ok, I'm bored .... actually - to be more precise - I'm bored of eating the same rotation of 9 or 10 meals that are currently my "go-to" meals. My wife works the long hours - I work from home as and when i feel like it ... which means i generally do most of the cooking ... and so by default - i also make out the shopping list ...

We cook at home 5 or even 6 nights a week - but we always seem to fall back on the same old tried and tested "quick and easy but tastes ok" meals. Week in week out.

Pot Roast - mash and Peas.
Spaghetti
Chicken Pasta in cheese sauce.
Curry & rice
(these are some of mine)

Now it's not that I'm not adventurous in the kitchen ... I'll try anything once or twice ... but we all do it. Unless your name is Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray .. we all eventually fall back on our 8-10 favorite "meals"

So i thought - if we shared some of our own go-to meals with each other ... we might be able to add a few "new" ones to our own arsenal of meals.

So again - I ask you ...

What's for dinner tonight ?

Please give me something new to add to my rotation ... its our weekly shop tomorrow - so i want to pull together a few idea's and try and eat a meal each day next week that I've never had before .. or at least something that is not on my current "go-to" meal plan.

What meal do you always seem to fall back on in your house ? Maybe its something that I've never tried or not had in a while. I need inspiration !! I've got a blank shopping list in front of me - and nothing sounds good .. HELP !
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Beef and vegetable stew with buttermilk biscuits. Water.
It seemed appropriate on an unusually cold and wet evening in New Mexico.
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Chili Cheesebugers, Tater Tots.
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I made shrimp parmesan with spaghetti and a salad.
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venison lasagna
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Smoked some salmon on the grill while enjoying some Blue Moon beer. Kinda cool tonight so I fired up the heaters. Here in FL, we fire up heaters once the temps get below 60 :cool As for the salmon, I seared them first, then flipped them off to the side not over the coals and brushed on some lemon pepper marinade followed by some salmon seasoning. Threw some hickory chips on the coals and then closed the vents to about 10% airflow. Yum.
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osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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Servant's problem.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
harshness
The EV company to watch out for is SAIC. They seem likely to take over Government Motors at some point.

GM originally struck a JV deal with SAIC to gain access to China. Now SAIC has taken China back with the substantial library of technology GM shared and they're looking to export to Mexico, South America, the Middle East, and Asia-Pacific.
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