I noticed that they are no longer listed as a premium movies or even as a regular channel like Encore is under the Platinum Hd pack either. I wonder if they are either going to be absorbed into the regular top 180 or if they are going to be listed as part of the Hbo premium group. Possibly to justify another rate increase on Hbo coming soon , or as a punishment for Hbo asking to much in contract negotiations. Dish likes to pay hardball you know. I seem to remember a thread from a current or former Dish employee who mentioned something about a contract negotiation with Hbo and Dish was going to cut them off or something. I guess we will know soon enough though.