I have 2 friends that signed up for Dish service only to end up with no satisfaction with installers and no service. I referred 2 friends to Dish (one friend is even switching from Directv) only to have lazy installers screw up attempts to complete a successful install. One friend has had a technician out 3 times only to be told that he cannot get a signal. The friend has done all required (remove trees, etc.) to get this install to work. My friend says that the 2nd installer was dumber than the first two. The third tech bolted the dish on top of his house (with a very clear line-of-sight to the satellites) but failed to use a level or any other tool for positioning. When the tech did not get a signal the first attempt, the tech just gave up. My friend friend really wants Dish Network because of the local channels. I may have to step in and help him. My second friend said that his installer wanted to run wire loosely over his roof and was bitching about doing any real work at all. My second friend told the tech to go home and stop wasting his time. So, does Dish not pay the installers enough? or are there just that many lazy, stupid installers in my area in Central Virginia?