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ktk3438
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
I just got an R10 (Tivo) for free from a friend of mine, and I have a couple questions.

First, do I have to call them to make it work, or can I just hook it up and it will be ok?

Second, does this unit absolutely HAVE to have 2 lines coming in to work, or can I just use one tuner?

Third, I only have a phone line connected to my main HR20, and it's only connected part of the time, (mostly not), will this unit NEED to have the phone line? None of my others have needed one, I really only use the one for caller I.D. when I'm not home for long periods of time.

And last, does anyone have good/bad opinions about these boxes, or is there anything else I need to know?

P.S. Will the remote I have for the HR20 & the other standard boxes work with this?


Thanks in advance for any help!
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ktk3438
Well it'a in and ready. Gotta get used to the functions coming from the HR20 this on is different for sure!

Anyway, D* sent out an installer to run my second line for the R10, and let me tell you what a horrible job this guy did.

First, unlike the first installer, he ran the line from switch in the basement, but drilled right through the window frame (first installer found a better route), then he ran it along the side of the house, layed it in the rain gutter half the length of my house, then up the roof a couple feet drilling self tapping screws into the shingles (which I didn't really want and that was why I wanted the dish in the side of the house and not the roof), then he drilled a hole right in the from of the house on the second floor and it looks so ghetto.

All he had to do was to come up over the side of the roof, and drill into the side (much less noticible from the street) and right to the unit. The unit, TV and all are on the side wall, so why come in through the front? Well I figured it out after looking in room. coming in from the front meant not having to move any furniture, and from the outside, he did not have to leave his ladder, and could lean in and do it all.

It is the work of an amature, and a lazy one at that. They are coming back out Tues, and a Supervisor will be checking it out. But if they Re-run this properly, what are they going to do with the hole they drilled in the front through the siding? Fill it in? And if so with what? I mean, it will always show with whatever they put in there, but I want a permanent seal on there so I don't have to worry about water getting behind the siding someday. Also are they going to fill in the holes in the roof? Also, all he did was feed the cable in and use silicone, even the cable company uses rubber grommets. Just looked unstable with an oversized hole and silicone filling all around it.

I'm asking because I do not know where I strand on this, the originial installer did a professional job and I was very happy, but this s just horrible
magicofdisney
I feel your pain. This is why we pre-wired for satellite in our new home. Haven't moved in yet, but I'll be so glad to NOT have visible wires running all over the place. To be honest, our best installer was the guy with Dish. I don't know if you have any grounds to stand on if you were there and allowed him to drill all those holes. I would be concerned as well, but probably the best you can do is make sure all those holes are well sealed with silicone. That's what we had to do in our current situation. I'm sure you could find something more attractive to retrofit in those spaces, but it might be a pain in the rear to deal with. GL, and hopefully something can be worked out.
ktk3438
I was not there, but my wife was, and all he said was "you have 2 choices, I can drill through walls and charge $40.00/hour, or I can drill through the front of the house".

First of all my wife didn't understand and was only trying to save $$ for extra labor for wall fishing. I think he knew what he was dealing with.

Now where he was wrong is he had more than 2 choices, but he just wanted to get get in, get out, & get paid as quickly as possible so he could jump another job.

It was sloppy, aesthetically horrible, just plain old wrong.

I did speak with his Supervisor, and they are coming back out tomorrow. He's going to take pictures and bring the tech with him. He did say that if this job is what I say, that he will not pay him because he gets paid by the job and not the hour.

I only wish I was going to be there, but the wife has instructions to not allow any work without my prior consent.

I just hope the holes get plugged and they are not very visible from the street.
ktk3438
Off the subject of the crappy installation, I have one more question pertaining to the unit.

Does this unit work with the "Active" button, and the "Game Lounge"?
iwc5893
Off the subject of the crappy installation, I have one more question pertaining to the unit.

Does this unit work with the "Active" button, and the "Game Lounge"?

No, it does not. I don't believe the Game Lounge works with any of the recorders (yet).
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
Foxbat
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.
Bobby
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.
Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.
Bobby
Regular$5.839​
Premium$6.299​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
harshness
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?
Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Crazy Little Thing Called Love - Queen
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Love Every Little Thing About You - Gallery
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Where's My Thing? - Rush
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I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing - Aerosmith
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Good Golly, Miss Molly - Little Richard
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· posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.
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Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.
navychop
Nature will develop better idiots.
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Nature will develop better idiots.
God help us.
Scott Greczkowski
I guess this is what the downtime was about.

IMG_0607.webp
Scott Greczkowski
Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share
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Jimbo
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

Walmart isn't the only one ...
Juan
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price
harshness
Walmart isn't the only one ...
I've been seeing this more and more on Amazon. Sometimes it seems there is no way they could have arrived at the number.

What rankles me even more is Costco changing units of measure between similar products, so you have to convert them to compare prices.
Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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K
WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
264​
2​
1449​
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SD mpeg4​
145​
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194​
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SD mpeg2​
433​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
38​
-2​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
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HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps
Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.
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Howard Simmons
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I don't get my hopes up for anything with Travolta these days.