AT&T and TPG finally close their sale.

[Juan]

Your math is pretty bad. When you spend more than you make you do not have any profit. Just deficit.

No

Cancel 1 satellite that's 2 billion in the pocket

Cancel all development on set top boxes..that's atleast another couple billion in the pocket. Reuse existing

Sue fraudulent dealers cough Claude cough

That another billion


Move customers from expensive satellite platform to cheap inexpensive internet platform. Thats another couple of billion

Stop installing satellite customers forcing them to streaming..another couple billion in installation costs

Layoff thousands of directv employees


After they bled every nickel they could out of directv..they sold it at a loss so they could take a tax write off

Trust me att made money

 

[b4pjoe]

Trust me att made money

LOL...yes they made some money. They spent a lot more than what they made. That does not not equal good business.

 

[Juan]

LOL...yes they made some money. They spent a lot more than what they made. That does not not equal good business.

Did I ever say good business? Lol

 

[Bruce]

No

Cancel 1 satellite that's 2 billion in the pocket

Cancel all development on set top boxes..that's atleast another couple billion in the pocket. Reuse existing

Sue fraudulent dealers cough Claude cough

That another billion


Move customers from expensive satellite platform to cheap inexpensive internet platform. Thats another couple of billion

Stop installing satellite customers forcing them to streaming..another couple billion in installation costs

Layoff thousands of directv employees


After they bled every nickel they could out of directv..they sold it at a loss so they could take a tax write off

Trust me att made money

Still waiting on that link that proves one thing you have posted.

 

[b4pjoe]

Did I ever say good business? Lol

That is literally what you are saying in all the posts about how much AT&T made off of the deal to buy DIRECTV. No matter how many times you make the claim it will never be true. They lost billions of dollars by buying DIRECTV. Then lets talk about about their deal buying Warner Media. Another disaster.

 

[Juan]

That is literally what you are saying in all the posts about how much AT&T made off of the deal to buy DIRECTV. No matter how many times you make the claim it will never be true. They lost billions of dollars by buying DIRECTV. Then lets talk about about their deal buying Warner Media. Another disaster.

You don't understand that it's not a real-estate deal...its a business...you can't just look at what they paid for it and what they sold it for....you have to look at the profit directv made while att owned it...directv never lost any money...all the profit went toward what att paid for it...when they did things like renegotiate contracts for better deals...directv gross is about 33 billion a year...the profit att " claimed" was about 2.4 billion...but when att drastically cut operating costs...more of that 33 billion some how ended up IN ATTs bank account...just hidden

 

[b4pjoe]

You don't understand that it's not a real-estate deal...its a business...you can't just look at what they paid for it and what they sold it for....you have to look at the profit directv made while att owned it...directv never lost any money...all the profit went toward what att paid for it...when they did things like renegotiate contracts for better deals...directv gross is about 33 billion a year...the profit att " claimed" was about 2.4 billion...but when att drastically cut operating costs...more of that 33 billion some how ended up IN ATTs bank account...just hidden

You don't understand that if you spend more money than you bring in it is an overall loss.

 

[Bruce]

You don't understand that it's not a real-estate deal...its a business...you can't just look at what they paid for it and what they sold it for....you have to look at the profit directv made while att owned it...directv never lost any money...all the profit went toward what att paid for it...when they did things like renegotiate contracts for better deals...directv gross is about 33 billion a year...the profit att " claimed" was about 2.4 billion...but when att drastically cut operating costs...more of that 33 billion some how ended up IN ATTs bank account...just hidden

Prove it.

 

[savarese04]

Breakdown

1. Initial Acquisition – 2015

• Enterprise value: $67.1 billion (including debt)
• Equity cost: ~$48.5 billion

2. Operating Profits – 2015 to 2021

• Cumulative operating income estimated at ~$20 billion

3. 2021 Spin‑off with TPG

• AT&T sold 30% of DirecTV for cash + distributions, retaining 70%
• Sold valuation: $16.25 billion, so AT&T's retained value = $11.4 billion

4. Cash Inflows from Joint Venture (2021–2025)

• AT&T received approximately $19 billion in distributions post‑2021.

5. Final Sale – July 2, 2025

• AT&T sells its remaining 70% stake to TPG
• Deal price: $7.6 billion, paid through installments by 2029
• Final transaction closes July 2, 2025

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Net Gain/Loss After Full Exit

Item	Amount (≈)
Purchase Price (2015)	– $67.1B
Cumulative Operating Income (2015–2021)	+ $20B
Cash Distributions (2021–2025)	+ $19B
2021 Retained Ownership Value (70% of $16.25B)	+ $11.4B
Final Sale Cash Received (2025–2029)	+ $7.6B
Net Result	≈ – $9.1B

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Final Takeaway

After full divestiture, AT&T's total outlay ($67B) minus operating profits ($20B) and total cash returns (~$38.6B) nets out to a loss of about $9 billion.

 

[Bruce]

Breakdown

1. Initial Acquisition – 2015

• Enterprise value: $67.1 billion (including debt)
• Equity cost: ~$48.5 billion

2. Operating Profits – 2015 to 2021

• Cumulative operating income estimated at ~$20 billion

3. 2021 Spin‑off with TPG

• AT&T sold 30% of DirecTV for cash + distributions, retaining 70%
• Sold valuation: $16.25 billion, so AT&T's retained value = $11.4 billion

4. Cash Inflows from Joint Venture (2021–2025)

• AT&T received approximately $19 billion in distributions post‑2021.

5. Final Sale – July 2, 2025

• AT&T sells its remaining 70% stake to TPG
• Deal price: $7.6 billion, paid through installments by 2029
• Final transaction closes July 2, 2025

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Net Gain/Loss After Full Exit

Item	Amount (≈)
Purchase Price (2015)	– $67.1B
Cumulative Operating Income (2015–2021)	+ $20B
Cash Distributions (2021–2025)	+ $19B
2021 Retained Ownership Value (70% of $16.25B)	+ $11.4B
Final Sale Cash Received (2025–2029)	+ $7.6B
Net Result	≈ – $9.1B

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Final Takeaway

After full divestiture, AT&T's total outlay ($67B) minus operating profits ($20B) and total cash returns (~$38.6B) nets out to a loss of about $9 billion.

Waiting for Juan…………..

 

[Jimbo]

You don't understand that it's not a real-estate deal...its a business...you can't just look at what they paid for it and what they sold it for....you have to look at the profit directv made while att owned it...directv never lost any money...all the profit went toward what att paid for it...when they did things like renegotiate contracts for better deals...directv gross is about 33 billion a year...the profit att " claimed" was about 2.4 billion...but when att drastically cut operating costs...more of that 33 billion some how ended up IN ATTs bank account...just hidden

Where is This info coming from ?

 

[b4pjoe]

Where is This info coming from ?

An overactive imagination.

 

[Juan]

You don't understand that if you spend more money than you bring in it is an overall loss.

You do realize att bought directv for the customer base..The plan was to dismantle the satellite service and move everyone to streaming..The plan is still happening with the new owners...I am done messing with you and will move on

 

[Bruce]

You do realize att bought directv for the customer base..The plan was to dismantle the satellite service and move everyone to streaming..The plan is still happening with the new owners...I am done messing with you and will move on

You have been proven incorrect on every post about this subject, now is your attempt to pivot.

 

[b4pjoe]

You do realize att bought directv for the customer base..The plan was to dismantle the satellite service and move everyone to streaming..The plan is still happening with the new owners...I am done messing with you and will move on

Yeah you are still wrong but it is time to move on so peace to you.

 

[Juan]

Yeah you are still wrong but it is time to move on so peace to you.

You don't understand corporate economics

 

[Bruce]

You don't understand corporate economics

.I am done messing with you and will move on

 

[Bruce]

You don't understand corporate economics

Juan, I do have to ask, what is your expertise in corporate economics?

Maybe Google University?

 

[lordodogg]

This thread has really turned upside down…

 

[John2021]

Look at this way

You bought a taxi for 40k

You made 500k over 8 years

You sold the taxi after 8 years of sevice for 10k

Some would call that a 30k loss on the taxi while in reality you made 470k in profit

It's not what att bought and sold directv for

It's how much profit they made while owning it


Dish Network found a way to increase profits while losing customers ( 5g a different story)

Att copied them

Your 470k don't include things like
Insurance fuel taxes maintenance depreciation write offs plus saving for a new taxi health ins food ect ect ect. The 470k is before expenses at the end of the day you will have less than 470k after its all said and done. i even write my accountant off. and who keeps a taxi for 8 years makes no sense since repairs would be more costly than a monthly note in some cases. i also don't think i would want to ride in an old beater that might break down...