Anyone planning to buy the iphone 17?

[b4pjoe]

You can have folders in Apple's email but what I'm not sure about is ability to set up rules to automatically screen an email and move it to a folder.

You can set up rules to move emails to another folder.

 

[TheForce]

Starting the arduous task of activating my wife's new 17Pro. The process involves updating both old iphone and AW 10 to iOS26. The mini12 took 3 hours. I then backed up the Mini12 to the iCloud account. Now I'm upgrading her new AW10 to iOS26 and it is taking so far 2 hours with one more to go. By contrast, I upgrade both my AW Ultra 2 and iphone 15PM in about 75 minutes. The lady at Apple store told me this is important to do the transfer to the new 17Pro. Must be on iOS26 on both AW and Mini 12 iphone.

I ordered a new case for $9.99 with clear and corner bumpers from Amazon. Best Buy had same one for $49.99.
Also ordered her a new power bank with Mag safe and integrated Apple Watch charger. That was $53 with some coupon codes.

 

[klang]

Just started on my 17 Pro. This is typically pretty painless to restore from an iCloud. Hopefully still true today.

 

[TheForce]

The most difficult was the time to upgrade my old iphone 12 to iOS26 and the Apple watch so it would transfer to the new 17Pro. The download to update my AW10 took 4hrs 10 minutes.
The transfer side by side didn't work as the new phone didn't see the old one right next to it. After 3 tries and resetting the new phone I gave up and installed from icloud backup. That took 7 minutes to get started but continued to download the photo library in the background.

They must have fixed the connection with Verizon because I was able to let the process move my phone number over and then is said my old phone's sim is locked. Made some calls and text and all worked well. Glad Apple fixed that.

Had to re-pair the new phone to both Teslas so it would communicate.

I think I'm all done and just need to wait for the return box to arrive to get my $100 credit.

 

[navychop]

Want some Bactine for those arrows in your back?

 

[Ronnie-]

Just read a report that said the orange and blue models of the pro as showing very obvious scratches on the metal and the back glass on many store display models.

Scratchgate 2.0?

 

[comfortably_numb]

iPhone Orange- Presidential Edition

iPhone Blue- Law Enforcement Edition

 

[klang]

My blue model is in a case so no way the back can be scratched.

As was mentioned in the other thread, the most lengthy part of this was signing back into all my apps with 2 factor authorization.

 

[comfortably_numb]

the most lengthy part of this was signing back into all my apps with 2 factor authorization.

It seems like I've always had to sign back into all my apps when upgrading phones, as far as I can remember.

 

[TheForce]

Had most trouble setting up Apple watch connectivity to the 17Pro. Would not pair until I reset the watch back to factory and then reinstalled the iOS 26 and then it would pair to the phone. The first sign or trouble was Verizon didn't recognize the watch until I restarted both the 17P and the AW10. I had less trouble with just the 17Pro transferring everything than the Apple watch.

One tip I would suggest is not to set up face ID until everything else is working. We set it up initially and when the trouble surfaced everytime I needed to make a change or delete something I had to run around the house and find my wife to proceed. One time she decided to do her hair and it was all wet and Face ID didn't recognize her face with wet hair so had to wait for her to dry her hair before proceeding.

Some things are mission critical apps like the phone to act as a key to drive a Tesla. I finally got the phone to see the Tesla app and unlock the car but never could get the Watch to work. Said I already had too many connections. Tesla only allows two active BT connections. Also why I never could get the game controller or headphones working for the back seat.

 

[klang]

It seems like I've always had to sign back into all my apps when upgrading phones, as far as I can remember.

It seems to me more apps are not maintaining our credentials in a way that survives a restore-from-backup. Maybe it is because of 2FA. I spent a lot more time testing all my apps yesterday than I recall in the past. Done now for this time around.

 

[TheForce]

Just read a report that said the orange and blue models of the pro as showing very obvious scratches on the metal and the back glass on many store display models.

Scratchgate 2.0?

I saw the videos, and trust me, my wife will not be taking a box cutter knife to gouge the iphone 17Pro by force to expose the aluminum under the anodized coating or beating it with a hammer. Nor will she be dropping it over a cliff onto concrete from 25 ft. up. Besides, we always put our iphones in one of those clear silicone cases with the bumpers on the corners. We buy the soft rubber kind so the bare phone is not so slippery on hard surface counter tops.

The videos I saw where the guy gouged the phone with a knife admitted he hates Apple and was an Android fanboy. I've had Android in the past and had no problem with them. I still have one with a 4K screen but no service. Works great as an extra wifi screen for some uses. The key reason for switching to iphone for us is the infrastructure with Apple Watch, Tesla, and several other 3rd party applications that works better on iOS than Android, like programming my robot how to mow my lawn. I don't get the paranoid androids have unless they frequently feel left out when some 3rd party developers release first on iOS. For that I suppose they are justified. I'm sure Android gets some features before Apple too.

 

[comfortably_numb]

I don't get the paranoid androids have

Android = Google = Not to be trusted IMHO

 

[TheForce]

It seems to me more apps are not maintaining our credentials in a way that survives a restore-from-backup. Maybe it is because of 2FA. I spent a lot more time testing all my apps yesterday than I recall in the past. Done now for this time around.

A bit off topic but I've been reading up on the next big thing in security that will replace 2FA and passwords. It's "Passkeys." Been around for a long time but only with Linux. Now more are offering it as an easier more secure alternative. I know little about it but it seems this will be the next new security. A passkey is unique to each device. The only way a breach can happen to get into your account is if someone steals your phone or computer and can open it up before the device destroys it's content. In other words, data theft can no longer happen from afar.

As I understand a 2FA is never permanent. It expires in a few minutes or once used. The problem I had is some devices that connect with BT needed to be paired again. My wife needed our two Teslas and her blood pressure cuff paired again as those were not transferred to the new 17Pro or Apple watch tied to the new phone. Over the next few days, I'm sure she will be telling me other stuff doesn't work and need fixed.

 

[b4pjoe]

A bit off topic but I've been reading up on the next big thing in security that will replace 2FA and passwords. It's "Passkeys".

I've started using them more recently but it will be long time before they become the default security method but so far they are great. On Apple products you can store them in your iCloud account so they will work on all of your devices using that account. They can also be stored in my password manager which is Bitwarden which I have on all my devices. It is much easier than 2FA if done right and more secure than 2FA. I just wish more sites supported them.

 

[Foxbat]

Just read a report that said the orange and blue models of the pro as showing very obvious scratches on the metal and the back glass on many store display models.

Scratchgate 2.0?

JerryRigEverything narrowed it down to the lack of a bend radius on the edges which minimizes the anodization thickness at the point. Apparently there are standards for these things in Military hardware and ISO which Apple did not implement. If you carry sharp or hard objects with your iPhone 17 Pro models, be aware you could experience the anodized finish being removed at these 90° edges.

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[Ronnie-]

I saw the videos, and trust me, my wife will not be taking a box cutter knife to gouge the iphone 17Pro by force to expose the aluminum under the anodized coating or beating it with a hammer. Nor will she be dropping it over a cliff onto concrete from 25 ft. up. Besides, we always put our iphones in one of those clear silicone cases with the bumpers on the corners. We buy the soft rubber kind so the bare phone is not so slippery on hard surface counter tops.

The videos I saw where the guy gouged the phone with a knife admitted he hates Apple and was an Android fanboy. I've had Android in the past and had no problem with them. I still have one with a 4K screen but no service. Works great as an extra wifi screen for some uses. The key reason for switching to iphone for us is the infrastructure with Apple Watch, Tesla, and several other 3rd party applications that works better on iOS than Android, like programming my robot how to mow my lawn. I don't get the paranoid androids have unless they frequently feel left out when some 3rd party developers release first on iOS. For that I suppose they are justified. I'm sure Android gets some features before Apple too.

I highly doubt anyone is taking a box cutter to the display units that I was talking about. That seems to be wear and tear from very minimal handling.

 

[harshness]

One tip I would suggest is not to set up face ID until everything else is working.

This is always good practice.

 

[TheForce]

I highly doubt anyone is taking a box cutter to the display units that I was talking about. That seems to be wear and tear from very minimal handling.

Anodizing is a process I am quite familiar with. It does take a sharp object or metal file to scrape it off. Anodizing is not like spray paint. It's far more durable.

Never claimed it was indestructible. Just that I would not believe touching and holding an iphone would wear off the anodized color even for several years.

Apple has been using this process for colorizing phones and watches and the targeted nonsense, like the videos Roland showed never seemed to be an issue before. What was an issue in the past was when a person put an phone in their back pocket and sat on it and the frame bent. One case was reported by a really obese guy who sat on his phone and bent it to the point the battery caught fire. I won't repeat the jokes about that.

If you carry sharp or hard objects with your iPhone 17 Pro models, be aware you could experience the anodized finish being removed at these 90° edges.

I'm not intending to blindly defend my decision to buy a 17Pro. But I do take issue with the nonsense some You Tubers spread just to click bate.
No, I have no intention of taking a box cutter, knife or hammer to my iphone.
No, I do not plan to drop it 25 feet to a concrete surface.
If an owner does those things it IS HIS FAULT, not Apple's.
Yes, I plan to protect the iphone with a case just in case of an accidental drop. Yes, after 4 years of daily use I do expect there will be some wear of the buttons even with a case. My wife's 12mini with red anodized frame doesn't have a scratch on it.

There is an implied sense of personal responsibility to take care of your expensive stuff. Don't toss your iphone into a pocket next to metal objects that will scratch it or crack the camera lenses. Don't use it as a hammer to pound on stuff or as a pry tool.

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There are two reasons why we upgrade our iphones, a scratch around the edges is not one of them.
1. The batteries do not last forever.
2. The technology is old, slow, and maybe no longer supported.

In my experience, the battery wears out before the technology is obsolete.

 

[harshness]

It's "Passkeys." Been around for a long time but only with Linux.

Apple has supported Passkeys for three years now (with the release of iOS 16 on September 12, 2022).

Android added Passkey support one month later (to the day) with Android 9 (Pie).

The problem with Passkeys is that many websites seem to favor treating them as 2FA rather than a primary login method.

For its part, Xenforo (the SatelliteGuys forum software) has direct support for Passkeys in version 2.3 and later.