Court Rules Copying DVD now Illegal.

[Scott Greczkowski]

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Recently the U.S. Copyright Office in response to a request to provide a copy exemption for consumers wanting to watch legally-owned DVDs on non-disc devices, has ruled it's illegal to bypass copy-protection in order to make digital copies for playback on hard drives, tablets, phones, and non-disc devices.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1436730/new-ruling-confirms-copying-dvds-is-illegal

What do you think about that?

I have been ripping all my DVD's and Blurays and storing them on a NAS so I can enjoy them anytime.

 

[king3pj]

Say this at AVSForum.

Recently the U.S. Copyright Office in response to a request to provide a copy exemption for consumers wanting to watch legally-owned DVDs on non-disc devices, has ruled it's illegal to bypass copy-protection in order to make digital copies for playback on hard drives, tablets, phones, and non-disc devices.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1436730/new-ruling-confirms-copying-dvds-is-illegal

What do you think about that?

I have been ripping all my DVD's and Blurays and storing them on a NAS so I can enjoy them anytime.

I think they need to leave their paying customers alone and stop treating them like criminals. How is this going to stop the real problem of piracy. Instead of going after people who are illegally getting movie torrents they are going after people who actually paid for the movie.

Regardless, I don't see much, if any change from this. People are going to continue ripping their movies and no one will be actively trying to stop them.

 

[navychop]

I'm beginning to think it isn't about crime but about squeezing customers for more.

 

[KE4EST]

Regardless, I don't see much, if any change from this. People are going to continue ripping their movies and no one will be actively trying to stop them.

I agree nobody is going to go house to house checking to see if you are doing it or not.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

No but I can see them putting a stop to software sales of software which breaks the encryption on DVD's and BluRays.

 

[navychop]

Driving it underground.

 

[bhelms]

I agree nobody is going to go house to house checking to see if you are doing it or not.

Ahhh...but with everyone being connected to the 'net 24/7, why do they need to come to your house ?!? I have to think that once your network is connected live anyone with the right skills can see everything stored on your network, no? And that could include anything you stored in the cloud. Your only protection might be to physically disconnect the storage device where you keep such "illegal" files...

 

[king3pj]

I'm beginning to think it isn't about crime but about squeezing customers for more.

It very well could be. Now they are expecting you to buy the Blu-ray and then buy it again from iTunes if you want to watch it with your iPad on a plane. No thanks. I sure won't be buying the same movie twice.

 

[whitewolf8214]

They will do anything to get a buck out of us and we need to fight this somehow

 

[dont24]

I don't remember the last time I bought a DVD or BluRay. Back when my kids were younger. No more.
Redbox or Blockbuster.

 

[king3pj]

Ahhh...but with everyone being connected to the 'net 24/7, why do they need to come to your house ?!? I have to think that once your network is connected live anyone with the right skills can see everything stored on your network, no? And that could include anything you stored in the cloud. Your only protection might be to physically disconnect the storage device where you keep such "illegal" files...

I think you are being a little paranoid. They aren't going to be scanning people's personal computers to see what is stored on them without reason. First, that has to be illegal. Second, this isn't a country like China that will stand for government internet censorship. The American people wouldn't stand by and allow the government to access its citizens personal computer files whenever they want. They would have to have cause to do something like that.

 

[shkarter1985]

I think they need to leave their paying customers alone and stop treating them like criminals. How is this going to stop the real problem of piracy. Instead of going after people who are illegally getting movie torrents they are going after people who actually paid for the movie.

Regardless, I don't see much, if any change from this. People are going to continue ripping their movies and no one will be actively trying to stop them.

Is this the USA? Come on folks. king3pj is right. Yes, I hate the MPAA.

 

[John Kotches]

I think you are being a little paranoid. They aren't going to be scanning people's personal computers to see what is stored on them without reason. First, that has to be illegal. Second, this isn't a country like China that will stand for government internet censorship. The American people wouldn't stand by and allow the government to access its citizens personal computer files whenever they want. They would have to have cause to do something like that.

The PATRIOT Act
Warrantless GPS Attachments to vehicles

Beyond that, it's probably best suited for Sonic Babble.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Beyond that, it's probably best suited for Sonic Babble.

What he said.

 

[king3pj]

The PATRIOT Act
Warrantless GPS Attachments to vehicles

Beyond that, it's probably best suited for Sonic Babble.

I'm not going to get political but doesn't that require suspicion of terrorism? I said they couldn't do it without cause, not that they couldn't do it. Having cause is different than having a warrant. Just like how police are able to search your car without a warrant if they have cause. We're talking about scanning people's private computers for DVD rips here. I highly doubt the US government would get away with that, or even try it in the first place. My main point was that I don't think you need to disconnect your media servers from the internet. The government won't be scanning them to bust you anytime soon.

 

[jayn_j]

I'm not going to get political but doesn't that require suspicion of terrorism? We're talking about scanning people's private computers for DVD rips here. I highly doubt the US government would get away with that, or even try it in the first place. My main point was that I don't think you need to disconnect your media servers from the internet. The government won't be scanning them to bust you anytime soon.

I seem to recall the RIAA going after kids in college dorms for NAPSTER music rips, and that those stood up in court. However, the issue may have been that dorms were not private property. Hasn't there also been remote searches of hard drives over kiddie porn?

 

[king3pj]

I seem to recall the RIAA going after kids in college dorms for NAPSTER music rips, and that those stood up in court. However, the issue may have been that dorms were not private property.

And they had proof of internet traffic from the ISPs. I'm not talking about downloading illegal movies from the internet. I'm talking about ripping a movie I already own to my own computer. The outside internet world wouldn't be involved in this process. They would have no way of knowing about this without hacking into my network and scanning my computer's files. That is different than downloading files from the outside world.

 

[televisionarchives]

I don't know what the Studios pay for macrovision to be put on disc but it continues to be a joke when it comes to copy protection . My advice to them is to put Cinavia on every disc. Nobody has figured that one out yet.

 

[JerseyMatt]

The PATRIOT Act
Warrantless GPS Attachments to vehicles

Beyond that, it's probably best suited for Sonic Babble.

The PATRIOT act is gradually being dismantled piece by piece as DHS gets sued for unconstitutional provisions.. Take the "sneak and peek" provision allowing the fbi to break in and search for probable cause for example.. Problem is until someone sues, there is no problem. And not just anyone can sue, it has to be someone who has been directly affected by the provision. So sneak and peek stood for a couple years until someone who knew their rights was wrongfully arrested and he took action.

Warrantless GPS attachments is one of those provisions. SCOTUS ruled 9-0 back in January that it is a 4th amendment violation.

You can bet your ass that there will be a suit on this one by software mfrs, and that the decision will ultimately be reversed because this violates fair use.

 

[king3pj]

Hasn't there also been remote searches of hard drives over kiddie porn?

This part was added on after my original response to you. I don't know if there has been remote searches of hard drives for this but again this is different. They would probably require a warrant for this and even if they don't they would have to have a reason to suspect someone of having something like that on their computer before they scan for it. They can't just arbitrarily scan everyone in the country's computers and look for illegal stuff to bust people on. They aren't just going to have free reign to check everyone in the country for ripped movies.