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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This topic has been discussed in many different threads, but I decided to start a new one because I'm taking a different track in trying to solve the problem.

In my area of southeastern VA, we have one DT-OTA station that has been giving reception problems to many people with different OTA receivers and including myself when using the 622. I also have a ATSC tuner in a Mits LCD, which does not have any problem in handling the signal from this station.

The 622 image is pixelated, sound is garbled and frequently, the "Loss of OTA Signal" error message pops up on the screen. Other threads gave me a clue about padding down the signal to eliminate this problem, so I inserted a switchable attenuator in-line to the 622 and found I had to insert 21 dB of attenuation before the problem disappeared, but then my weaker stations were flaky. This requires changing the attenuation when switching channels, not a great situation for unattended recordings.

I know some people have deduced this problem is caused my multipath errors or signal overload, but in my case, analog stations on either side of the DT station show no signs of multipath errors and in fact one of them is delivered from the same tower as the problem DT station. Also, the problem station is not the strongest in the area.

I'm thinking that this problem is not really connected to "loss of signal" rather caused by "loss of sync." Also, the problem isn't caused by multipath errors, but with some other signal condition that affects the 622 and not other tuners.

I'm hoping there will be some person on this list that might shed some light on what other signal conditions might cause this problem where inserting attenuation pads takes care of the situation. Something along the lines of signal non-linearities such as spikes?
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barrysb,
I live in VA Beach and I'm having the same problem with WAVY 10. A Dish installer was at my house today and he told me that they have tried everything to remedy the problem in the area, but it is no use because the actual problem is the signal that WAVY is sending out. He said it will never be fixed until WAVY decides to do something about it. If you have any updates please post. I'm upset that the channel that I watch the most is having problems.
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barrysb,
I live in VA Beach and I'm having the same problem with WAVY 10. A Dish installer was at my house today and he told me that they have tried everything to remedy the problem in the area, but it is no use because the actual problem is the signal that WAVY is sending out. He said it will never be fixed until WAVY decides to do something about it. If you have any updates please post. I'm upset that the channel that I watch the most is having problems.

I've spent a lot of time the past week in the AVS Forum communicating with the Director of Engineering at WAVY-DT. He will not unilaterally take any action to resolve the problem at his end, primarily because his test equipment indicates their signal is compliant with the ATSC requirements. He will work with engineers at Dish to try and help them find out why the 622 cannot handle this signal. I thought I had a pretty good clue as to what might be happening in the receiver but now I'm not too sure. The culprit might even be a second signal but I haven't been able to identify any source.

In the mean time, you could try my work-around of inserting a large amount of attenuation in the antenna feed to the 622. Here's a source
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I've spent a lot of time the past week in the AVS Forum communicating with the Director of Engineering at WAVY-DT. He will not unilaterally take any action to resolve the problem at his end, primarily because his test equipment indicates their signal is compliant with the ATSC requirements. He will work with engineers at Dish to try and help them find out why the 622 cannot handle this signal. I thought I had a pretty good clue as to what might be happening in the receiver but now I'm not too sure. The culprit might even be a second signal but I haven't been able to identify any source.

In the mean time, you could try my work-around of inserting a large amount of attenuation in the antenna feed to the 622. Here's a source

Barrysb,
My fixed attenuator was too "iffy" for getting a signal for an extended period without breakups, so I bought the variable attenuator from antennasdirect.com that you suggested. So far, so good. I have set WAVY-10 to about 67 signal strength and no breakups yet :) Are you still having success? Any new updates from the chief engineer at WAVY-10? Thanks.
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Barrysb,
My fixed attenuator was too "iffy" for getting a signal for an extended period without breakups, so I bought the variable attenuator from antennasdirect.com that you suggested. So far, so good. I have set WAVY-10 to about 67 signal strength and no breakups yet :) Are you still having success? Any new updates from the chief engineer at WAVY-10? Thanks.

I'm still having success with receiving WAVY-DT at about 68-72 with attenuation. I've tried removing my preamp to see if it was affecting this problem. It was not, except I have to use a different amount of attenuation to stabilize WAVY.

Have not had any recent communication with WAVY's CE. I saw your post in the AVS thread asking for an update, but with no response. I guess there's nothing new to report. The last info I've seen is a post where the CE acknowledged OK'ing an expenditure to repair an old backup exciter to be used when updating the one on-line.
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L4.01 software seems to have fixed OTA problems for KSFX FOX 27 and KOLR CBS 10 in Springfield MO. I will be checking further but is looking good now. I hope dish knows how they fixed this and does the same for the 942 as it is still messed up.
ScottChez
Wow, had troubles with two DTV stations 40 miles away. Just put a Rat Shack RF blocker on right before the Ant Plug in and WOW

They come in great now. I think I found the suggestion in this thread somewhere. Who ever had it, thanks.
boy921
Fox30 Kcvu

After 3 months plus, KCVU got their transmitter problems fixed. They are back at full power and without flaw. All attenuators were removed from all ViP receivers. They obviously got the darn Axcera exciter replaced or fixed. One thing is for sure, L403 was working worse with reception shortly after it downloaded, so can't say that L403 fixed the problem.
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After 3 months plus, KCVU got their transmitter problems fixed. They are back at full power and without flaw. All attenuators were removed from all ViP receivers. They obviously got the darn Axcera exciter replaced or fixed. One thing is for sure, L403 was working worse with reception shortly after it downloaded, so can't say that L403 fixed the problem.

It's amazing that whatever the condition was, it as fixed either by 622 software revision (my case) or exciter mod (your case).
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Can't help but wonder if a worker overlooked checking the harness. I rarely ride a roller coaster anymore but when I do I check the harness myself pretty aggressively.
Can't imagine what the son is going through.

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Jimbo
Back on the Goliath Roller Coaster ... I'm interested to find more details as well ...
Like where on the track did this happen (somewhere I read that it was on the climb up the top), which is impossible ...

They really need to take that ride and add at the very least, seatbelts ...

The Park is opening back up on Friday, the ride will Not be opening ... personally, I would keep it closed until different type of restraints can be designed and installed (over the winter).

I find it hard to believe that this ride is even allowed to be running with the restraints that exist at the moment, there are other rides that use the same type and they have been shut down across the country.

You got to believe that every ride has at least 2 types of restraint systems in place.

I wonder what and when we will hear from the Manufacturer ... and whatever governing bodies control these ...

Just think, this is a Major Amusement Park .... I would not have any problem getting on the Roller Coasters I have rode ...

Imagine what these County Fairs and others like them, I would not be caught Dead on one of them ... they get put up and tore down every other week, where is the safety for those rides ... No Thank You.
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dishstaller
Imagine what these County Fairs and others like them, I would not be caught Dead on one of them ... they get put up and tore down every other week, where is the safety for those rides ... No Thank You.
The first roller coaster I ever road was one of those. I was terrified but I was with my friends and didn't want to wuss out. While in line I kept looking at the guys running the ride.....few teeth, not that bright looking....I just KNEW my life was over.
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navychop
I would not be caught Dead on one of them

Yet IF you were on one, you might be caught dead.
dishstaller
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
Jimbo
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
It makes sense, however, I would want more types of restraints, so if one doesn't work, the other does ... the restraints coming over the shoulder I would have expected ... with a Seat belt as last resort.

Fwiw, I inquired with what they use on Coasters at Cedar Point, various Coasters, different restraints according to what the car and track requires ...

NONE of the Coasters at CP use THAT particular system :)
I'm glad to see ...
TheRatPatrol
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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TheRatPatrol
Wait, Tony is the director now? Apologies, I stopped watching a while ago.
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Jimbo
Wait, Tony is the director now? Apologies, I stopped watching a while ago.
Was Gibbs still there when you quit watching ?
If so, A Lot has happened ....

It's been pretty good all along , once you get use to Gibbs being gone.
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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Last reply · posted in FTA Receiver / Equipment Support
I just received 6 receiver 2 port mini Multiswitch and it work great, no external power need it, and you can connect 6 receiver instead of 4 on most Mini Multiswitches... If anyone is interested in where they can get one PM me....
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Titanium
Have you tested using external power? Over the years, have found unpowered polarity switching to be unreliable. Especially problematic when used with DiSEqC motors or switch stacking.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
I bought the fixed color version of these bulbs for my store several years ago...work great and no more replacing ballast. Finally had one go out and when I went back to Amazon I saw that now they come in selectable versions so no more guess work as to what color light would do best in a certain area. They are now double OR single ended...used to be strictly one way or the other. If any of you are looking at replacing the old style 4 or 8 ft bulbs, you might want to give these a try. The 8 footers are BRIGHT. I put 5 in my shooting/target shed and you can get a decent tan if you are in there long enough.

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Foxbat
When we re-lamped my in-Laws' house for sale last year, we were able to get all the Edison bulbs and a few fixtures with switch-selectable Color Temperature. We tried a few and settled on 3000°K as the best fit for the house. Matching the lighting in all the rooms made for an inviting experience. The Shop was the only place that we went with 4000°K for the LED 4' fixtures.

The house was sold within a month of going on the market, so we must have done something right.

The other advantage is if the new owners decide that they prefer a warmer light, they can unscrew the bulbs (I think it was close to 70 bulbs) and set them to the 2500K/2700K settings.

I'll have to check these out. Thanks!
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Scott Greczkowski
Just doing a big security update on the server, may slow down then again it may not. Just wanted to warn you guys. :D
Scott Greczkowski
Ok the update is complete. :)
Foxbat
Scott, I was having major issues getting connected around noon ET. Looks fine now. I captured a Safari session that was showing high CPU utilization in the Rendering of the page, like 90+%. I have a JSON file I created that I could share.
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Scott Greczkowski
Been using the site at that time and saw no issues. A quick look at the logs shows nothing strange.
Foxbat
Yeah. It's probably something going on with the MacBook as my iPhone has been pretty snappy.
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Foxbat
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
I've saved a boatload of money!
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
Foxbat
The only thing I can see that is compelling is the AV1 decoding done in the A19's hardware instead of the current ATV4K's processor.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
ppappas
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
On Tuesday, I recorded the first episodes of the new season's NCIS shows on CBS (Dish provided, not OTA). The new New York series and Origins will both do Auto Skip, but the original, now season 24 does not. What's stranger, when I do a search for NCIS, Origins and New York show the current recording and the next episode it will record, but the original show only shows the current recording and some other channel showing the very first episode of season one. It makes no sense. When I set up the timers, I was able to use search for Origins and New York, but for the original, I had to scroll ahead in the guide until last Tuesday when the show was airing. Then set the timer from there. You can see its timer type is DVR where the other two are Seek. What am I missing?
Thanks!
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Nebugeater
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF
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Jimbo
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF
IF you were referring to my post ...
Thats why I do all my Streaming Commercial FREE.
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Bobby
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF
And there is a difference between fast forward and skip forwad....
tanman
With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.
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Cold Irons
With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.
Yep. We do this all the time, but we use the 30-sec skip forward button until the red kangaroo shows up. Love this feature.
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