DISH Drops AMC Networks (AMC Back on DISH channel 131)

[Mojo Jojo]

channel 131 is no more. its gone

Odd since AMC and We are still on at 130 and 128 respectively. Try 393 for now for IFC.

 

[gpollock87]

Odd since AMC and We are still on at 130 and 128 respectively. Try 393 for now for IFC.

i saw its still at 393. maybe they are starting the removal process?

 

[empiretc]

downgraded from 250 to 120. the waiting game begins....

 

[gpollock87]

downgraded from 250 to 120. the waiting game begins....

I hate to say it but the wait may be a LONG time.

 

[Mojo Jojo]

Maybe they can work a deal out and put AMC in at120.

Maybe. It is in the Welcome Pack at $14.99/mo. (only SD) and in Dish Latino Dos at $44.99/mo. (both SD and HD).

 

[Mojo Jojo]

i saw its still at 393. maybe they are starting the removal process?

Maybe they can put that high quality replacement at 131, too.

Failed to see a high quality replacement at 389.

 

[gpollock87]

Maybe they can put that high quality replacement at 131, too.

Failed to see a high quality replacement at 389.

and you know what i am thinking.lol. but i don't see it happening.

 

[empiretc]

I hate to say it but the wait may be a LONG time.

unfortunately, that is probably the sad truth.

 

[gpollock87]

unfortunately, that is probably the sad truth.

yeah and the only thing i will really miss is the walking dead. but, I can't make dish keep the channels

 

[empiretc]

yeah and the only thing i will really miss is the walking dead. but, I can't make dish keep the channels

as upsetting as is is, there are 2 reasons to stay:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-forum/283954-if-dish-drops-amc-will-you-20.html#post2878375

but as soon as the NFLRedzone streaming subscription becomes available, things may change....

 

[gpollock87]

Dishes response to IFC being moved on fb is "Dish Network

IFC has been moved to channel 393 in order to streamline our programming line up"​

 

[mdavej]

So a few weeks ago, Dish started mirroring AMC/We/IFC on 391/392/393, which is adjacent to BB@Home channels. Is there a possibility they'll get moved to that rather than dropped completely? Another concern I have is that the 391 version of AMC is SD only, which sucks.

 

[Tampa8]

Dishes response to IFC being moved on fb is "Dish Network

IFC has been moved to channel 393 in order to streamline our programming line up"​

That answer means as much as a one from a non Dirt CSR. Nothing.

 

[Tampa8]

So a few weeks ago, Dish started mirroring AMC/We/IFC on 391/392/393, which is adjacent to BB@Home channels. Is there a possibility they'll get moved to that rather than dropped completely? Another concern I have is that the 391 version of AMC is SD only, which sucks.

Lol, maybe that's Dish's plan. Ban them to the Blockbuster package, with AMC being in SD.......

 

[Mojo Jojo]

Lol, maybe that's Dish's plan. Ban them to the Blockbuster package, with AMC being in SD.......

...or even worse...sell the AMC Networks a la carte for $3-$7/month.

 

[KAB]

I'm a child of the 50's. There about four of you you that keep going on and on, and reminds me of housewives on a telephone party line.

 

[HIFI]

I'm a child of the 50's. There about four of you you that keep going on and on, and reminds me of housewives on a telephone party line.

:haha

 

[The Fat Man]

Maybe they can put that high quality replacement at 131, too.

Failed to see a high quality replacement at 389.

I saw it, it's a skip to the next channel

 

[whatchel1]

:focus:

I think we're going to see the programmers (AMC, CBS, etc.) fight back and draft two different pricing schemes into future agreements. Oh, let's say $0.26 per subscribers if there is no MVPD manipulation of the advertising stream, and $2.26 per subscriber if something like the autohop feature is enabled. Regardless, the FCC needs to step-up-to-the-plate in order to level the playing field and protect consumer's interests in the rapidly changing video landscape:

Five Needed Changes:

1. Any broadcaster/cablecaster who accepts advertising dollars must provide their programming feeds free-of-charge to licensed MVPDs (regional broadcast and sports coverage rules still apply). ABC, CBS, FOX and NBC are free to all (just like with an antenna) but so too are AMC, TNT, USA, etc. These cable favorites can charge MVPDs for their programming...they just need to get rid of all the commericials and infomercials. This model is fair for programmers sitting on all sides of the table. Obviously, MVPDs are not permitted to alter the datastreams being delivered to their customers.

2. Subscription based programming channels (i.e., those such as HBO and Showtime who do not accept advertising dollars) must be offered "a la carte" to subcribers. I DO NOT buy the, "oh, this is too hard to implement" bullcrap being spewed by the programmers and MVPDs. We live in a digital economy...we pay out bills and doing our banking online...and just about everyone has upgraded to an all digital services architecture - it's not that freaking difficult. If the cable companies can control my set-top-boxes and Cablecard devices (Tivo's, etc.) then they can certainly setup a menu/billing system in which customers can selected the programming they wish to receive.

3. All customers pay the same price for programming based on supply and demand (e.g., ESPN should be the same price at Comcast, DirecTV, FiOS, etc.) If people want to pay $10 per month for ESPN...well, so be it. However, if consumers are only willing to pay $3,00 per month for [commercial-free] ESPN...well, then that's the going rate. And if you don't view sports you won't have to pay to watch. Viola!

4. States taxing satellite programming and equipment needs to stop! DBS providers lease this bandwidth (spend billions) from the federal government and they use no public rights of way. Stop these illegal taxes!

5. Satellite VOD and other programming delivered over the Internet needs to be taxed. Let's face it...folks are subscribing to a Pay TV service and content is being delivered via IPTV. If AT&T U-Verse has to obtain a cable TV franchise and subscribers pay franchise fees and other federal and local taxes (as the courts have ruled) then so too should DirecTV and Dish Network. Moreover, subscription-based IPTV services like Hulu, Nexflix, etc. need to pay franchise fees and taxes.

Obviously, people should be able to subscribe to bundled services since these options offer the best band-for-the-buck for many. And of course the programmers and MVPDs are free to offer a variety of packages and bundles in order to meet consumer demand...just as long as they are offered for the same price on D* as they are on E* as they are on Comcast. Also, if you haven't noticed...there are no programming disputes and there are no channels "getting yanked" because all channels are offered to all MVPDs and consumers determine the going rates. Viola! Will some channels completey disappear? Sure! But good programming will survive...along with a whole lot of rotten programming too. Anyway, this is my 15-minute lunchtime overview of how to create a fair marketplace. Could I be wrong? Asolutely! But it can't be any worse than the path I see us heading down nowadays.

Bottom line:

- Consumers set the market price for programming.
- Everyone pays the same price whether they're with E*, D*, Comcast or streaming over the net.
- All programmers have a level playing field in which to operate.
- All video (including IPTV) is fairly taxed.
- MVPDs will earn money on being more efficient in their deliver systems and offering innovative add-on services (whole home DVR, PPV, pocketdish, mobile service integration, etc.)

None of these will every happen.

 

[riffjim4069]

None of these will every happen.

What would you propose to "fix" a system that is obviously broken?