AT&T Should sell DIRECTV to DISH

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  1. NashGuy

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    It might be just as simple as switching out Akamai for their own AT&T Content Delivery Network. (One wonders, though, why they're even using Akamai in the first place since they seem to have an in-house competitor to it.)

    AT&T Content Delivery Network (CDN) Services
     
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    My understanding is Akamai's is way better for building new live OTT streaming services.
     
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    When I was researching CDN's a few years ago for a client, I was surprised at how many, including some big names, were basically just selling rebranded Akamai services.
     
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    Interesting. Well, that could be the case here. I know that Akamai is definitely a leader. I wondered if perhaps Quickplay, an IP video distribution tech firm that AT&T acquired back in 2016 might have had CDN operations that were rebranded as AT&T CDN Services. Maybe not but I would bet that in some way Quickplay technology helped form the basis of the cloud-based streaming platform that now powers DirecTV Now and will also power the forthcoming AT&T TV.

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    From reading your link, it looks like Quickplay is likely running their own show and that might well include AT&T's CDN offerings.
     
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    When I was still in the media biz, we tried a number of different offerings. There were a few who weren't reselling Akamai, like Level3, but none had the feature set or deep cache performance that Akamai (and their resold service) did. It would take a huge investment to match them at this point for a large implementation.
     
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    Thats part of the 10-15%
     
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    If Streaming cost continue to go down, why do thier cost to the customer keep going UP ?
     
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    Well, currently the streaming services are making little or no money, or even losing money while content costs continue to rise, just like cable and satellite. They probably have to raise prices a bit to keep their loses to a minimum or try to break even.
     
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    Of course, when they decide they have given the farm away long enough to get subs, they will all start raising prices, which takes the $35 offer that was where most started, up to 50-60 and up, don't forget they charge for more DVR ability as well.

    So, real soon, that nice and cheap idea of streaming, cost just about the same as it was for the D* package ...
    Also, don't forget, your Internet provider will want more money, mine has already raised prices and again another $10 this past month for some BS reason that they make sound convoluted enough that you don't know what they said and they don't know what they are talking about when they explain it. Just a way to charge more.
     
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    Yeah, I think you're about to see AT&T just cut to the chase and go where you say it's going (although it'll still be less than they charge for the same channel packages on DTV satellite).

    "We're done trying to sell big cable packages via streaming at a loss to gain subscribers. We did that for awhile with DirecTV Now (mainly so those subscribers could pay US to be our beta tester/guinea pigs for our next-gen streaming platform). But now we're ready to roll this thing out as our main platform. We've renegotiated our carriage contracts and we've been able to get better rates. We've also gotten permission to thin out our standard packages so that they focus on the main channels that people actually want, with all the niche channels relegated to add-on Extra packs. It's $50 for the standard package or $70 for the upgrade with RSNs and a few more channels. Serves any two screens at the same time. Everything includes HBO and our upcoming WarnerMedia streaming service. Want to upgrade from 20 hours to 120 hours of cloud DVR? That'll add another $10. But if you bundle this with AT&T home broadband or wireless phone service, you'll get $10 off your total bill every month."

    Will it be an earth-shattering bargain? No. But it'll be a competitive deal and one that is sustainable for AT&T to offer for several years.
     
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    Only 2 tvs ?
    Does it have to be used only on one network ?
    Can I have it at home and then when I go over to my Parents, can I log in on thier network and watch D* ?
    Were talking streaming here, so thats no different than any other streaming service ... many of us have our Netflix used at more than one location.
     
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    My expectation is that, in this regard, it will work the same way that DTV Now works today. You'll get the full service -- live channels, VOD, cloud DVR -- on any screen, in home or away (as long as you're in the USA), whether connected via wifi or cellular. (OK, there may be a few live sports events that get blacked out if you're connected via cellular due to contractual reasons.) If you have this service added to your AT&T Fiber or AT&T Internet home broadband service, your data cap will be eliminated. If you're streaming this service over an AT&T Wireless cellular connection, the data you use won't count against your plan.

    Yes, you will be able to log in and watch this service when connected to your parents' wifi (regardless of who their home broadband provider is). Although I suppose it's possible that if AT&T sees your account regularly being logged into from their wifi AND your parents are on AT&T Fiber/Internet but don't subscribe to AT&T TV, then maybe they'd figure out that your two households are sharing an account. So that could be a problem for you if that's what you plan to do. (Or maybe not. Netflix seems to be cool with folks sharing accounts.)

    Like with DTV Now, AT&T TV (which will really just be an improved and rebranded version of DTV Now) will allow any two screens to simultaneously stream the service. If you need more simultaneous streams, the charge will probably be an extra $5 per month per stream.
     
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    Streaming does nothing for the RV'er ...
    Cottage/Vacation home ... unless you have internet there (with high enough speeds)
     
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    Yes, that's true. Not sure what to say to that other than "You can't please 100% of the people 100% of the time." In the grand scheme of US consumers, those who watch cable TV channels in RVs and vacation cottages without internet access are what I would call "edge cases". No disrespect intended.
     
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    Parents travel in Motorhome, use a D* dish set up ...rarely ever have internet.
     
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    As fulltime RV'ers, we stream almost exclusively when we're in travel mode between destinations. Where we used to set up our portable dish daily even for one night stops, now we just stream for those short stops, setting up the dish only when we'll be parked for at least a few days or weeks. With unlimited data plans on both AT&T and Verizon plus a Max Amp RV cell signal amplifier/repeater, we haven't landed any place yet that we didn't have a streamable signal on one carrier or the other. I think we're slowly but surely getting closer to cutting the satellite TV cord and going to streaming only.
     
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    So your using strictly Cell service ?
     
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    We use strictly cell service in our motorhome since RV park WiFi is seldom worth using. Our upstate NY family cottage has Spectrum's 30/5 plan that we use to monitor conditions at the cottage and for streaming the H2 installed there for DishAnywhere. We're parked on our site at the cottage right now, but we're still using our AT&T and Verizon hotspots.
     
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