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mrsat1
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Well my lucky streak of perfect dish receiver 622 has come to an end. Woke up this morning and found no signal from the hdmi cable. Connected component cables to my samsung 56" then checked the hdmi status and it verified an error code 256 and it didn't recognize my samsung set. So no output from the hdmi is
working. So tech support is sending me a replacement. Question.. is the replacement (probably) a refurb and does the receiver have a updated hdmi pin
connector than the earlier versions? Or will I have a problem like this again....
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Does your HDMI cable hang in the 622 jack or do you have it tied up to keep all tension off the jack?
B
Re: cable quality, you hit it on the head. The only possible difference I can speculate for a digital (HDMI) connection might be that in cases of cheap cables with minimal shielding, there is a possibility that if the cable is used in a very strong EMI field that the data could be corrupted enough to be seen on the display, but that has to be an extremely remote possibility. In that case you'd probably have other problems with the equipment caused by that interference. Perhaps a very long HDMI cable with minimal shielding might run close enough to an EMI source and pick-up enough interference (??) Another thought might be the lesser durability of the cable due to cheaper materials used, but what's at stake? If a cheap cable eventually breaks, you simply replace it with another cheap one and you're still far ahead of the game.

I bought a "returned" HDMI/DVI cable from BB for around $60 when I got my 811. When I upgraded to the 622 and needed HDMI/HDMI, I bought a new cable for $10 from DishStore. There is absolutely NO difference in perceived performance between the two. Buying the new cable was also (IIRC) about $30 less expensive than just getting a DVI/HDMI adapter to allow me to continue using the original cable...
J
Re: cable quality, you hit it on the head. The only possible difference I can speculate for a digital (HDMI) connection might be that in cases of cheap cables with minimal shielding, there is a possibility that if the cable is used in a very strong EMI field that the data could be corrupted enough to be seen on the display, but that has to be an extremely remote possibility. In that case you'd probably have other problems with the equipment caused by that interference. Perhaps a very long HDMI cable with minimal shielding might run close enough to an EMI source and pick-up enough interference (??) Another thought might be the lesser durability of the cable due to cheaper materials used, but what's at stake? If a cheap cable eventually breaks, you simply replace it with another cheap one and you're still far ahead of the game.

I bought a "returned" HDMI/DVI cable from BB for around $60 when I got my 811. When I upgraded to the 622 and needed HDMI/HDMI, I bought a new cable for $10 from DishStore. There is absolutely NO difference in perceived performance between the two. Buying the new cable was also (IIRC) about $30 less expensive than just getting a DVI/HDMI adapter to allow me to continue using the original cable...

Thanks for the information - I am sticking with the cheaper HDMI cable that currently works with my replaced 622. It is more than a little ironic that the $300 cable I purchased no longer works with the 622 running the L4.03 software, but the $30 HDMI cable works fine.

I make a living looking at images all day (as a radiologist) and I cannot tell any difference between the video quality produced by the two different cables, and even if there is a subtle difference that I cannot see it does not justify the higher price...

Thanks again,

J
mrsat1
Does your HDMI cable hang in the 622 jack or do you have it tied up to keep all tension off the jack?

I believe I have a monster cable which I paid around $110. My cable has a lot of
free slack. I does not hang tightly from the receiver. My average temp is 105 deg.
a low temp. of 84 deg. and a high temp. of 120 deg. My unit is outside on top of
a stereo cabinet on top of a targus chill notebook....rolou21.
damaged
I believe I have a monster cable which I paid around $110.

Ahh, monster cable, total crap, stay far away from that garbage.

Like someone suggested, monoprice.com.
J
It is more than a little ironic that the $300 cable I purchased no longer works with the 622 running the L4.03 software, but the $30 HDMI cable works fine.


You bought a HDMI cable for $300! That is 66% of the cost of a 622 just for the cable to connect it to the TV, and now it dosen't even work

With prices like that I bet the guy selling you your electronics makes more than you do as a radiologist
J
You bought a HDMI cable for $300! That is 66% of the cost of a 622 just for the cable to connect it to the TV, and now it dosen't even work

With prices like that I bet the guy selling you your electronics makes more than you do as a radiologist

I wanted the best picture quality possible for my home theater system, and actually that $300 cable was not even close to some of the other cable prices offered at a few of the local home theater stores around here. I wasn't about to cut any corners on the cabling.

As I previously mentioned, the $30 HMDI cable works great without a noticeable picture difference in picture quality - definitely a lesson learned on my part!

J
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I wanted the best picture quality possible for my home theater system, and actually that $300 cable was not even close to some of the other cable prices offered at a few of the local home theater stores around here. I wasn't about to cut any corners on the cabling.

As I previously mentioned, the $30 HMDI cable works great without a noticeable picture difference in picture quality - definitely a lesson learned on my part!

J

It happens to most everyone! Then, we find these forums and find out how much we overspent! Samething happened to me a couple years ago with fireworks!
D
Ahh, monster cable, total crap, stay far away from that garbage.

Like someone suggested, monoprice.com.

Monster is not crap. I only use them on my set up. Cheap cables don't cut it.
B
Presumably the Monster cables and similar are made of the best quality components, will give the best possible signal transfer, and will likely last the longest. But do you really need all that? Especially in the case of the digital signals (DVI, HDMI, etc.) the signal either works (at its best possible level) or it doesn't. Gold plating all around isn't going to make any difference in the performance of a digital connection except perhaps under very extreme conditions, like subjected to salt spray or etc.! For absolute best performance on analog signals, perhaps the higher quality products will make a difference that is discernable to the keenest eyes and ears. However, I would contend that the preceptable difference for most of us between "good" and "best" cables is nonexistent for analog. For digital, all that extra quality is essentially wasted. We agree that "cheap" cables are not the way to go. But even modest cables like those sold at monoprice.com and similar outlets are completely adequate. Spend your hard-earned money elsewhere...
damaged
Monster is not crap. I only use them on my set up. Cheap cables don't cut it.

Yes, they are indeed crap for the money you pay, they are made for the 'suckers' in the world to buy up, ask any electrical engineer, a well-made cable can be made inexpensively, I know people who have been suckered out of their money hate to hear it, but if you bought monster cable (at retail), you got ripped off, because you got nothing extra for the money you spent.

FWIW, I am not talking about _cheap_ cable, I am talking about _inexpensive_ cable, a big difference there my friend.
Poke
Yeah mono-price has great cables and would put them up against monster any day.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution - AC/DC
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Kiss - The Art Of Noise
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Beautiful Noise - Neil Diamond
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White Noise - Jessie Baylin
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White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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Mark Harmon is coming back as Gibbs in Origins, for the full season. Just saw, Dinozzo too, on NCIS . That will be an interesting writing project.
dfergie
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
R
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
Will the OG Gibbs be on NCIS or will Tony be on NCIS Origins?
dfergie
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
osu1991
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
This will be a SAD DAY when this passes ....

They complained the last year that we had a bunch of Blow Outs in the Playoffs ... heres an idea, lets Double the amount of teams and hope for Closer games ... ya right.

This never should have went past 8 teams, 10 at the most.

Now, I have heard that play in games are being talked about, such as #13 plays #24 and so forth, to cut the field down (why cut it down, just don't expand it.)
I'm not sure exactly how thats going to work out or if it was just someone talking.

They were also talking about starting the Season earlier ...

I really don't like the National Championship game being the end of January ... if the Semi Finals are over New Years, thats fine with the Championship game the next week.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Can't help but wonder if a worker overlooked checking the harness. I rarely ride a roller coaster anymore but when I do I check the harness myself pretty aggressively.
Can't imagine what the son is going through.

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Jimbo
dishstaller
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
Jimbo
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
It makes sense, however, I would want more types of restraints, so if one doesn't work, the other does ... the restraints coming over the shoulder I would have expected ... with a Seat belt as last resort.

Fwiw, I inquired with what they use on Coasters at Cedar Point, various Coasters, different restraints according to what the car and track requires ...

NONE of the Coasters at CP use THAT particular system :)
I'm glad to see ...
dishstaller
with a Seat belt as last resort.
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
Jimbo
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
Well, the over the shoulder support is better, but would require reconfiguring the cars.
Jimbo
Heres an article from the Akron Beacon ... seeing Six Flags has bought Cedar Point and Kings Island, they are included ...
I said earlier that Cedar Point doesn't use this type of seat restraint ... well, it does use it, But the difference is, the ones up here ALSO have the Over the shoulder restraint as well ... like I was suggesting that they should have used with the Goliath.

One of the new(er) one at Cedar point the Gate Keeper, uses the Clam shell .. I have rode it many times and have Mostly felt secure, that ride will stop you part way on the ride and you just hang, till the ride is ready to continue ... I typically ride the Front Car ... when its getting ready, you ARE hanging, in the car, looking down .... it would require 2 separate restraint systems to unlock at the same time to possibly get out of it.

meStevo
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
zippyfrog
That image is so true - especially after that Giants/Commanders game yesterday.
dfergie
Some tight games that went to the wire...
Y
Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Foxbat
Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…
dishstaller
Well, I helped him set up a gmail acct....I actually wanted to see what the new process is for setting up a gmail acct since it had been years since I set mine up. Anyway, I showed him how to forward the emails he wanted to keep over.
navychop
If Earth had shorter days,

Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

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Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

🙄
Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…😉
K
Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

I still have one of those although I've been trying to wean myself off it.
JSheridan
Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.
TheRatPatrol
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
dfergie
I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Last reply · posted in FTA Receiver / Equipment Support
I just received 6 receiver 2 port mini Multiswitch and it work great, no external power need it, and you can connect 6 receiver instead of 4 on most Mini Multiswitches... If anyone is interested in where they can get one PM me....
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Titanium
Have you tested using external power? Over the years, have found unpowered polarity switching to be unreliable. Especially problematic when used with DiSEqC motors or switch stacking.
H
No I have not. I just got it the other day and it is connected to six receivers working just fine. What I do is non power mini multi-switches work best with LNBF's and with LNB's
H
It also has a IPS and a OPS switch on the side of it with a power led light showing when is on. It seems to be very nice build switch
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Wednesday 10-14, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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NASCAR, Freeway Insurance 500, Sunday 10-18, 12PM PDT, Channel 148-04.
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CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Yeah. It's probably something going on with the MacBook as my iPhone has been pretty snappy.
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I have been optimizing the site the past few days... and got us here now. :) We are rocking now!

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Foxbat
Yeah. It's probably something going on with the MacBook as my iPhone has been pretty snappy.
I rebooted my MacBook Air and it's zipping right along. Sorry, but it was taking over 20 seconds to load pages, with the pulsing blue bars so it was munching on something.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱