Dish Network CEO Hints At Hard Line In Viacom Renewal Talks, Calls Extension A “Positive”

[MikeD-C05]

Ok, they are going to go bankrupt. I will be selling my Hopper 3 and Joey's and my Dish stock tomorrow.

BTW, here is a snippet about the AWS-4 spectrum from 10/2015.

"Dish is required to build out 40 percent of its coverage on its AWS-4 licenses by 2017 and at least 70 percent by 2021. If Dish fails to meet the initial buildout requirements, the penalty is a one-year acceleration of the second (and final) buildout date. "Therefore, while there is a shot clock in place, the time table still affords Dish a reasonable amount of time to execute a plan to sell or lease the spectrum," the analysts said."[/I]

So a year from now , if they don't have the 40% build out of coverage and service , they immediately are accelerated to a 2020 deadline. So that gives them a 4 year window to finally get at least 70 % build out of service and coverage. Ok , Lets see if he can accomplish the minimum deadline by next year. I am betting that he won't make the minimum deadline. Oh, I never said the company was going bankrupt. Don't sell you hopper yet ,unless you are planning on leaving DISH.

 

[dishcomm]

Except for the millions of people who don't have fast, unlimited internet.

Well, if one wants high speed internet, they should seek other options.

 

[dishcomm]

Burnie Madoff was a millionaire too.
Having lots of money doesn't automatically make you an Honest business man.
And Charle had some really huge lawsuits that cost over a Billion dollars.
Just as much as Directv/Att paid for ST exclusive rights for its 26 million customers .

So IMO that money could have been put to good use within Dish Network.
Charlie wouldn't be so heavy on the negotiations with networks and trying to scrape every extra penny he can any way he can from his Remaining 13.2 Million satellite TV subscribers.

Because those 600,000 Sling Tv customers are certainly not the ones keeping the lights on with the pathetic $20 a month bill.

That's what I think is so hilarious about you guys sticking up for Charlie claims on how he's weeding out the bad ,unprofitable customer, but yet he's the guy with welfare bottom of the barrel Basepackages like Sling tv, and the Welcome pack.

Those packages aren't paying for crap.
I pay $33 alone in receiver fees under a price lock.
Add another $17 to that in 16 months maybe more when my price lock is up
My fees alone would be 5 Sling Tv customers.

Charlie blows a lot of smoke, he's a gambler, and there is nothing wrong with that, but they always have an excuse when your numbers look low to the public eye, and the best excuse he could come up with was , "I'M WEEDING OUT THE UNPROFITABLE CUSTOMER"
And some of yous actually bought it!
Charlie wants $100, $150,$200 a month customer, even if he pays his bill 30 days late because that's what's keeping the lights on.
Not $20 paid in full on time.

If some of yous think he doesn't want his ARPU to be over $100 a month, well you guys are crazy then.








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Tell us how you really feel!!!!

 

[JSheridan]

Well, if one wants high speed internet, they should seek other options.

What, like moving? That would be a little too extreme for most. I've been living here since before there was 'the internet' and I have no intention of moving just to get faster, unlimited internet.

 

[Troch77]

Tell us how you really feel!!!!

Ha Ha Ha .
I'm good. Lol.

I had a good day today with dish.
So I'm happy.

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[dishcomm]

Ok , name one merger or partnership that has worked out with CHarlie and DISH?

Tivo? No: lawsuit for years over DISH stealing Tivos technology that resulted in a big pay out by DISH.

Voom ? No: NO more voom hd channels and more lawsuits .

Microsoft and the original Web tv /dishplayer 7100/7200 model ? GOD NO! More lawsuits and ultimate brick of the receiver that made the internet part not work any longer.

Blockbuster ? Bought in a fire sale , now gone and no longer even mentioned anywhere on DISH website or even used to promote their Vod or pay per view movies.

Name anyone partnership that has resulted in a fruitful deal with anyone who has partnered with DISH and old Charlie. As for selling the bandwith , he has till next year to do just that or use it with a wireless carrier or start his own wireless company or he loses it back to the government. I see him selling it since he can't partner with any cell phone companies. So my original statement stands. No one wants to work with him because of his long history in the industry of not getting along with others and him wanting to be the big boss in any partnership. Working and playing well with others is something you learn in kindergarten and elementary school. It doesn't take billions to be taught that one lesson ,as evidenced by his failure to secure a cell phone wireless carrier partnership even with T-mobile, who wants a deal.

IN my experience as a tech I can tell you that webtv receiver was a boat anchor. And a HUGE PITA. When their 7100/7200 failed, it was for some then end of the world. Furthermore, Dish was no longer replacing them When the customer was informed of this, the reaction could be from disappointment to anger. And guess who was on the receiving end?..Right.
Voom was pardon the rhyme, doomed the moment Dish bought the bird from which that programming was TX'd.....VOOM programming was aimed at fringe audiences and simply not interesting enough for mass audiences. So Dish dumped it.
That was inevitable and I believe Dish was prepared for and anticipated a bit of a financial hit for dumping the channels. No big deal
In big business, lawsuits are a part of the process.

 

[KAB]

Ha Ha Ha .
I'm good. Lol.

I had a good day today with dish.
So I'm happy.

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Whew!! We can all sleep well tonight!

 

[dishcomm]

There was more to that story on those slots. Try reading the history of the deal and how News corp deal came undone and the various lawsuits resulted. Proves my point again. His reputation precedes him. Read under subscriber growth in 1997 sub heading for the whole story.

www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/echostar-communications-corporation-history/

Do you think playing nice is a way to succeed in business?
Ergen knows exactly what he doing. The guy started Dish in his garage. He now has 13 million customers. Most of whom who are at worst marginally satisfied with the products.
This is not an argument. I am merely stating the facts

 

[Tampa8]

Yes I know about the add ons.

Again though the value goes out the window when you start with the add ons.

Soon your up over $50 a month, you might as well subscribe to satellite TV.

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Welcome to the world of A La Carte, and linear online programming.

 

[Troch77]

Welcome to the world of A La Carte, and linear online programming.

Yuck, I just put up the 1000 + so I could get Euronews, and Willow Cricket, Because I got tired of trying to stream through the Internet.

So yeah I'll never go Sling TV.

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[KAB]

Welcome to the world of A La Carte,

That theory, and it's followers were always misguided from the start. What cost 1 cent, in a package, now costs 1 dollars by itself. You still want it....?

 

[MikeD-C05]

Do you think playing nice is a way to succeed in business?
Ergen knows exactly what he doing. The guy started Dish in his garage. He now has 13 million customers. Most of whom who are at worst marginally satisfied with the products.
This is not an argument. I am merely stating the facts

I think you missed my point in posting that. I said originally that I don't think that Charlie will get to partner with a cell phone carrier ,because of his reputation of not playing well and getting along with others precedes him. Most companies won't merge due to his history. T mobile wanted to do business ,but nothing has happened yet. AS for the way he has conducted himself in business, he is really no worse or better than others,but as I pointed out in saying his reputation precedes him, you carry that same rep with you on the way up the ladder of business , & it is also the one you carry with you on the way back down it too. Business ethics was something I took in college and I can tell you that some of what Charlie was accused of doing is a direct violation of those ethics. The stealing of the Tivo software comes to mind. But he had to pay for it eventually. I am not arguing either , just stating the facts.