Bring us EPIX!!!!!

Would you like to see DirecTv add EPIX HD to the HD Extra Pack

  • Yes

    Votes: 69 72.6%
  • No

    Votes: 18 18.9%
  • What is EPIX HD?

    Votes: 8 8.4%

  • Total voters
    95
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I've not paid for the HD Extra pack since its inception. For some reason, I'm always qualified for the free for 3 months special. I always cancel at the end of the "trial" and I'm always prompted to get it for free as soon as I turn the package off. A couple of times, I didn't even bother getting it for free because I know that nobody in my house watches any of those channels. Eventually, I get a call from the telemarketing team offering me the free package again. I almost believe that if the suite of EPIX channels were included, I would actually pay the price for the package. Maybe a deal could be done if they got that revenue and didn't regularly renew the package for free.
 
Yes put it in the HD Extra Pack especially if it has CC and subtitles which are not available for Sony Movie Channel rendering it useless to those with hearing problems!
 
NO! I want Epix as a seperate A La carte option.

I don't want it in the HD extra pack, because then our free and $5 pack will go way up, and everyone will be forced to pay more even if they don't want Epix!
 
There are four screens of EPiX. Three of them are available in HD. That's enough to make it a premium movie channel. And I think the reason DirecTV hasn't gone for it is with question of whether EPiX would draw subscriptions. And if Viacom could not get DirecTV to bite -- as it has also not been able to sign carriage deals with Comcast and so damn many cable operators -- how long can that programmer last?

I wanted, more than any possible additions, the HD of TV Land. And I'm aware that Nick Jr. and MTV2 are also available in high definition.

I'm not overjoyed by this.
 
I thought that DirecTV said that they were not adding Epix as per the following: DirecTV Will Pass On Epix - 2009-08-06 16:23:00 | Multichannel News

From http://www.multichannel.com/article/326722-DirecTV_Will_Pass_On_Epix.php:
[h=1]DirecTV Will Pass On Epix[/h] [h=2]Interim CEO Miller Says No Need For Another Movie Channel[/h] [h=3]Mike Farrell -- Multichannel News, 8/6/2009 12:23:00 PM[/h]

DirecTV interim CEO Larry Hunter said that the satellite giant would likely pass on carriage of the newest premium channel, Epix, when it launches later this year.
"That's another one that I don't think you'll be seeing us being interested in," Hunter said on a conference call with analysts to discuss second-quarter results.
Partially influencing the satellite giant's decision could be the recent decline in its customer take rates for premium movie channels. On the conference call, chief financial officer Patrick Doyle added that the satellite giant has been seeing an acceleration of customers who are "right-sizing" their programming packages, and many are dropping premium movie channels like HBO, Starz and Showtime. Doyle said that about 90% of DirecTV customers take at least one premium channel and expected that to decline further in the third quarter.
"We think there are enough of them out there already," Doyle said of premium movie channels. "We don't see the value of adding another movie channel."
Epix, a partnership between movie studios Paramount, Lions Gate and MGM, landed its first distribution deal - with Verizon Communications' FiOS TV - last week.
Comcast and Cablevision, earlier, indicated that they will pass on the service.
The channel, which today announced its first output deal with another studio, Samuel Goldywn Films, is expected to launch officially in October.
 
I agree! Its excellent on Dish. I, as well, watch it from time to time.
It would be a welcome addition to Direc tv.

The only thing about the Epix channels is that I wish they would rotate the films on the TV channels. Epix seems to have an expansive movie lineup on the site, but the channels often show the same movies. However, Epix is not the only one to do that...
 
I thought that DirecTV said that they were not adding Epix as per the following: DirecTV Will Pass On Epix - 2009-08-06 16:23:00 | Multichannel News

From http://www.multichannel.com/article/326722-DirecTV_Will_Pass_On_Epix.php:
DirecTV Will Pass On Epix

Interim CEO Miller Says No Need For Another Movie Channel

Mike Farrell -- Multichannel News, 8/6/2009 12:23:00 PM



DirecTV interim CEO Larry Hunter said that the satellite giant would likely pass on carriage of the newest premium channel, Epix, when it launches later this year.
"That's another one that I don't think you'll be seeing us being interested in," Hunter said on a conference call with analysts to discuss second-quarter results.
Partially influencing the satellite giant's decision could be the recent decline in its customer take rates for premium movie channels. On the conference call, chief financial officer Patrick Doyle added that the satellite giant has been seeing an acceleration of customers who are "right-sizing" their programming packages, and many are dropping premium movie channels like HBO, Starz and Showtime. Doyle said that about 90% of DirecTV customers take at least one premium channel and expected that to decline further in the third quarter.
"We think there are enough of them out there already," Doyle said of premium movie channels. "We don't see the value of adding another movie channel."
Epix, a partnership between movie studios Paramount, Lions Gate and MGM, landed its first distribution deal - with Verizon Communications' FiOS TV - last week.
Comcast and Cablevision, earlier, indicated that they will pass on the service.
The channel, which today announced its first output deal with another studio, Samuel Goldywn Films, is expected to launch officially in October.

But that is from 2009. Things change. And by the sounds of the deal DirecTv is paying for it anyway and has the option to make it available to us.
 
From http://news.yahoo.com/directv-viacom-fight-draw-channel-punch-215635933--finance.html:

[h=1]DirecTV, Viacom fight to draw in channel punch-out[/h]By RYAN NAKASHIMA | Associated Press – 19 hrs ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Viacom and DirecTV fought a bruising bout over fees to a draw Friday and agreed to a long-term deal that ended a 10-day channel blackout.


Their new deal restored MTV, Comedy Central, Nickelodeon and other channels to 20 million DirecTV customers and ensured those channels will be available to subscribers on computers and mobile devices in the coming months.
Fans on Twitter expressed relief.


According to terms shared by both sides on Friday, DirecTV Group Inc. will pay about 20 percent more to carry Viacom Inc. channels on satellite TV lineups. That works out to about $600 million in the first year of a seven-year deal. The companies agreed to annual single-digit percentage increases in subsequent years.
DirecTV was able to save itself about $500 million over the entire term by not taking the premium pay TV channel Epix. It said it also was able to send a message that it won't roll over every time a media company threatens to pull channels over fees.


"They realized we were not going to capitulate," said Derek Chang, DirecTV's executive vice president of content strategy.
Investors met the outcome with a ho-hum as the deal was largely in line with expectations.


Shares of both companies edged downward Friday in a declining market. Since the dispute resulted in a blackout the evening of July 10, Viacom shares are down 0.9 percent, closing Friday at $46.41, while DirecTV shares are down 0.7 percent, closing at $48.33. Over the same period, the Dow Jones industrial average rose 1.3 percent.


"I'm not going to engage on who was the winner and who was the loser," said Todd Juenger, an analyst with Bernstein Research. "What we've learned is the fair value of Viacom services, fully tested and vetted in a real marketplace negotiation."


By eking out a large fee increase, Viacom said DirecTV is now paying a rate that is more in line with that of other distributors.
DirecTV's Chang even acknowledged that it had been paying significantly less than competitors for Viacom channels because the deal that just expired had been locked in seven years ago.


Viacom had argued that its networks account for 20 percent of what DirecTV subscribers are watching but cost DirecTV just 5 percent of its overall programming expense. Under the new deal, the Viacom fees will come out to 6 percent.


"It was important to get fair value for our networks," Viacom spokesman Carl Folta said. "We are still one of the most efficient programmers in their bouquet."


By refusing to add Epix to its premium pay TV channel stable, DirecTV was able to save itself a big fixed cost over its entire subscriber base, as the flat fee would have been charged no matter how many subscribers choose to pay more for Epix, a movie channel that is half owned by Viacom.


Media companies typically try to sell rights to their channels as a package, so that fledgling channels are bundled with those already in high demand. Adding Epix to DirecTV would have been a big win for Viacom, as it's now carried by only a handful of distributors, including rival satellite TV provider Dish Network Corp. But that was seen as unlikely, partly because Epix movies are available to Netflix subscribers 90 days after debuting on TV and the channel might have been hard to sell to customers.


The damage from the blackout to both sides was real but not permanent.


DirecTV spokesman Darris Gringeri said the company lost subscribers because of the dispute, "but against our subscriber base, it was not a significant number."
Viacom lost out on 10 days' worth of fees from DirecTV — roughly $14 million — and took a short-term audience hit that will cost the company advertising revenue.


Both sides suffered brand damage — Viacom because it was tagged for being a root cause of rising monthly TV bills, and DirecTV for not giving subscribers what they paid for. Even Comedy Central's Jon Stewart slammed network parent Viacom for acting like China in pulling some shows from the Internet as part of the dispute, hurting people who weren't DirecTV subscribers.


But the fight was short enough to forget about and move on. Plenty of disputes have lasted just a heartbeat — like ABC's 15-minute blackout of the Oscars to Cablevision subscribers in March 2010. Others have dragged on for months.


"It was fortunate they were able to resolve it before the back and forth got any worse than it did," Barclays analyst Anthony DiClemente said.
DiClemente said the relatively quick resolution boded well for an end to AMC Networks Inc.'s continuing dispute with Dish, which has gone on since July 1.
 
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