I just don't think fans should vote, they would all vote for their teams player who might not deserve it.
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Baseball Hall of Fame voting 2013
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I just don't think fans should vote, they would all vote for their teams player who might not deserve it.
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Agreed!
I really think Bonds and Clemens though would have been in the Hall regardless if they took anything or not.
Dale Murphy should have been voted in and I think he is not eligible anymore. Also I think Palmero just about fell off the list, he just got more than the 5% required to stay.
Thats the thing. Bonds and Clemens would have gotten in regardless of their last 3-5 years. I would want Rose in before Bonds, Clemens, Palmero, Sosa, etc. I would have loved it if Dale Murphy had been voted in but I understand why he is borderline. I hope he will be voted in by the Veterans Committee.
I'm sorry Rose doesn't deserve to be in the Hall because he gambled on baseball while he was a manager, That IMO is just as bad as what Bonds or the other steroid players did.
I said as a manager, he was still employed by mlb.
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Ty Cobb should of never been put in but he was and nothing can be done about it.
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No Jack Morris
A few points about this. I think its embarrassing that nobody goes into the Hall of Fame. That just doesnt make any sense. Then why have it, if theres a chance that nobody will go in? I would lower the percentage of getting in from 75 to 70 or even 60. I just dont understand why you have 1 maybe 2 players go in. To me, many more players deserve to go in and when you dont let them in there just a year closer from being off the ballot, which I dont think is fair either. When your not eligable anymore, what does that mean? What, your career didnt count? I just dont like it at all. Then dont put them on the ballot if theres a chance they wont be eligable.
I can understand why Bonds and Clemens dont go in. I actually read some articles about 5 or 6 yrs. ago about Clemens and to have the record he did and the mechanics he did for his age, its impossible for him to have it without taking steroids. As far as Bonds, I just dont like him. He doesnt make you want to root for him. He doesnt make you want to give him the benefit of the doubt. Do you remember when he broke Aaron's home run record? He was booed everywhere except San Fran.
I do think Morris should have gotten in and even though Im a Mets fan, Piazza should have gotten in. If your going to lump him in with steroid abuse, I dont think thats fair because then your saying that everybody in this era took steroids. Im not sure as far as Biggio if he should get in or not but next year Glavine and Maddux are eligable and whose to say they didnt take steroids?
Here's what should happen. Put Piazza, Glavine, Maddux in the Hall of Fame and if there is concrete evidence that they cheated, take them out of the Hall.
Again, his gambling has nothing to do with his performance as a player. The HOF is about player performance, not manager conduct.
I agree with SkiKing,
Rose definitely deserves to be in the Hall as a PLAYER.
You go in as a Player or a Manager or a Broadcaster...
People have FAILED to distinguish the difference for a long time now.
If you happen to have managed and played, you go in as either, not both, there's not a Player & Manager section to the Hall.
People have FAILED to distinguish the difference for a long time now.
If you happen to have managed and played, you go in as either, not both, there's not a Player & Manager section to the Hall.
Rose did bet on baseball as a player. Read the book Hustle . The Myth , Life , And lies of Pete Rose. Rose appears to have had Mob connections and starting betting as far back as the 1970's. Also John Dowd said he did bet when he was a player.
You believe everything you read ?
I think alot of these so called books and articles are put out by people that just don't like him ...
You believe everything you read ?
I think alot of these so called books and articles are put out by people that just don't like him ...
People believed the Canseco book, that is one I would of never thought was true.
You believe everything you read ?
I think alot of these so called books and articles are put out by people that just don't like him ...
No but the book is well researched. Pete Rose had zero credibility on what happened.
