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Last reply Jul 11, 2007 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

EchoStar: 6 More HDTV Channels In 2007

http://www.tvpredictions.com/echo051107.htm

Satcaster surpasses DIRECTV in sub additions for five of last six quarters.

The satcaster releases its first quarter financial statement.
By Phillip Swann

Washington, D.C. (May 11, 2007) -- EchoStar yesterday reported a 15 percent increase in first quarter revenue, saying it added 310,000 net subscribers.

That's a 38 percent increase in subs over the previous first quarter.

The satcaster credited the growth to the advance of High-Definition TV and the company's partnerships with third-party sellers, such as AT&T.

In an investors call with financial analysts, EchoStar also confirmed again that it plans to launch two satellites at year's end to expand its high-def programming capacity.

EchoStar's Dish Network now carries 32 national high-def channels, more than any other TV provider. However, the nation's second largest satcaster is under pressure from rival DIRECTV to expand HD capacity in the coming months. DIRECTV has said it will offer 100 national HD channels by year's end.

In the investors call, EchoStar CEO Charlie Ergen also said the company might add roughly six more high-def channels this year.

The satcaster said it had 13.4 million subscribers at the end of the first quarter, an increase of roughly 9 percent over the end of the first quarter in 2006.

DIRECTV, the nation's largest satellite TV service, reported yesterday that it now has 16.2 million. But DIRECTV said it added only 235,000 subs overall in the first quarter, compared to EchoStar's 310,000.

Thomas Watts, an analyst for Cowen and Co., yesterday said EchoStar has added more net subscribers in five of the last six quarters.

EchoStar yesterday also said its average monthly revenue per subscriber was $64.17 in the first quarter, a 6.6 percent increase.

DIRECTV's average monthly revenue per customer increased 5.2 percent in the first quarter to $73.40.

Both companies credited the rise in revenue to an increase in high-def and Digital Video Recorder subs.

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Hemi 6.1

Jul 9, 2007

I 've had Dish for a week now,And I've got to say I haven't found 1 thing on the voom channels worth watching. Not impressed with the voom package.The HD looks good ,but programming is boring IMO. Not worth the extra $$$

MikeD-C05

Jul 10, 2007

So do you think it is acceptable to charge extra for the hd versions of the existing sd channels we already pay for in the basic packs ? I don't . Just like they don't charge you for the hd versions of the premium movie channels like Hbo/SHowtime/Cinemax/Starz , they shouldn't charge you for the national duplicates of sd channels in hd. We are paying $10.00 more for the reptitious VOOM channels in our $20.00 hd pack.

gadgtfreek

Jul 10, 2007

MikeD-C05 said:
So do you think it is acceptable to charge extra for the hd versions of the existing sd channels we already pay for in the basic packs ? I don't . Just like they don't charge you for the hd versions of the premium movie channels like Hbo/SHowtime/Cinemax/Starz , they shouldn't charge you for the national duplicates of sd channels in hd. We are paying $10.00 more for the reptitious VOOM channels in our $20.00 hd pack.

To play devils advocate:

Do you think its fair HGTVHD should spend the money to go all HD without recouping its startup and continuing costs. Everyone has to be digital by 2009, but not HD. Id rather everyone charge a little more and go all HD sooner rather than later. Once everything is HD, they have to revamp the packages anyways.

Also, E* is spending money too.

With that being said, I would like one flat rate to give me all the HD and be done with it. It still irritates me I have to sub to the at250 just to get natgeohd.

bowens

Jul 10, 2007

elwaylite said:
...Everyone has to be digital by 2009...

All OTA broadcast channels have to be digital. This has nothing to do with satellite.

gadgtfreek

Jul 10, 2007

bowens said:
All OTA broadcast channels have to be digital. This has nothing to do with satellite.

Youre right, Im still so used to cable. Doesnt cable have to have all offerings on digital like sat by 2009?

My point was that channels dont have to go HD, they choose to. I dont think its fair for us to expect them to pay for it all out of pocket.

As I said, I want everyone to be HD, would make me plenty happy.

navychop

Jul 10, 2007

elwaylite said:
Doesnt cable have to have all offerings on digital like sat by 2009?

My point was that channels dont have to go HD, they choose to.

No. Cable would like to go all digital, to recover spectrum, but there is no requirement. I've read that most cable boxes in use today are still analog only. That's a huge capital expense to replace. CableCard 2 might be a partial answer.

mike123abc

Jul 10, 2007

elwaylite said:
My point was that channels dont have to go HD, they choose to. I dont think its fair for us to expect them to pay for it all out of pocket.

Why not? If they want me to continue to watch them, they probably better consider HD soon. It is part of being competative. If they want to sell their product they need to produce a product people want. Part of most companies budgets go towards R&D and new equipment. It is considered a continued cost of doing business. Yes in a way it is built into the price we pay for everything.

Just like local channels have to pay to upgrade equipment to digital. It is the price they pay to use the "free" airwaves. HBO is upgrading all their channels to HD, do you think subs would be happy if they suddenly charged a new HD upgrade fee? They may have a price hike in the future but if it went too high for the perceived value, people would simply drop it.

gadgtfreek

Jul 10, 2007

mike123abc said:
Why not? If they want me to continue to watch them, they probably better consider HD soon. It is part of being competative. If they want to sell their product they need to produce a product people want. Part of most companies budgets go towards R&D and new equipment. It is considered a continued cost of doing business. Yes in a way it is built into the price we pay for everything.

Just like local channels have to pay to upgrade equipment to digital. It is the price they pay to use the "free" airwaves. HBO is upgrading all their channels to HD, do you think subs would be happy if they suddenly charged a new HD upgrade fee? They may have a price hike in the future but if it went too high for the perceived value, people would simply drop it.

Like I said, there's two ways to look at it.

And actually, if you followed what Sinclair did to some of tghe cable co's, they are actually charging for rebroadcast rights of OTA now. So they are making their money back

gadgtfreek

Jul 10, 2007

navychop said:
No. Cable would like to go all digital, to recover spectrum, but there is no requirement. I've read that most cable boxes in use today are still analog only. That's a huge capital expense to replace. CableCard 2 might be a partial answer.

Ah, for some reason I thought they had to go digital.

kstuart

Jul 10, 2007

Hemi 6.1 said:
I 've had Dish for a week now,And I've got to say I haven't found 1 thing on the voom channels worth watching. Not impressed with the voom package.The HD looks good ,but programming is boring IMO. Not worth the extra $$$

It certainly depends on what sort of programming you are looking for.

My wife likes to watch the latest fashions, and Ultra-HD is much better than any other channel for that - they have the full collections soon after the shows, and, of course, HD is much better for looking at clothes (and supermodels

).

I found that I like Rave-HD quite a bit, as it has recorded live music concerts 24/7. Mtv-HD should be a good complement, since IIRC it is studio music videos instead.

Other subjects covered by Voom, (besides Music and Fashion) are Horror Films, Martial Arts Films, Indie Films, Intl Films, Intl Sports, Extreme Sports, Art, Travel, Antiques, Videogaming, and Animation.

All in all, Voom is a surprisingly intellectual and "high-brow" collection of channels (aside from the Horror and Martial Arts channels, which ironically are responsible for the "trashy" reputation of Voom, despite the fact that most of the programming would be suitable for PBS, BBC, Discovery or Natl Geographic). I suppose that the creators of Voom felt that the early adopters of HD were likely to be wealthy upper-middle class types...

By the way, while there is definitely repetition on the Voom channels, there is certainly a lot of repetition and reruns on all the other channels as well. There is 168 hours per week per channel, and no channel has 168 hours of new material each week. The Voom channels do have new material every month, rough guess of 5-10 hours per week of new material.

roachxp

Jul 11, 2007

I hope Voom works on more partnership deal like Goltv and WorldsportHD, and Gamespot and GameplayHD.

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meStevo

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Last reply 15 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Volcanic Eruptions

Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.

Monitoring Data for Kīlauea

For more information on how electronic tiltmeters and GPS receivers help monitor the deformation of Kīlauea volcano, see the HVO Deformation page.

www.usgs.gov

View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4

Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.

View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ

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meStevo

Oct 1, 2026

View: https://youtu.be/tv37YPVfHME

Gemini summary:

In this video from Shawn Willsey: Geology Explained, geology professor Shawn Willsey details rapid subsurface and surface changes at Kīlauea volcano in Hawaii:

Signs of a Magma Intrusion (Dike): Summit tiltmeters recorded an unprecedented, rapid inflation spike of around 45 microradians [04:00 Opens in a new window ], accompanied by a dramatic surge of over 100 shallow earthquakes within 24 hours (peaking at a magnitude 3.4) [01:44 Opens in a new window ]. The deformation indicates that magma is intruding in an east-west orientation beneath the southern caldera/Halemaʻumaʻu region [01:16 Opens in a new window ].
No Rift Zone Migration: Tilt and seismic data confirm magma is remaining confined to the summit area rather than traveling down the East Rift Zone [02:40 Opens in a new window ].
Structural Pathways: Willsey notes that pre-existing faults and fractures expanded during the 2018 caldera collapse [08:32 Opens in a new window ]. Because these fracture zones remain unsealed, magma can move and mobilize toward the surface much faster than before [10:17 Opens in a new window ].
Potential Outcomes: The intrusion could stall underground without erupting, or it could feed a new east-west fissure eruption inside the summit caldera, similar to the September 2023 event [02:47 Opens in a new window ].
Shift to Dome Overflows: Webcam footage from overnight reveals repeated pulses of fluid lava overflowing the spatter cone at the North Vent [11:42 Opens in a new window ]. Occurring roughly every 20 to 50 minutes and lasting several minutes each [12:36 Opens in a new window ], these cyclic overflows suggest Kīlauea may be transitioning away from high-fountaining episodes toward regular surface overflows [14:54 Opens in a new window ].

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meStevo

Oct 8, 2026

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Foxbat

Today at 8:50 AM

Foxbat

15 minutes ago

Oooo, quite the show now. All three vents have doming and overflows. The cone that built up around the North vent lost its upper quarter at 02:50 Oct 17 and is now spewing lava at a healthy rate. Don't know if I would say it's a fountain, but it's close.

edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:

Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice

Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)

Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE

Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii

Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.

All eruptive vents and lava flows are confined to Halemaʻumaʻu crater within Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. Tephra fall from volcanic ash clouds is greatest within 3 miles (5 km) of the vents, lighter ash and Pele's Hair may stay suspended for large distances from the vents.

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Ham Radio 2.0

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Military grade antenna for your off-grid setup #hamradio #satcom #offgrid

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Van

Last reply 22 minutes ago · posted in What's Cooking?

Whats for breakfast?

Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.

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dfergie

Oct 9, 2026

Egg, sausage and cheese sandwich between bread toasted in butter in skillet... Chocolate milk.

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dfergie

Sunday at 11:17 AM

dfergie said:
Egg, sausage and cheese sandwich between bread toasted in butter in skillet... Chocolate milk.

Add fresh hash browns, delete chocolate for milk with a slice of bacon.

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TRG

Sunday at 12:06 PM

Bacon, eggs, hash browns and toast. Coffee.

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TRG

Monday at 2:11 PM

Wound up at the Waffle House this morning. Got the two egg breakfast with coffee.

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dfergie

Monday at 6:08 PM

Speaking of waffles, I'm going to put my mini waffle iron on stove so I'll remember to make waffles in the morning... Had some last week, been awhile.

dfergie

22 minutes ago

Dos cackleberrys over easy on top of 2 corned beef hash patties fried in skillet... Chocolate milk.

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply 23 minutes ago · posted in What's Cooking?

Homemade Breakfast Sausage

Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...

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navychop

Today at 8:14 AM

Bob Evans Sage.

reubenray

Today at 8:41 AM

navychop said:
Bob Evans Sage.

I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.

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dfergie

Today at 8:45 AM

Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 8:47 AM

reubenray said:
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.

amazon maybe :what

slow_poke_pete

Today at 8:52 AM

reubenray said:
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.

owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!

slow_poke_pete

Today at 8:54 AM

dfergie said:
Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)

id'e rather make my own vs store bought.

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reubenray

42 minutes ago

slow_poke_pete said:
owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!

Especially when I can get a two pound roll of Jimmy Dean from Sam's Club for $7.38.

dfergie

23 minutes ago

They run Owens at $3.99 for lb and $7.99 a couple times a month at some grocery stores here, I actually was wrong, just checked a pork sirloin roast it was $1.99 a lb. (cooked it yesterday so pack was in trash)

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AI Model Poisoned: Uncovering Hidden Dangers #shorts

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Club TWiT: Mikah's Crafting Corner #25 - Ray Gun Papercraft Part 6

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 9:02 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Smoke! Smoke! Smoke! (That Cigarette) -- Tex Williams

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Don't Do Me Like That - Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers

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I LIKE It LIKE THAT-The Dave Clark Five

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Five O'Clock World - The Vogues

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Six O'Clock News - John Prine

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TheRatPatrol

Last reply Today at 7:40 AM · posted in TV Shows

NCIS

Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?

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Jimbo

Monday at 11:41 PM

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Jimbo

Tuesday at 6:25 PM

Jimbo said:
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

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Howard Simmons

Thursday at 1:19 PM

Jimbo said:
Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

Tony as the director.

Jimbo

Thursday at 2:13 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Tony as the director.

Would you rather have LaRoche ???

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dfergie

Thursday at 4:37 PM

I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...

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Howard Simmons

Yesterday at 11:30 AM

Jimbo said:
Would you rather have LaRoche ???

No. Bring in someone new.

Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 12:50 PM

Howard Simmons said:
No. Bring in someone new. Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.

KAB

Today at 6:18 AM

I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

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Jimbo

Today at 7:40 AM

KAB said:
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

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